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Hypnobirthing - how can I learn without shelling out for a course?

43 replies

pregnabrain · 02/01/2008 18:13

Anyone got any book / CD / DVD recommendations to learn hypnobirthing techniques?

Or do I really, really need to go on an expensive course?

(please say no)

Many thanks in advance

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MaryAnnSingleton · 02/01/2008 18:23

my hypnotherapist does cds for hypnobirthing - mail oder if you're interested - about £10 I think

MaryAnnSingleton · 02/01/2008 18:27

just looked at the website - he does a painfree childbirth cd which has affirmations under a relaxing surf sound - I think you might benefit first from a session or two of hypnotherapy so that you can learn to relax yourself -

dontwanttogetoutofbed · 02/01/2008 18:34

i read a wonderful book about it, i will have to think of the name and get back to you. you can go to the justbewell.com website and download a 'gentle birth' mp3 (or order a dvd). there are two, one that you listen to during pregnancy and one that you listen to during the birth. it is FAboulous
good luck

bumpybecky · 03/01/2008 00:14

look up natal hypnotherapy cds on eBay

I've got two (one eBay and one new) for different stages of pregnancy and can really recommend them. They've really helped me relax and I'm definately sleeping better

BrummieOnTheRun · 03/01/2008 11:35

agree with everyone else: CDs are probably fine without the course.

Half way house: book a single session (1-2 hours) with a hypnobirthing practitioner. They'll show you the techniques.

The 3 things that worked for me were the breathing (out breath longer than in breath), the confidence-building and the soothing talk on the CD in labour(although anyone but Gowri Mothas made me cringe, ha, ha!). You don't need to go on the course to get any of that.

pregnabrain · 03/01/2008 14:22

hello again and thank you for your advice

i've done a bit of rooting around and there is SO much out there!

Lots of Mongan method ones (all seems to be American)

£50 set of four CDs from NCT - worth the money?

Some by Maggie Howell get good ratings on Amazon.

Any of these ring bells with you?

Wish I could listen to them first as the 'annoying voice' thing could really put me off!

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hypnobirthingmummy · 03/01/2008 15:53

Hi there, as is obvious by my nickname I actually teach HypnoBirthing, although I've also used it myself three times (before training too) - I've tried all of the methods over the years, from CDs, to sessions with hypnotherapists (not actual HypnoBirthing practitioners) to trademarked HypnoBirthing and have to say that the actual HypnoBirthing is very different and worked so much better for me (I had epidurals in my births with just the CDs and the hypnosis).

Most people dont understand the differences, in HypnoBirthing (the Mongan Method) classes you actually cover lots of regular antenatal stuff (so you dont need to go to any other classes if you don't want to), you cover forming a birth plan, watch loads of DVDs, are taught about the history of birth and why people think it's painful (we call this "de-hypnotising" you), massage, breathing techniques, positions for birth, place of birth etc..but the best thing is your partner (usually the dad) is there too which makes a HUGE difference in my personal and professional experience.

When I just had hypnothereapy and listened to the CDs on my own at home I don't think it worked so well (well clearly it didn't as it bloody hurt and I had an epidural! with my HypnoBirths I didn't need any pain relief) as my husband wasn't able to help me in the same way as with HypnoBirthing where he was really involved.

Also the added benefit with classes is that you get the hypnotherapy in class (so does your birth partner which is great for sceptical and nervous dads!) which can be tailored to you, which obviously you don't get with a "one size fits all" CD.

Re. the voices being irritating it actually doesn't matter as in hypnosis your subconscious is non-critical, in other words it doesn't matter if it's a man or woman reading, if they are American, English, French, Spanish etc....all hypnosis is self hypnosis too and once you learn to relax correctly (another plus for the classes as your teacher can check you are doing it properly) the voice really will be irrelevant.

