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Switching from private care to NHS ?

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MamanFlo · 20/02/2005 18:25

Hello
I am 30 weeks now and started to get private care. I have actually miscalculated the cost of it and my insurance will not cover it completely if it goes very very very wrong (eg. c section with 10 nights in hospital). If everythings goes to plan no problem, if I have a uncomplicated c-section no problem as well (I will pay for it). With the worst case scenario I might have to pay something like £8000 and it is actually difficult to accept...I am now considering going back to NHS to have a certain peace of mind on the finance side.

Is there anyone here who has experienced this ? Is it easy ?

thanks !

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pupuce · 21/02/2005 17:42

Well let's put it this way NICE thinks that 22% caesarean rate is too high.... A significant proportion of these are from failed inductions... which is a medical process.
Did you see the programme on Channel 4 two weeks ago... the journalist started her report in "such" a good way...something like:
I use to think that i had been lucky to be in hospital as they had given me an emergency caesarean and saved my baby and me.... now I believe (after researching for that programme) that it IS because of the medical intervention I got in labour that I ended up with a caesarean"

This is true of so many women!! Mears has a few times explained that babies don't always like/react well to artificially ruptured membranes, inductions gels, drips and epidurals and other pain killers.... they end up in section.... that IS over medicalisation.
You do (on mumsnmet and other places) have women going for inductions too early, some hospital induce with drugs after 7 days and others after 14 days (it's a postcode thing!!). Some will give you a sweep at term... this is overmedicalising birth. If there is a real concern for a pregancy than by all mans induce... but induction because it's a set date in a hospital's diray or because a woman is "fed up" (less common) are what creates problems....

Overmeidcalisation the French way is teh numbert of scans for example... it leads to very anxious mothers as they often do pick up things which at following scan has disapperaed. they also give you very muich scary info like your baby is too big. A French colleague of mine found herself have a home birth after her OB said thatr for her next baby she must have a section. She said it was written in big red letters on her notes. He had added she is too small to give birth to large baby. Her first was 9lbs and second was 10lbs 5 and she didn't even tear! That is overmedicalisation in HER eyes!

pupuce · 21/02/2005 17:45

Sorry Uwila this is NOT at all against sections (Aloha for example knows that I am not at all against caesareans)... it is against UNNECESSARY sections which leave women traumatised !!! WHich leave women frighten to try a vaginal birth (they are the ones who employ doulas like me!)
Have a section that is not "my" problem.... have a section because you were poorly cared for... i get really annoyed !

lockets · 21/02/2005 17:49

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Uwila · 21/02/2005 18:12

Whilst, I remain in opposition to your opinions, let's nto debate mamanflo's chosen method of delivery. She has not come here seeking advice for that. If we want to debate methods of delivery, we should start a new thread rather than hijacking this one.

I'm happy to share my views on caesarean and debate this topic, but I think that it is rude to hijack another topic in order to preach our views.

Mamanflo, hope you got some useful information regarding nhs vs private here. If you wish to debate caesarean vs. vaginal birth, I suspect you'll find a thread on the topic sometime soon.

Good luck. Again, I want to reiterate that the NHS performs very well in an emergency situation. So if, God forbid, delivery should take a turn for the worse, you would be in good hands either way. Also, often it's the same doctors who work in private and NHS. SO, either way, your consultant should be perfectly qualified.

lockets · 21/02/2005 18:15

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pupuce · 21/02/2005 18:16

Mamanflo has not even talked about her delivery???? Noone is criticising her !!!!
You can't dictate how the thread goes... we have answered her question, the discussion is moving on as it often does !

Désolé mamanflo....

MamanFlo · 21/02/2005 21:21

Don't worry : every debate is worth having, even if some can be a bit contentious...
I am not really happy about having a C section, especially because my skin is very very very thin and fragile and the size of my appendicit scar(english???) is huge and ugly. Additionaly I would love to have at least three children if not 4 if possible, but starting with a c section for the first one is not the best. But at the end of the day, if I have to have it, I will.

I have been very clear with my ob/gy that I was not favouring it and he reassured me that it would happen only in case of emergency. He has very good comments onthis website so I think I can trust him.

But actually over medicalisation is not only about c-section. It is also the amount of tests and screening women get, which can be quite worrying at times. For example the nuchal scan and blood test revealed that I had a greater chance of having a Down Syndrome child for my age class. My DH then insisted on me having a CVS, even if the risk of miscarriage was much greater. His aunt being a doctor as well was adamant that whatever happened I should have a CVS or amniocentesis...but what about the risks ? and what about my worry during these few days waiting for the results ?

Actually, what I really really miss at the moment is a real relationship with another woman "in the know" (not necessarily my mother) having the experience PLUS the medical knowledge, which a male consultant cannot bring. Or maybe am I influenced by pregnancy magazine and TV shows testifying of such care ???

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pupuce · 21/02/2005 21:33

Chère mamanflo

Si tu/vous veux/voulez me contacter et discuter du système anglais et avoir une autre perspective.... n'hésites pas ! Il ya 5 ans j'ai eu mon 1er enfant en GB et je ne savais pas le 10ème de ce que je sais maintenant... on passe toutes par là et moi aussi à l'époque je me sentais un peu isolée.... aucune obligation de me répondre !
Bonsoir
J'ai essayé de te contacter par "Contact another Talker" en haut de la page mais j'ai reçu un message qui dit que tu ne souhaites pas être contactée.... tu peux me contacter par mon site internet

SueW · 21/02/2005 21:53

Why not look for an independent midwife if you are looking for "Actually, what I really really miss at the moment is a real relationship with another woman "in the know" (not necessarily my mother) having the experience PLUS the medical knowledge, which a male consultant cannot bring."

pooka · 22/02/2005 20:55

Or a doula?

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