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Is the post natal ward the fifth circle of hell?

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Fluffygreenslippers · 11/09/2022 19:09

Because everyone I’ve spoken to has received shocking care, if you can even call it that. Following on from my other thread about labour I thought I was share my experience of the post natal ward. I hope that’s okay. It’s very long!

So after the delivery I was wheeled to the recovery ward to recover. The recovery ward was actually lovely. There was no one there except one nurse. It would have been a great time for me to finally sleep except someone decide it was time to clatter a bucket around outside.

I was pretty much in shock. I suddenly had a baby. A nurse came in and showed us things. I don’t remember, I was too tired to do anything. I still had the cannula in my arm which was extremely painful, my whole hand and wrist had swollen up from the constant iv. I still have staining now from iv leakage.

I had an idea that once I was up and about I could go home. So I fought to stand up and walk around, even though I felt like I had been hit by a train. I was in the recovery ward all day although thinking back it only felt like an hour? Anyway as the day wore on they wheeled me into the post natal ward.

As I was wheeled in, a pig faced woman with her boyfriend glared at me. Like really scowled, like I had farted on her birthday cake or something. The boyfriend gawped at me. I was exhausted and baffled. It was 8pm and DH was told he had to leave. He wasn’t allowed to stay with me. I broke down in tears. I have never felt such despair as I did in that moment. A nice nurse asked me why I was crying. She reassured me that the staff were there to help and not to worry. Ha! DH left.

The day staff left and the night staff came. The scowling woman in the bed opposite started groaning and crying out, saying she was in pain. She did this at regular intervals. I found out later she had a uterus infection. I don’t know where her baby was.

A couple of hours passed. The baby and I looked at each other. He did a poo. I had never changed a nappy in my life. Perhaps one of the nurses could just show me..? I went to have a look for the nice nurse. Oh silly me she had left. The night staff were all sitting in the office and looked at me like I had two heads when I peered in. I managed to change a nappy, and feed him. I later found out the nappy was backwards.

An assistant came to check the babies temperature. She said it was too low. I was suddenly terrified that somehow they would take him away from me.

The baby started crying. The huffing woman opposite started shouting at me saying she wasn’t going to listen to THAT all night. She started an angry call to her boyfriend, complaining about her pain and the noise my baby was making. I felt flustered and embarrassed and was trying not to cry. Let me tell you I am a gobby cow usually. In usual circumstances I would have offered to knock her out. But I’d lost three litres of blood. There were thirty stitches in my vagina. I could barely walk. I felt scared and vulnerable. None of the midwives were around.
The woman started aggressively chomping bbq flavoured crisps. I was so tired. I hadn’t slept since Tuesday night & it was now Friday. I lay down and finally started to go to sleep when the woman opposite started snoring and grunting like a pig. Then I heard music which gradually got louder. Had the woman got a radio on? The baby cried again, the woman woke up and started shouting at me again.

I picked up the baby and staggered to the nurses station. The door was shut. I knocked. No one answered so I opened it anyway. They all glared at me. THEY were playing the radio. Playing a loud radio! At 12am! On a post natal ward! I told them that I wanted to be moved. They argued with me saying they couldn’t move people wherever they wanted. I insisted, tears streaming down my face. One nurse agreed to help me.

I was moved into another room. It was freezing cold. I realised that all the windows were open! I went around shutting them but some I couldn’t reach. I asked a nurse if she could shut them and she just looked at me and walked away. During the night a woman who had had a c section asked if a nurse might pick up the baby for her. The nurse said do it yourself. Another loudly gossiped about her 50th birthday plans. It was 4am at this point. I managed to sleep for 45 minutes. The nurse then came and banged an empty plate on my tray waking me up. An hour later breakfast was served which was brown bread toast. I opened my mouth to tell her I was celiac but she had already fucked off.


At this point I text my husband. I had left him alone all night as I knew he was sleeping but I told him to come get me. I was leaving and if they didn’t let me go I would call the police.

Finally the day staff came, and the ward manager came to talk to me. She said I could go home. Unfortunately I had to have a transfusion and the baby various tests.

We finally escaped at 6pm on Saturday. I had been admitted at 12pm on Wednesday. During that time I had slept approximately 2 hours and eaten nothing.

What was your experience of the post natal ward?

