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John Radcliffe (Oxford) or Rosie (Cambridge)? Any experiences?

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Qally · 06/07/2008 14:17

DH is starting a new job in Oxford soon, and I'm going to be 8 months pregnant. The options are either for me to stay put in Cambridge till after the birth and have the baby as planned (MLU within the Rosie hospital, so fully run by midwives encouraging active birth, but with the consultant-led care on the floor below) or move to Oxford lock, stock & barrel and book at the John Radcliffe- which I know very little about. I have a couple of complications that make a VB a very, very good idea for me, so I really do want to avoid an epidural if I can due to cascaded intervention risks, but as I know the pain may just get too much I still want one available as a last-ditch option. (Knowing I had meds for severe morning sickness helped me cope, even though I never took them - just knowing there was relief available if I cracked meant I could cope. I want to have that reassurance in labour, too.) That rules out somewhere like Wallingford.

Can I ask what people's experiences of both hospitals have been when birthing? Obviously several other factors are at issue, in terms of such a badly timed move, but I wanted to know what people thought of each hospital. It would really help us decide.

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madmouse · 07/07/2008 08:54

Qally, my Oxford community midwives were brilliant (Waterperry team, Headington area)and there is a midwife led birth centre, I think near Wallingford. Disadvantage, it is not attached to a hospital, so in case of complications it is a blue light transfer. I did not use it as I was planning a home birth, and living a mile from the JR it woud have been madness.

Just judging from how I would feel, stay put until you have given birth. 8 months is a rotten time to move (although with a baby it is not easy either, have just self-packed and moved with 5 month old).

CharlotteYork · 07/07/2008 10:02

Go to the John Radcliffe and ask to be put under Mr Impey - he is one of the UK's top Obstetricians and is the UK Obs REp to the World Health Organisation.

The Radcliffe is one of the best places you can be for just about any medical thing you so would definately go for it.

Plus being close to your hubby at this time will be so important and relieves the stress of him trying to get back to you.

3andnomore · 07/07/2008 10:15

I had my first ds in The Rosie Maternity Hospital and was very happy with their care.Mind you, that was just over 12 years ago now.
No experience of the other Hospital, sorry!

TarkaLiotta · 07/07/2008 10:40

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cazzybabs · 07/07/2008 10:46

I have had all 3 dcs at the Rosie. All the times I have found it to be fantastic.

Bella73 · 07/07/2008 10:54

I had both my dds at the Rosie, the younger one just 8 weeks ago. I had brilliant experiences both time, though agree that the wards are very busy so postnatal care not great (but didn't find them unclean at all). I wanted MLU both times. Started out in the pool room in MLU first time but ended up (48 hrs in early labour after waters breaking) having to go to the delivery ward as needed to be induced to get things moving on.... care was great, especially when they suspected a problem with dd1 (she was fine) and I had a ventouse delivery. I had 3 midwives over the time I was tehre because of shift changes but was never left by myself the whole time

DD2 I was due to have in the MLU but by the time I rang to say we were coming in, they were full so we went up to the delivery ward but basically had an MLU-style delivery there. The mw was fantastic, can't praise all the midwives there highly enough, she never left my side, respected my birth plan wishes and I had a natural birth (only about 8 puffs of gas & air). So even if the MLU is shut, you can still have an MLU style delivery on the delivery ward too.

FWIW, I was born in the JR but can't really comment on it as an experience

Poledra · 07/07/2008 11:05

Had both mine in the Rosie, 2004 and 2006. Both times the care during birth was great, aftercare not so good. Dreadfully understaffed on the wards and the food is diabolical. Also had to spend 5 days on an antenatal ward in Rosie due to abdominal surgery whilst pg with dd2, was not good - the mws spent most of their time with the new mums and I was rather left to my own devices - thank god for my mum!! Can sort of understand the mws priorities, but it wasn't my fault that I was there for other reasons.
Haven't used the MLBU but did use the upstairs pool room (which is bigger) at the Rosie, and would thoroughly recommend it - just don;t be using it when I want it (sometime in the next 3 weeks ).

VictorianSqualor · 07/07/2008 11:53
madmouse · 07/07/2008 15:22

''Go to the John Radcliffe and ask to be put under Mr Impey - he is one of the UK's top Obstetricians and is the UK Obs REp to the World Health Organisation.''

