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First doula job and I feel like I didn't do the right thing (long, sorry)

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FailedDoula · 05/10/2008 17:25

I have recently had my first 'job' since training as a doula, for a very close friend who was having her first baby.

She was very keen to have a homebirth, which I am a big supporter of (had my first baby at home). But right from the start I had my doubts as to whether it was a realistic expectation for her - she is morbidly obese (over 20 stone), she copes with any sort of pain very badly, she developed SPD early on and spent the last three months of the pregnancy on the lying down, and has a strong family history of high blood pressure. I didn't voice these concerns to her as I felt it was my job to offer support, but now I'm not sure if I did the right thing.

Throughout her pregnancy, all the professionals involved in her care expressed concerns about her insistence on HB - she asked me to attend some consultant appts with them, not to speak but just for support, which I did. The concerns expressed were about her BMI (which I know is not necessarily a contra-indication) and erratic blood pressure (which she insisted was due to the stress of appts).

She went into labour on her due date and I went round when they called (I am a good
friend of her husband and mum, who was there as well). As I'd been worried she would, she panicked as soon as she went into labour, and it was really really hard to keep her calm and relaxed. The pain terrified her, she was screaming constantly, tense (she refused massage), convinced she was going to die, and using a huge amount of gas&air (18 canisters in 12 hours which I was at the midwives for allowing). She didn't want any of us to leave the room.

After about 6 hours the midwives started suggesting she go to hospital, and she resisted fiercely. After 12 hours they called an ambulance anyway (she was pretty much delusional by this time) and told her they would not give her any more pain relief at home and if she wanted any them she had to go into hospital.

She went, was given an epidural, and the state she was in at this stage was quite worrying as she was almost crazy with pain, thrashing so much they could not site the epidural, screaming and swearing. She had stated before hand (on birthplan) that she wanted myself and her husband to insist on her being consulted about any interventions, which we tried to do but it was almost pointless as she was so distressed. The staff were efficient but had no compassion, calling her 'hysterical' which whilst true was not heplful ti hear. They kept trying to add syntocinon to her saline drip without her permission and I and her husband kept insisting that they consult her first - she kept saying no and then when she fell asleep later that night they added it anyway.

She ended up having an emergency c-s 10 hours after arriveing at hospital.

They told her afterwards that she and the baby had nearly died (though of what, she has never been told). She now thinks that she should not have tried for an HB as it went so badly wrong and is having counsellign for birth trauma and pnd.

I worry a lot that I have failed in one or more of several ways...

a) My concerns about the HB she wanted being unrealistic - could she have picked up on them somehow and they could have undermined her confidence? I didn't voice them and fully supported her wish for it, which leads me to

b) Did I have a responsibility to voice my concerns? Or was I right to just offer support of her wishes?

c) Do you think I should have encouraged her to go to hospital when the midwives first suggested it, rather than back up her wishes? The same goes for the interventions in labour - should I have backed away and let the staff carry the induction out without her consent as maybe it would have been better than the c-s?

Sorry its so long but I am very lost and unsure about all this - she and her husband
say they're glad I was there and couldn't have managed without me but I feel very about it all

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nkf · 05/10/2008 20:28

You could look at it and say "Thank God for trained medical staff. Mother and baby survived despite the mother's stubborn refusal to take sound advice."

As to your role in the matter, I can see why you would feel uncomfortable and perhaps you could have voiced some concerns. But she sounds as if her mind was set on a homebirth. You don't know if your advice would have changed her mind. Probably not.

noonki · 05/10/2008 20:35

I don't think it helpful to try and forget it, as she won't especially if she gets pregnant again

my mum has never got over her traumatic labours (over 30 years ago) and was nearly sick when I went into labour (both times)

You must have been great for her to make you a godparent too, how lovely

Lib76 · 05/10/2008 20:55

sounds like you did your up most to help her when really she shoud have not been so stubborn and put baby and her at risk!! certainly not a candidate for HB. you shoud be proud that you tried everything to support her during a very difficult birth

reikizen · 05/10/2008 20:58

Nothing specific, just to add support really. I'm a student midwife and as such should be an advocate for the woman I am caring for but it's bloody hard without a crystal ball. You did the best you could at the time with the information you had. Keep going but use the experience as a reflective tool is the only advice I can offer. See where the gaps in your knowledge are an reflect on how you might do things differently next time.

hertsnessex · 06/10/2008 20:05

faileddoula (hate this name - stop using it NOW!)

im a regional rep for doula uk - please email me if you want to talk this birth over.

details on my site.
www.primalbirth.co.uk

TexasChainKLAWmassacre · 23/10/2008 13:22

I think you did the best you could and can relate to you in that my first proper doula job was also a baptism of fire!

So contact Hertsinessex, she is lovely and she will help you through this, as well as all the other doulas here.

OrmIrian · 23/10/2008 13:29

What a nightmare for a first birth

I know nothing about apart from an abiding wish to train as a doula (not practicable financially atm). But it sounds as if you did what was expected of you and she wouldn't have listened to you if you had suggested it wasn't ideal.

lollipopmothershalloweenghost · 23/10/2008 16:28

I just want to add my support too, I think you did the best you could in very difficult circs. Sometimes ladies are so intent on doing childbirth in a certain way that they lose their grip on the reality that we are not machines and that our health going in to labour DOES matter, labour is farking difficult even for the fittest and most mentally strong people! With this lady's health issues I think she was mad to even contemplate a HB, but it's not a doula's responsibility to talk her out of it, and why do you think you could anyway when every professional she spoke to failed?!

FWIW I could never be a doula, my DP was my birth partner 5 weeks ago and he said it was the most horrific thing he'd ever seen, he's still saying now that he doesn't want us to have any more kids because he wouldn't want to see me in such pain again - he was still welling up a week later remembering the epidural procedure! I on the other hand have forgotten just about everything of the labour! I do know I wouldn't want to see my loved ones go through it though, it might be natural but by God can it be barbaric!!

hertsnessex · 24/10/2008 10:02

Anarchy Ant, you did mail me and i responded with my numbers bu havnet heard from you. Hope you are ok xx

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