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Motherofchickenslol · 11/09/2022 19:53

Yep pretty much the fifth circle of hell. I went in on Thursday for an induction, no one sleeps it’s like a revolving door with a constant stream of ladies but the a least the staff were nice on that ward. I finally had an emergency csection on the Saturday morning, had sepsis so didn’t get out until the Monday evening. I did not sleep, the lights remained on throughout the night. The night shift midwives seemed to be the most unhelpful! If you called for help, it was like you were an inconvenience. My baby was tongue tied which was completely missed! I had to go private to get that sorted! I have never felt so miserable in all my life. I could not wait to leave. I think I cried daily and even though I couldn’t master breastfeeding I decided to leave! Once the tongue tie was sorted she breastfed like a dream. I think first time mums need extra support but sadly I did not get it.

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Dyra · 11/09/2022 23:24

DC1 wasn't so bad, but then I only had a vaginal birth to recover from. I was only there for pre-eclampsia monitoring. The other women in my bay kept quiet at night, and none of the babies were screamers. DC2 was a little worse, as I, and the other 3 women in my bay were all recovering from C-sections. One of the babies was also a serious screamer unless she was being held. And even then if it wasn't quite right she would anyway. Meant none of us got much sleep the two nights we were all together, but none less than the poor mother of that baby.

I honestly wouldn't say it was a circle of hell though. Maybe I've had lightning strike twice and gotten decent experiences. Probably more because I didn't expect, or need any help, so I couldn't be disappointed on that front.

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FoxtrotSkarloey · 11/09/2022 23:34

Yes.

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noclothesinbed · 11/09/2022 23:42

I think everyone's experience is probably quite similar but I wouldn't moan about it We are lucky to have a free national health service and I'm gratefully for it. I think you were unreasonable to be having a baby and not have found out how to change a nappy ! You should let go of it and move forward

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nocoolnamesleft · 11/09/2022 23:42

Do you have to be so nasty about the poor woman who had to share with you?

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PurpleHeatherBlooms · 11/09/2022 23:49

The NHS are on their knees, nurses have families too and home lives. Did you not go to classes to teach you how to change a nappy? Everyone I know who has had children feels out of their depth but you learn to change nappies. I don’t think the nurse was ‘gossiping’ about her 50th birthday plans, perhaps telling other nurses, certainly not ‘gossiping’ FFS.

Your full post reeks of drama. Why would you call the police of you chose to discharge yourself? 🙄.

Get a grip because parenting gets a whole lot worse! You will encounter many annoying and stressful things along the parent journey.

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BonesOfWhatYouBelieve · 11/09/2022 23:50

Yes, hideous. And like you I have coeliac disease so needed gluten free food. I ticked that option on the little menu they brought round but it never materialised. You'd think in a hospital they'd pay attention to allergy requirements, especially when they had a specific "tick here for gluten free breakfast" box.
With DD1 a few years ago I'd haemorrhaged and couldn't stand without my vision going and collapsing back down. DH had been sent home and when I requested that someone help me walk to the loo so I wouldn't keel over they acted like I'd asked them to hand peel grapes and feed them to me.
The woman in the bed opposite had had a c section and couldn't hold her baby, or prepare formula. She also kept vomiting on herself & the bed because she couldn't sit up to get another little vomit bowl thingy. The fact her husband had been sent home was insane. She was in absolutely no fit state to care for herself, let alone a newborn and, beyond eventually changing the vomity bedding, no one helped her

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MintJulia · 11/09/2022 23:52

I was so tired after labour, they could have hosted a brass band and I wouldn't have noticed. I was recovering from forceps delivery so not feeling very mobile.

Third afternoon, dp came in to see us and staff nurse said we could probably go home the following day. DP shrugged, said he had a business meeting and wouldn't have time to fetch us so we would have to stay. I didn't know whether to laugh at nurse's look of outrage or just be embarrassed at my new status as a 'parcel' .

I kept the curtains round all the time, bumbled my way through first nappy and first feed somehow. On day two, a nurse said I could ask for help if I needed it. I felt happier shutting everyone out and working it out on my own. I definitely wasn't feeling sociable. I read the entire Shetland series of novels, fed ds and slept. I didn't talk to anyone. I quite enjoyed it.

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PurpleHeatherBlooms · 11/09/2022 23:52

a pig faced woman with her boyfriend glared at me.

This is the part of your post that I stopped felling any empathy for you. What a rude, judgemental and unwarranted comment. It’s disgusting.

