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large baby-CS?

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sanita · 22/12/2008 23:11

If it looks like i will be having large baby, do i get automatically offered CS or docs still will be pushing to deliver it naturally? What is considered to be large baby? Any comments, ladies? Thanks

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DECKmuppetWITHBOUGHSOFHOLLY · 31/12/2008 17:28

that may be the case but in my authority babies are not considered 'large' in official terms that would effect a future birth until they are 4.5kgs.

DECKmuppetWITHBOUGHSOFHOLLY · 31/12/2008 17:32

from babycentre

''How large is "large"?
Babies weighing more than 9 pounds and 15 ounces (4,500 grams) are considered much larger than average. (Average newborn weight is 7 pounds and 8 ounces.) It's very difficult to determine whether a baby is truly macrosomic (literally "of large body") while she's still in the womb ? only a post-birth weigh-in confirms it. But your healthcare provider may suspect macrosomia if you're measuring large for dates. An ultrasound can provide a more accurate idea of how big your baby really is. About 5 to 10 percent of babies are considered macrosomic.''

CoteDAzur · 31/12/2008 17:42

Your "authority" is BabyCentre? Sorry but

As I said, look up the word "macrosomia".

Macrosomia = big baby = over 4 kgs

Whoever your "health authority" is, she might have a personal definition for a big baby. It is not the global norm.

DECKmuppetWITHBOUGHSOFHOLLY · 31/12/2008 17:44

no my authority is the local health authority. I am 12 weeks with no 3 and have had my booking app and discussed this very subject but then you'll probably say my midwife has got it worng...

DECKmuppetWITHBOUGHSOFHOLLY · 31/12/2008 17:45

Either way, I stand by my point that a big baby that is 4.5kgs is only considered big enough to alter the course of future births. Not actually arguing the defintion of a big baby bay iyswim.

CoteDAzur · 31/12/2008 17:52

Give it up, already

The entire medical profession has defined big baby ("Macrosomia") as 4 kgs. That is the most common, globally recognized definition. What are you trying to prove? That your midwife can say no wrong?

Unbelievable, how absolutely everything turns into a pissing match on MN

DECKmuppetWITHBOUGHSOFHOLLY · 31/12/2008 17:56

I was just trying to make the point that if you have had a baby that weighs 4.5kgs or more then you are then chatted to about having future big babioes and this is then considered in how you will next give birth. I am not arguing your defintion of a big baby. Fine the range of macro-whatever is from 8lb something or other to 9lb 15 but it only alters future births if they are 9lb 15 or more.

It wasn't turning into a bunfight as we are looking at different points.

I am still smiling

bekkaboo · 31/12/2008 18:02

Sanita sounds like MW has really worried you, try and stay calm, as with all of us noone knows what will happen. I had EMCS with DS, I needed one, recovery was fine, Both mum and baby were well.

Im sure everything will be fine but always preping yourself for what might me, ie making sure someone to have other LO's and plenty of clothes on hand for hospital.

If MW feels it is a large baby, would she refer to specialist for advice maybe?

PS sorry to ran, but my DS was apparently very large! he weighed 6lbs 14oz!!

pistachio · 31/12/2008 18:21

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littleboyblue · 31/12/2008 18:29

Anything over 9lbs 9oz is considered to be a big baby. Ds was 9lbs 10oz and was delivered by forceps but that was more about his position than his size I think. I'm currently 34 wks with ds2 and have been told to expect over 10lbs - we have scan on monday to check, but like everyone else says, these things are quite deceiving. My consultant told me it would have to be a very big baby for them to consider CS.
Goodluck with it all.
Also, it was me that requested them to keep an eye on the size, they weren't concerned even after ds was 'big'.
I've been quite worried about giving birth to a bigger baby but have been told it is alot easier to deliver a big baby as you have more to work with.

dinny · 31/12/2008 18:40

so if a previous baby was 9.3lb, is that grounds to ask for a section? ie. is it heavy enough?