Could not agree more CharlotteYork. He is fab. My lo was born with brain injury and he took an hour to debrief with me and dh when lo was three months. we talked about causes, reasons, future babies, pregnancies and deliveries. I never actually met him pre birth as i was going to have a homebirth, but I am sorry to have moved away now.!

akent · 07/07/2008 17:01

Hi Bella73. Congrats on the arrival of dd2 - double pink for you, too. Hope all is going well.

I suppose I could also contribute to the thread, rather than just hijack. I had DD1 in the Rosie in 2006. Planned homebirth, but ended up in a clinical delivery suite due to meconium stained waters. Despite continuous monitoring, the midwife encouraged me to move around as much as possible and I laboured on all fours on the floor a lot. So, active birth encouraged even with monitoring.

DD1 was born at 11am and I asked to be discharged immediately and was home at 7pm, so can't comment on postnatal care (although have heard wards arn't great - hot and noisy).

VictorianSqualor · 07/07/2008 17:34

I didn't see Mr.Impey, I did however have Ctherine Greenwood as my cons and will be asking for her specifically when I try for my VBA4C

vacaloca · 07/07/2008 23:36

Another vote for the JR. Had DS1 there 3 months ago - a VBA2C and all the staff really respected my wishes for a vaginal birth and didn't really try to push me to have another CS. I had a bad pph afterwards and the care was fantastic. I was also under Mr Impey (ahem) during the pregnancy and have great respect for him. Also had the Waterperry midwives when planning a homebirth and they were all fab.

vacaloca · 07/07/2008 23:37
pedilia · 07/07/2008 23:44

I had 2 of my DC's at the Rosie, in 2004 and 2006.
Both were very positive experiences, the care was excellent and a very attractive spanish male midwife

hedgepig · 08/07/2008 10:08

pedilia - I due in Oct at the Rosie I will keep an eye out for the male spanish mw, may help pass the time

cazzybabs · 08/07/2008 10:56

according to my mw he is gay...

VictorianSqualor · 08/07/2008 12:44

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hedgepig · 08/07/2008 13:02

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Bella73 · 08/07/2008 13:35

Ooh Pedilia, I had that male midwife with DD1 - he was wonderful. And not so much in an attractive way (that was definitely the last thing on my mind) but he just took such brilliant care of me and my DP noted that he was the one midwife who went to the most trouble to make sure the monitors were picking up DD1's heartbeat properly. So, when everything got a bit panicky, I was desperately holding his hand and making sure he was coming into theatre with us (they were prepping for emergency caesarean)! I would have loved to have him again for my second - highly recommended!

naevue · 18/07/2008 23:37

I had dd2 a while ago at the JR and had a vbac after previous cs for breech. There is 1 pool room and I got to use it as no one else wanted it (this backs up what someone said earlier)

hospital midwives were great as were all of the community midwives in the waterperry group that I came into contact with

i had the same midwife with me throughout and was rarely left with just my birth partner

I stayed 1 night in the JR and found the ward v pleasant midwives were, with 1 exception, v kind and helpful

i would definitely recommend it

Poledra · 05/08/2008 17:06

Qally, you've probably made your decision by now but just wanted to say that I had the most wonderful birth at the Rosie 2 weeks ago. I was induced for medical reasons but the most wonderful mw looked after me and turned what could have been a negative experience into a fantastic, calm and moving birth. And the food's improved a lot too

hedgepig · 06/08/2008 15:53

congratulations Poldara I'm due at the Rosie in Oct, pleased to hear about the food

love2sleep · 06/08/2008 15:59

Both my boys were born at the Rosie (2005 & 2007)

In both cases the care during the birth was fantastic and the "care" after the birth was non-existant.

Also be aware that the MLBU is not always open - sometimes there are not enough staff.

1dilemma · 06/08/2008 16:11

I havn't had a baby in either but from what I''ve heard they are both fine, I wouldn't choose one over the other IYSWIM
Only thing is wouldn't it be easier to have baby where dh is and your home is?

Good luck with the move (and the birth)

love2sleep · 06/08/2008 16:17

Just been thinking about this some more and I agree with 1d - it is probably more important to choose the place that works well from a practical/emotional point of view. I would say that you would want the LO to be the start of your new life in the new place and the sooner you start making connections to your new home the better. And the logistics will be much easier if you are all in the same place.

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