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PurplePansy05 · 11/09/2022 23:53

Uhm, no, we aren't lucky to have shitty postnatal wards, no, and we shouldn't be putting up with this crap.

OP, my experience wasn't good either, but not quite as bad as yours if it's any consolation at all. What helped me is that I made friends with another woman on my ward and we somehow perservered together. My husband was only allowed there for 2hrs per day (in covid). I had a C-section and delayed recovery for both, DS and I, due to gestational diabetes and his hypoglycaemia. There was a vile woman on our ward too, I swear I had thoughts of smothering her with a pillow due to her snoring and loud conversations all night. Her kid was screaming at the same time she was snoring, ffs. The nurses/midwives didn't give a shit apart from a couple of nicer ones, particularly if you had a C-section, they absolutely left you to it as if you weren't deserving of any help. The only other nice memory was a lovely Spanish dinner lady, I was so hungry after giving birth and she was really making my day bringing the meals round, she was so friendly. DH also brought me about 15 KitKats to cheer me up after months without sugary stuff in pregnancy due to my complications and it really made my day.

Couldn't fucking wait to leave that place! One midwife told me oh you'll be back in a year! DS is 13 mo, enough said, I ain't even fucking pregnant and have no plans and in no rush to ever come back there!

Take care, it's over now - make sure everyone around you is looking after you better now. Congratulations on your baby and well done - you've made it! Xx

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PurplePansy05 · 11/09/2022 23:56

Also about that woman you referred to, if she didn't have her baby with her, I would be mindful that maybe her baby was poorly or maybe sadly she lost her baby and wasn't in the right frame of mind, you just don't know this, do you. Try not to take this personally. Xx

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Sparklybutold · 11/09/2022 23:58

I self discharged. Made a formal complaint. Empty apologies given. Still impacts me.now tbh.

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RyanYESorNO · 12/09/2022 00:00

I'm so sorry you had such an awful experience.

I had an 'easy' short birth (I hate calling it that as it fucking hurt!). Nurses all lovely, can not fault their care, but then I didn't need any care so I've no idea how they'd have been if I'd needed anything. Midwife shoved some painkillers up my bum after birth and I was offered painkillers again after but didn't need any. I was given some help with breastfeeding. I was well fed. There were only 3 of us on the ward- 2 other nic, quiet women, although we didn't really talk to each other.

BUT...
I still found it HORRIFIC!

I just don't understand how it can be the environment women should in any way be in after birth. It was SO hot. It was noisy. I just wanted sleep, and so when my baby was asleep I was nearly crying at being woken by the other 2 babies - how was that fair!? I gave birth at 1am and had 20 minutes sleep that night, purely down to noise. Doors banging, women being admitted to my ward and other wards, keys jangling, snoring. Just HOW is that the environment we should be in after being exhausted from labour?

I then had to stay another night- absolutely no reason but 1 night is minimum stay in Ireland and my first night didn't count. I got 20 minutes sleep that night too.

It was absolute torture - and that was with excellent care.

My first was a home birth. My own bed, no noise, and a midwife back to visit me the next day. Post--birth was just 1000% better experience with a home birth than hospital.

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Q2C4 · 12/09/2022 00:06

Yes it is. It's horrific. It was so bad at the hospital I was at that I self discharged against medical advice the first time around even though I had no firm method in place for feeding my baby.
When my mother had me, mothers were in for 10 days so they could rest. The nurses actually helped and took the babies overnight so the mothers could sleep. How we've come from that to the current state of affairs is beyond me.

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VintageVest · 12/09/2022 00:09

Some of these stories are awful. You are correct OP it is a hellish experience. I discharged myself and would never willingly go back.

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SarahAndQuack · 12/09/2022 00:16

PurpleHeatherBlooms · 11/09/2022 23:52

a pig faced woman with her boyfriend glared at me.

This is the part of your post that I stopped felling any empathy for you. What a rude, judgemental and unwarranted comment. It’s disgusting.

I agree. What a disgusting thing to say about someone.

I can well believe you had a hard time - so many people do, and it's awful that the NHS, which is wonderful, has been so badly damaged by a lack of funding. But ... ugh. You sound like a tabloid journalist trying to stir up emotions.

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glowingtwig · 12/09/2022 00:22

My first birth I nearly died from an eclamptic fit post/delivery so was well looked after in a private room until discharge, I didn't even have to make my own toast.