dinny · 31/12/2008 18:41

LBB, it's hardly easier to deliver a big baby, what a load of rubbish (speaking from personal experience and ds's shoulders getting stuck. dd (6.7lb) was a walk in the park in comparison!)

kayzr · 31/12/2008 18:44

I have to agree with Dinny I'm afraid. Its not easier to have a big baby. It wasn't too much harder than DS1 who was 7lb 2oz but DS2's shoulders nearly got stuck.

littleboyblue · 31/12/2008 18:45

I think your tone there is a bit rude tbh dinny I said I'd been told not that I think, and this has come from sources who have had big and small also.
I didn't ay that in every case a large baby is going to be easier to deliver did I?
Don't think there's anything wrong with trying to offer a bit of reassurance to someone who is having similar fears to myself than tell complete horror stories

dinny · 31/12/2008 19:06

I am saying that IME it is rubbish that it's easier to deliver a large baby than a small one

feel free to contradict me

CoteDAzur · 31/12/2008 19:12

dinny - Having a previous big baby puts you at risk of having another big baby this time but doesn't automatically get you a c-section.

My doctor thinks genetics is a small part of what makes big babies, and that it is mostly down to what you eat - minimise sugars and carbohydrates during pregnancy, he says. No pigging out on ice cream, like I did when pregnant with DD, for example

snuffyp · 31/12/2008 19:15

my nephew was 10lb 2 came out on his own very quickly and with no pain relief bless my sister!!!

rolereversal · 01/01/2009 12:08

think that does have something to do with it cotedazur!! my particular weakness was bacon butties and tea with 3 sugars!! am still convinced ds3 will be a plumber when he grows up

childrenchildreneverywhere · 01/01/2009 15:25

You shouldn't automatically be offered a section unless you have any other indicators that it would be a problem for you or your baby to have a vaginal delivery.

It is a bit of a myth that "big baby" = "difficult birth" - in many cases quite the opposite is true and plenty of women have had tough times with 6lbers.

Have a look at www.bigbaby.org.uk - lots of information/studies/birth stories about "large babies".

sanita · 02/01/2009 13:48

thank you everyone for useful tips and advice!

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ticklytum · 20/01/2009 11:01

my first was 9.04lbs my second 9.14lbs born by section and pregnant with third who was estimated 3.02lbs at 28 weeks now 32+ cant move or drive anyone else feel same or am a alien? they doing another growth scan tomorrow.

didnt feel really uncomfortable till last three to four weeks with last two and i went over one and two weeks with secnd.

Anyone with similar exp as my midwife asked me whether or not i was suppossed to be seeing her last week and not the hospital?

CoteDAzur · 20/01/2009 11:04

How much weight did you put on with each pregnancy, if you don't mind me asking?

Just trying to see if doctor is right in saying this baby will be a "normal size" if I eat sensibly. (DD was 4 kg 10 g)

Belgianchocolates · 20/01/2009 11:21

I always feel drs scare women with warnings of big babies. I always feel a bit dubious because

  1. Estimating fetal weight is not an exact science. I remember a recent del where both parents were shocked the baby was 'only' 7lbs something as they'd been told it'd be a big one
  2. big babies do not necessarily mean difficult labours. I've seen 11 pounders shoot out with no stitches and seen women struggle with teeny weeny 6 pounders. So especially with a first dd I'd try for a vaginal delivery.
CoteDAzur · 20/01/2009 11:24

I guess it depends on the scan equipment & skill of the ultrasound specialist.

Ours said DD was going to be 4 kgs. She was born 4 kg 10 gr - almost exactly as predicted.

ticklytum · 20/01/2009 11:28

to behonest i havent put that much on stll 16 legs and hips slightly smaller on top i pretty the same as i was 6 years ago. just my stomach huge due raised liq level and big baby. as you can see above ticklytum.cant move ordrive even now im 32+. wondering if anyone else feel the same? or something wrong with me? i eat sensibly lots of fruit and smaller meals more often mixture of everything