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Childminders Club: How late until call parents?

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HellyBelly · 22/02/2006 16:47

New mindee started today and dad is currently 15 mins late. It may just be traffic or he may be lost as not been here before but how late would you leave it until you call to check?

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alibubbles · 24/02/2006 15:28

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ThePrisoner · 24/02/2006 18:51

I'm in Oxfordshire, but the snow wasn't confined to just here (was definitely also in all the attached counties - my parents are from all over!) It was January 2004, and started at around 4.00pm. Some parents took 2 hours to cover a normal, local 20 minute drive so several abandoned their cars and walked.

I think I did charge my normal hourly rates, but only because all the parents expected me too. They were just grateful that I kept them and made them dinner - the children thought the whole thing was brilliant, and we have the photos to prove it.

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Tan1959 · 24/02/2006 19:24

I remember this day well as I had just left work (wasn't childminding then) at 4pm - the snow had just started, I was travelling from Broxbourne to New Southgate by train and 2 buses. I remember well that when I arrived in Enfield the snow was about 2 inches thick; I had high heeled boots on (not the most sensible foot attire to be worn in thick snow!) but I didn't know we would have snow storm, I wasn't dressed particularly well for arctic weather either (am I exagerating here?) - I finally arrived at Oakwood (for those of you who know this area) and was told to alight the bus as it could go no further - I finally got home at 10pm - walked for what seemed like hours. It was horrendous trying to walk in my bloomin high heels in these conditions [smille}.

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ThePrisoner · 24/02/2006 19:30

I had distressed parents ringing from their cars which were sliding all over the road, even though they weren't actually driving. I had visions of all the mindees spending the night (oooh, would have contravened my registration!!)

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lunavix · 24/02/2006 21:37

lol

I'm writing a 'newsletter' soon for the parents, and I'm putting on it that I'm enforcing late fees. I'm putting first instance in a month will be considered, all subsequent instances will be charged for (£5 per 15 min as per contract) and for repeat offenders a contract review can be arranged to change daily hours!

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MoonLady · 26/02/2006 00:17

How do you cope when parents just want to chat and hang about at picking up time, not about kids and specific info we need to share but general, very amiable chat? All I want to do is tidy up, get dinner on, have a cup of tea and read the paper. Am I a grouch or is this a common thing? When my kids were being minded I was happy to know they were ok then to get home asap!

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ThePrisoner · 26/02/2006 01:22

If I am really busy with mindees, I tend to get on and do whatever I need to do anyway. I sometimes help the "departing mindee" to put shoes and coat on, get their bag ready etc., so that it is pretty obvious that it is time to leave.

I had a few problems in the past with one set of parents outstaying their welcome big time (taking root in the lounge), so now have something written in my policies which is words to the effect of "I like to have a chat with parents about blah blah blah, but there will be times when I'm busy, so please go home promptly" (but it really isn't as rude as that!!)

With any new parents now, I tend to say even before they start, that I welcome the opportunity to chat, but there are times when it's just not possible and hope that they'll recognise those times. It's worked pretty well so far.

Failing that, go upstairs and put your pyjamas on. They'll soon get the hint.

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MoonLady · 26/02/2006 01:49

As I'm older than this particular mum I think she sees me as poor old dab who has no life outside childminding, from comments she makes!I find that really amusing cos like all of us, there aren't enough hours in the day to cram everything in, Which is why I'm here when I should be sleeping! Bought Touche Eclat today tho, (birthday prezzie) so will dazzle with my loveliness!
Sorry gone off subject!

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ThePrisoner · 26/02/2006 02:01

I'm older than all the mummies and daddies I mind for. In fact, for some of them, I'm even old enough to be their mummy.

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lunavix · 26/02/2006 10:40

Oh I'm younger than most of my parents... so they definately pity me. There's one who's my age, who goes out at night all the time, then the rest are average 30s parents.

The one who's my age always says things like 'what you doing this weekend' (sleeping, cleaning, food shopping?) or 'dyou want to go out clubbing' (No thank you!)