HypnoBirthing was started by a lady in America but actually all of the theory is English (and 100years old!) there is also a UK specific book version and hundreds of UK practitioners on here: www.hypnobirthing.co.uk

Lastly re. the expense do shop around, many HypnoBirthing practitioners have free places or reduced rates for those with financial difficulties and many offer payment via installments, my own eg are £200 paid in 4 installments of £50.

The one other thing re. expense is I always say to people "how much did your pram cost?" "how much are you spending on the cot?" etc...I don't understand why people are willing to spend many hundreds of pounds on kitting out their nurseries and buying designer prams when the one thing that really matters to the health and wellbeing of the mum and baby is the baby's birth - isn't that the one thing REALLY worth investing in? It costs less than a £1 per day every day of your pregnancy to do a HypnoBirthing course!!

Anyway, good luck, I hope you have a great birth :-) It's such a special time, I'm envious of you doing it again!

BrummieOnTheRun · 03/01/2008 16:54

Interesting to hear from a practitioner. I tried a full course (4 group sessions with the Gowri Motha guys) and a 1-to-1 session with a Hypnobirthing practitioner and CDs and just couldn't get into the full self-hypnosis thing. I believe in the power of the mind over the body, but the exercises just didn't 'work' for me: no uncontrollable rising hands, LOL!

It didn't stop me having a very calm labour and drug free birth, though, and the relaxation techniques, positive visualisation and confidence building they teach you can still work a treat.

MKG · 03/01/2008 18:09

Take the class. You won't know how you'll do until you get in there. The moment I knew hypnobirthing was for me was one the instructor of the class (most won't have more than 6 couples) did a reading with our eyes closed just relaxing and after she asked us how long it was everyone said 10 mins, 8 mins, I said 3 mins. She told us that the reading was 15 minutes long. It was then that I knew I could do it. My first baby I slept through labor and pushing. My second I didn't sleep through, but it went by so fast. Neither of them had any pain relief.

The classes are so worth the money. I didn't take anyother pre-natal classes, and it really did change my whole view on giving birth.

hypnobirthingmummy · 03/01/2008 20:13

Brummieontherun:

I think you've summed up exactly why taking a course is so important! self hypnosis is a learnt skill, it takes time and practice to make sure that it will work for you well on the day, it's good to have somebody guiding you through the process and answering questions etc...I think that's why just listening to CDs didn't work for me (that and the fact my husband wasn't involved and we didn't do any de-hypnotising or watching births etc..which is also confidence building). So many people expect to be able to just listen to a CD and pop out a baby with no pain, but it doesn't work like that! it's a bit of a discipline!

Also, we have what I call a "toolkit" of things that can help, not all of them work for everybody, the key is finding what really works for you - and your partner - and practicing, again if you go to classes you will (both) practice in class and the practitioner can help you find one that works for you, it doesn't matter if they don't all work! I'm terrible at visualisation personally, but that's fine, I used other skills to have lovely births!

Incidentally, the Gowri Motha method is also very different to HypnoBirthing, she places a lot of emphasis on having to do things externally to your body to get through labour - things like complementary therapies, diet etc..and you have to use hypnosis to control pain on the day - you don't do this in HypnoBirthing. Again, I think some people think that all hypnosis for childbirth classes/books/CDs are the same and they aren't! It's really just about finding something that works best for you, finding an approach that rings true with you - and also a practitioner too, it's very important that you gel with whoever will be teaching you!

Obviously reading a book/listening to a CD is better than nothing and if all women did just that then that would be a great start, but I personally really don't think it is something you can do to full effect by yourself.

Gemy · 03/01/2008 20:54

I bought a hypnobirthing MP3 off ebay for £4.99. I had a drug free, straight forward birth using just breathing, birthing ball and tens machine. To be honest, I'm not sure whether the MP3 made any difference but I can say that even at 6cms dilated I had not reached for my Tens machine and could manage the pain (and could still make sure my nightie matched my slippers and sing along to christmas songs.