Second birth i had blood pressure problems again and a haemorrhage but nothing as dramatic as before so I was soon put on a ward where partners could stay... the bays were so small the lady's husband next door constantly had his backside pushed up against my curtain. More and more women with babies and husbands who looked like they would be epic snorers turned up. I told the midwife that my DH needed to go home to care for our toddler and so didn't want to be alone on a couples ward.

I was moved to a different ward with one other lady who had had a terrible birth - I know this because all through the night every detail was loudly discussed on the phone with numerous members of her friends and family. No attempt to keep voices down even though it was 3am. Our babies tag-teamed crying. Every 3 minutes a midwife/HCA would walk in and out of the sliding door which wrenched itself out of its casings each time with a loud whirring sound and metallic screech. To open the door there was a square metal kick button that was firmly hoofed by whoever was going in and out, the noise enough to jump you from any sort of slumber.

Every. single. time I fed and settled the baby and tried to sleep over the next 48 hours someone came and woke me or him up... blood pressure obs, reflexes, blood tests. A member of staff in the corridor decided to sing some songs to himself at 4am. If you pressed the call bell for help with feeding or lifting the baby you got barely suppressed eye-rolls.

The shower floor was covered with pools of blood.

In the daytime there was a lot of construction work going on at the hospital so as soon as 8am ticked round and my husband came back to help with the baby, so when I could have snatched some sleep, the diggers and pneumatic drills started.

Yes. It was truly dreadful and meant I began my journey of new parent and mother of two hallucinating from lack of sleep.

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Wouldloveanother · 12/09/2022 05:42

Fluffy I knew this was you from the writing style. You certainly have a taste for amateur dramatics.

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Wouldloveanother · 12/09/2022 05:45

Anyhow, I look forward to your tale of returning home with the baby to a flooded house, a gas leak, the plumber from hell, the cast of Stomp moving in next door, and a malevolent neighbour coming round to hang on the door and scream at you. Or something like that.

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miltonj · 12/09/2022 05:57

I had a terrible first birth. Which was poorly managed, but thought the post natal care was brilliant and actually enjoyed my stay on the ward (it was high dependency) I've got lovely memories of it. This was in the UK.

My second birth was in a different European country and although the labour was managed much better, the post natal ward was an absolute disgrace. Having to provide your own water, left to sit in a bed pan for extended periods of time while nurses disappeared. Nurses shouting at people for attempting to change their own babies nappies but wernt available to do it for you?! They'd ran out of maternity pads and DVT stockings and most oriole were sitting around in sheets of blood.

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ChillysWaterBottle · 12/09/2022 06:36

You are 100% right OP. My experience was horrific. The staff were appalling and couldn't give a shit about the patients. Thank f**k my partner was allowed to stay as he did all the care for me and our newborn. Also - ignore PP. I paid hundreds of pounds for an NCT course before hand and it still took a few gos to get a nappy right when it's on an actual tiny baby and you're sleep deprived and have lost blood.

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ChillysWaterBottle · 12/09/2022 06:41

noclothesinbed · 11/09/2022 23:42

I think everyone's experience is probably quite similar but I wouldn't moan about it We are lucky to have a free national health service and I'm gratefully for it. I think you were unreasonable to be having a baby and not have found out how to change a nappy ! You should let go of it and move forward

No one should be told to be grateful for dreadful, substandard care. It's also not 'free' - its paid for by our taxes, which is how it should be.

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echobunnies · 12/09/2022 06:41

Yes, it was for me. I had a huge PPH and was very weak and anaemia. The low point was when they refused to bring food over to me, I had to walk to get it and I fainted.

Fortunately, second time round I was able to go straight home from the delivery room and avoided the postnatal ward.

Maternity services in this country are terrible in my experience. We were considering a third child but it’s one of the main things that put me off - I just couldn’t face having to deal with the NHS again.

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megletthesecond · 12/09/2022 06:42

Yes. But as it only happens to women nothing will ever change.

I did take less crap after DC2 though. I refused to get up too soon after my section and it was a much quicker recovery.

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youagainomg · 12/09/2022 06:46

The staff were lovely but so noisy. I'll always remember them washing up at 5am who needs to wash up then! Luckily i was always discharged early but my last pregnancy I demanded to go home even though I had high blood pressure in labour but not during pregnancy. Said I could die it was Christmas Day I wanted to go home give me the tablets.

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