The other ones I think do marvel that I'm happily married with a toddler and baby on the way at my age... I know that everyone at Brownies does (I'm an assistant guider).

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ThePrisoner · 26/02/2006 14:48

Am certainly not sure that I should be divulging this information ... but one of my dds is older than one of my mummies!!

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Tan1959 · 26/02/2006 16:34

I too am older than all my parents - just by a few years though for two of them, had to get that in !

I could write a book on my awful experience with one of my mums doing just this. She will be leaving soon & I really will be sad to see her little one leave but if her departure from my services was not iminent, I would have seriously considered ending our Contract otherwise I may have ended up being very, very rude; there have been lots of reasons why I have perservered with child, severe language difficulty when started here, major eating probs just to name a few but mostly because he has the sweetest nature & is lovely. I'll give two examples and try not to bore you with it - but have felt the need to get off my chest of late!

Arrives to collect child at 5.30, last child departs 6pm - it's 6.45, she is still here - in the meantime, I am rushing from one room to the other washing up, tidying toys away etc, all this time she is following me, yes literally on my heels, chatting, I am only responding by saying Mmmmmm & not taking part in this conversation (I am not interested or listening!) ok that does sound harsh but if someone is so ignorant that they just cannot grasp the fact that this is 'MY TIME' then harsh is what I have to be - in the end I turned the hoover on, started to hoover & guess what, she plonked herself on sofa, put feet up so I could hoover underneath - when I had finished, I just asked her to leave as I was going upstairs to have shower - she actually looked quite shocked [dismay].

I thought after the above some time ago, I had developed strategies to get her to leave (but without being rude) but she arrived 30 mins early on Friday at dinner time, children sitting very nicely eating their dinner at their little table, (14 month old, 3 year old) he is eating cod for first time, actually succeeding in getting him to eat food on this day; I sitting with them with 4 month old on my lap - well the moment she comes in, said child jumps up, understandably excited to see mummy but rather than give him cuddles then encourage to sit back at table she starts chatting to me about all sorts - I just asked her whether she would like to ask said child to sit back at table to finish dinner - child was not responding, she started bouncing him on her lap, tipping him upside down etc he is squeeling with delight very loudly, 14 month old thinks, oh its playtime Grrrrr - it's now 5.30 I told said child that dinner time was over now (he still had not eaten meal) mum quickly sat him at table, I told her I was going in playroom with the other two and for her to let me know when they are ready to leave - then I heard screaming and crying from said child, rushed out to see what had happend, he has fallen off chair and cut his lip - my first concern is whether said child is ok but do you know what else I thought - 'oh here we go another bloody half an hour' yep that is the extent of stress that I feel when this mummy arrives. The other two parents arrived when she is still here, she starts chatting to them while I am trying to fill them in on our day individually. They make a speedy exit.

Even though I have spoken to her & explained that I have three parents to fill in about their childs day, also explained about appropriate content of conversation! she just does not appear to understand that 15 mins is enough.

What else can I now do apart from say I would like you to leave within 15 mins, whether said child having major tantrums or not.

Phew, I feel better already!

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nzshar · 26/02/2006 16:49

omg Tan1959. From what you have just said it dosent look like anything but "you must leave now!!" will work with this woman. I wouuld be so with her myself.

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ThePrisoner · 26/02/2006 23:42

Tan - a childminder I know had exactly the same problem as you. She told parents that she had decided that she would be issuing bills up to the time the parents actually left her house. It was to discourage one particular parent who outstayed her welcome big time. Funnily enough, from that moment on, the parent arrived a few minutes early, had a quick chat, and promptly left!!!!

(When I had this "outstaying your welcome" problem myself, I told the parents this particular story. They thought it was hilarious ... and continued to sit on the sofa ...)

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MoonLady · 27/02/2006 09:32

At one point I actually put on make up, dressed up and had my coat ready, said I was going straight out(when all I wanted to do was get in bath!). Had to get in car and drive around to get her out of house!! Friends say just tell her straight but it's so hard. Like the idea of charging, will use that, tho would pay her a tenner to go!!

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