SO FED UP. yesterday I could have a home water birth. MW just rang to see i cant

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She said although they have been having meetings regarding HB/WAter Birth. She didnt realize that I couldnt actually deliver in the water. As the hospital doesnt currently do water births but will be soon, No one is qualified to actually deliver in the water so will have to get out.
My options are
Still have HB just use pool for a while then get out to deliver.
(Cant see how as I couldnt even move to feel baby head last time)

Go to the hospital I went to last time as they do water birth. (couldnt in end as had meconium.)

Or she said there is a MW out of my area who they could contact to see if she would be willing to come out to me.

Apparently she specializes in WB.
But cant guarentee she will be available for my due date, or if she is obviously her clients come first. (She is not independant BTW)

I told her I would like her to try for her.

Just feeling really fed up now, I was so excited and relieved yesterday when She agreed. As I got fobbed off last time.

I am nearly 35 weeks and she said she doesnt know how long it will take to get back to me regarding this other MW but she wanted to put me in the picture.

Any advice greatly recieved.
Thanks

The big "must" for delivering in water is ensuring that the baby remains completely underwater and is bought up so their face comes into the air first. Apparently if any part comes above water they could take a breath and breathe in the water.

Other than that, TBH I didn't notice anything "extra" for my waterbirth than I had for the 2 dry land ones. I was lucky enough to get the MW who was our area's waterbirth "expert" for my HB. Very lucky seeing as she had to deliver BabyDragon alone

I understand concerns about the midwives not having had practical experience. However, the point is that they should be well aware of the theory and able to cope with any problem if and when it occurs. They are, after all, qualified childbirth professionals...

There are midwives out there who (either by luck or excellent practice ) have never dealt with shoulder dystocia or PPH at a homebirth, for example. You would, however, expect them to be well trained in the causes and remedies of those obstetric emergencies. You wouldn't expect them not to deliver babies at all, just in case either scenario occurs - would you?

Thank you all so much for advice, Its a lot to think about now. Not that I havn't thought about risks involved.

Fordfiesta My local hospital does not offer water births at the moment although MW said they are currently training and will soon be an option.

I can have a bath in hospital but get out to deliver. (Would rather be in my own bath TBH)

Have mentioned this before on another thread that one MW suggest I stay in the bath at home and go in when I am about 7cm dilated like I know.....
That was with dd Who is now 17 month. I got that fed up with more ridiculous comments and no support for home birth that I did go to a hospital outside of my area as they did offer water birth. (Due to meconium didnt get the opportunity)

Which is why I am opting for home water birth this time.

I still have no definte answer regarding stitching at home or at hospital if I tear again. Am quite worried about this which is why I want a WB to help try to reduce this.
MW says it depends who is on call at the time so stitch at home some dont.
Surely this defeats the object of HB to be transferred at the end to stitch up.
Obviously I am prepared/flexible to transfer in if I need to.

Also dd was 91b 3oz. I am currently measuring 3 weeks ahead. MW also said baby felt big. How acurate is this measurement
Although I have read risks of shoulder dys (sp?) Mw have not meantioned it risky for HB if this is another big baby.

Could anyone shed any light on this for me please.
Really sorry this is long and sorry if I have repeated myself from previous threads.

Also forgot to say MW rang my dh to say now I can deliver in the water and a nursing officer is going to call me to discuss it further.

fundal measurement and palpation and growth scans all have margin for error

women tend to grow the size of baby they can birth, size itself does not necessarily mean you will have a shoulder dystocia.

reading thorugh AIMS waterbirth booklet and suggests that if you have a SD, then the physical act of stepping out of the birth pool can help resolve it..

being in hospital will not stop you having SD, ifyswim

also, big baby in itsel does not mean tearing, and as you know waterbirth supports the perineum and softens the tissues making tearing less likely

you might have a tear that does not requre stitches, you may need stitches, you may not tear. but you are going to have to wait and see, and take it as it comes a bit...

hope all goes well and am glad you have got the go ahead

Glad to hear that they're saying they can now deliver in the water. I don't see any reason why they shouldn't be able to in the first place. When I asked my MW if she and her team were okay with delivering in the water she looked at me like I was a bit mad and said "Of course we are, dear. We're midwives, that's what we do." Did I mention that I love my MW?

When I had my Ds in 1998, my MW had never attended at a WB before, let alone qualified to deliver one. She didn't tell me that until after Ds was delivered(and as it turned out I had to go to theatre to have forceps delivery anyway), but she didn't have a 'qualification' in WB! I find that a bit odd really, unless things have changed since then. Same MW attended Dd's water birth at the end of 2006. I never heard talk of qualified or not MW's though.
Hope you get what you want. I know I'd have gone to almost any lengths to have what I wanted.

I was expecting a largish baby and was told that as I was high risk, I couldn't deliver in water, although could use it for labour. In the event, I got the urge to push just about 30 mins after getting into the pool, and delivered DS's head pretty much straight away into the water!

His shoulder did get stuck and I did have to get out of the pool and walk across the room, where I then delivered the rest of him onto the bed . He was 10lb 4.5oz and I didn't tear.

The water definitely helped as I was a lot more uncomfortable whilst waiting for the pool to fill up, and it was much easier once in.

soupdragon, when I had Dd the MW specifically told DP to bring the crown of the head out of the water first so that she would not breath before her face was out of the water...

can i mention the AIMS waterbirth booklet again? tis very good!