Orgasmic Birth

[GreenMonkies]

It doesn't have to be screaming agony, honest!!!!

yes, I've read about it. There was a thread on here a while back, started by someone who (I think) it happened to.- I might be remembering wrong.

I DO remember that it turned ugly. people have VERY strong opinions on it, it transpires

I was watching about this on Lorraine the other morning, put me right off my weetabix.

bout as far from orgasmic as possible in all 3 of mine tbh

unless orgasms are supposed to be breathtakingly painful and feel like your fango is being turned inside out and torn to shreds? maybe that's where i've been going wrong then........

My first was like that PinkTulips, in hospital, stirrups, ventouse, episiotomy, horrid!

My second was a lovely calm, painless birth in my livingroom. I wouldn't say I had an orgasm (I don't normally moo like a cow in the throes of passion!!) but it was a glorious, positive experience, which I would gladly repeat.

I posted the link to encourage any first time birthers that it doesn't have to be a horrificly painful experience, and can actually be enjoyable, even if it is hard work.

wow.... not sure what i think about that, sort of blurs boundarues between sexuality and the act of childbirth; not sure i am comfortable with this, maybe being a bit old fashioned??? however laugh at the prospect of screaming in organism with my mother in the room... or cringe.

don't get me worng, i loved my births (well mostly, would have been better without interfering mws!)... but no matter how zoned out i am or relaxed i still find contractions and crowning bloody painful

it's quite a euphoric pain in some ways but definitely not pleasurable in an orgasmic sense..... thankfully i've never needed a huge poo during sex

it's amazing to me that these women's bodies can so effectively mask the pain of a baby being pushed out... i wonder why it only happens for some women. modern medcine can't be to blame as childbirth has been painful and frightening since earliest records of mankind.

Tis a v interesting question. My personal theory is that childbirth has been mismanaged for a long time, there are some very odd customs surrounding pregnancy and childbirth in a lot of societies. The fear of death (maternal or infant) has probably got lot to do with it (the fear-tension-pain cycle) but many deaths were avoidable and caused by interferance or poor hygeine.

I honestly don't think my body masked the pain of DD2 emerging, I really didn't feel any pain. A sort of stinging burning as she crowned, yes, but my actual contractions were not painful in themselves, if this makes any sense? I was completely calm and utterly confident in my ability to do it, and I think this came from being extremely well read on the process and how it is designed to work if allowed to progress naturally instead of putting women on thier backs and trying to tell them when to push or pumping them with extra hormones to make thier contractions "more effective". (my induced contractions whilst I lay in stirrups were the most excrutiating things I have ever experienced)

see that's the point at which i have issues with all this..... i was well read, gave birth in good positions, was mobile during labour, was very relaxed and calm, self meditated to zone out, was confidant in my body, stayed home as long as possible, didn't use any meds or g&a, was enjoying the experiance and looking forwards to the end result.

it still effing hurt though

contractions for me are a white hot heat rushing through my pelvis and hips and the sensation of my hips being hauled apart from each other. then at the end the pressure of the babies head is quite unconfortable and it's a ripping pain as i crown.

i'm not denying your experiance... i just dispute that anyone who 'prepares' properly can share it. i was well prepared and confidant and had a very differant experiance of the sensation of childbirth.

Well, in that case either I've got a bucket-fanjo or you're a big nancy!!

Or perhaps it's just different for everyone!

I think the most telling thing about this subject is how angry and upset women get when it's raised.

I've had three very, very painful births (though in a way I did enjoy pushing out my last baby). I was very anxious in labour though, and also had very large babies, so maybe those two things didn't help.

I think some people are able to have painless and enjoyable births and I think that's wonderful.I would be thrilled for someone who had an orgasmic birth - there is nothing unnatural or weird about it - birth is part of a sexual continuum.

seeing as 8lb10oz ds1 came out back to front with his arm over his face i'd suggest i poosibly have a bucket fanjo and am a complete nancy

Bucket fanjo?

DS1 was a whisker off 11lbs. No stitches.

but this is the part i don't get - we're told orgasms are for directing sperm up into the cervix - surely this kind of motion would actually work against birth rather than with it i.e. pulling the baby the wrong way?

8lb 10? Just under 11lb? no wonder they hurt!!!

DD1 (the horrid painful hospital birth) was 6lb 13 and DD2 (the easy, painless homebirth) was 7lb 13!!!!

ahhhhh, you see... i think this may prove to be the key.

my least painful birth by a long shot was dd's and she was 7lbs4oz.... with her i had painful contractions but they didn't seem too bad really and i remember being facinated by the fact that when i was pushing i felt no pain just the urge to push and some stinging from the crowning.

ds1 and 2 however even though i was calmer and they were far nicer births were alot more intense contractions and more pain during the pushing bit.

actually, that's the other reason i hate the 'if your calm and prepared it won't hurt' theory. with dd her heart rate had dropped to the point of non existance and there had been blood in her waters. it was made clare she would die if i didn't get her out asap... yet once i started pushing the contractions disappeared and i only felt the urge to push

yet the ds' births were far calmer and nicer but hurt far more.

sorry, feeding ds2 and forgot to read through before posting 'they're' and 'clear' obviously!

should have pointed out... dd was my first!

That woman on Lorraine annoyed me - the way she said 'contractions even used to be called labour pains' with an air of disbelief and astonishment. Well yes, because they're bloody painful you mad woman.

I find it all very interesting.

I feel i know my body so much better now (after 2 dcs) and really think i will cope so much better in labour next time.
I can't see that i would actually orgasm though.

Part of it, IMO, is their breathing, almost hyperventilating, i don't mean huffing and puffing, but deep regular breathing that allows high blood oxygenation, which can make you feel light-headed.
what do any of you think?

Also i the 'well it's touching the same areas that cause orgasm just in a different direction' doesn't really wash with me as don't most women orgasm more from clitoral stimulation rather than vaginal wall stimulation? or am i wrong here?

I don't like to say that preparation is the key, because that's almost 'blaming' those who had a tough time for not studying hard enough beforehand. but...if you lived in a culture where you witnessed calm, non-screamy births from an early age then maybe you would approach it more calmly yourself?
how do we witness childbirth before we do it?
Eastenders screaming! (well for 5 mins anyway before baby pops out no probs, lol)

Anyway, i'm aiming for an orgasm next time

OK i'll settle for mildly pleasurable feelings

"OK i'll settle for mildly pleasurable feelings"

Or just a low level, or lack of, pain!!

Yes a low level of pain would be ok too.

though i've not been a screamer or very noisy so far so doubt i will change there.

will have to find a link for a YouTube birth when the woman merely does a quiet grunt and baby 'slips' out

will search and be back...

Found it! (after being distracted of course by other birth videos!)

long but worth it for the ending