Maybe it's just that I knew I'd listened to the hypnobirthing MP3 the required amount of times etc and this gave my the confidance to believe I could do this?

Either way, it all helped for me.

whomovedmychocolate · 03/01/2008 20:57

The Mongan book and CD is on Amazon for I think £18. Appreciate classes are good but for some people not an option.

pregnabrain · 03/01/2008 22:41

Wow. Thanks for all this.

Gives a lot of food for thought.

The argument about the lack of partner's involvement with CD/book alone seems quite compelling. He was my absolute rock last time, and I will need him to be totally in tune with how I'm trying to get through the contractions if it's going to work, i think.

I think i might start off with a CD and think about doing at least one class (I think you suggested that as a halfway house, Brummieontherun).

You're not anywhere near south east London are you, Hypnobirthingmummy?

When's the latest I should do a class / classes if dh and I decide we should? I presume you need a decent amount of time to practise after?

Many thanks again xx What would we do without MN?

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chunglimum · 03/01/2008 23:02

I did a weekend workshop (Mongan method) because I was certain that I was willing to pay anything to have a straightforward birth. My dp came too but he never got into it enough to really help with it on the day, although he is a gentle soul and very supportive. However, I practised religiously, every day from week 25 and it worked brilliantly for me... I was so calm and confident. My labour was only 12 hours (first one) and I didn't need any other pain relief. I think a class really helps you understand the theory behind it all. I also had Tranceforming Childbirth CDs and they were really mellow.

purpleduck · 03/01/2008 23:15

Hi, I'm also a hypnotherapist (not hypnobirth though)
Its definately better to get something tailored for you, something that addresses your issues, rather than a cd
hth

macaco · 04/01/2008 10:44

Hi

I'm 24 weeks and have bought the Marie Mongan book and CD. When should I start to practice the techniques?

hypnobirthingmummy · 04/01/2008 17:22

Pregnabrain - Sadly I'm not London based but there are lots of practitioners there - do contact one or two.

I also do one offs as a sort of "birth confidence" session, not HypnoBirthing, but 3hrs of very similar for £50 - lots of practitioners will also offer this, definitely worth asking.

Whomovedmychocolate: It is an option for most people, unless you live somewhere really remote? as I said in my previous post LOTS of practitioners offer either heavily discounted or free places (I teach for free for surestart for example). Most don't advertise they teach for free/less as they don't want to be taken advantage of! and I also personally object to teaching for free to somebody who is spending out £600 on a Bugaboo and says they can't afford HypnoBirthing, but if somebody wants to learn and they genuinely can't afford it them I'm always happy for them to pay what they think they can afford - or in cases of very low income to wipe fees totally. Most practitioners are mums themselves and most go into it because they really do want women to have wonderful births and are compelled to share their experiences with others, rather than a money making scheme. If anybody reading this thread is interested but really doesn't have the money it is ALWAYS worth contacting your local practitioner (www.hypnobirthing.co.uk for a list of registered ones).

Macaco: The sooner you start the longer you have to practice, if you are teaching yourself I would start now, remember to get your birth partner to read the book, practice together and discuss it lots though!

hypnobirthingmummy · 04/01/2008 17:24

Pregnabrain: Sorry I forgot re. timing, ideally you would start a course at around 26-30 weeks as you need time to digest and learn everything (usually a whole month to learn) and then time to practice after. I like people to start at 30wks personally, but I have taught people who started at 14 weeks and last month I taught somebody who didn't start until 37weeks (and had a great birth!).

Practice makes perfect though - so the sooner the better really.

mumofk · 04/01/2008 19:22

Hi, just to add another vote for doing a full course- I did one early December and cannot sing praises high enough. And the main reason I did it- last time round I found out how supportive my husband can be. This time around now he has a clear job to do. We both experienced hypnosis in the class, DH learned to control his back pain. Already, even before birth I'm convinced the £250 was a bargain- one on one hypnotherapy each for 12 hrs would cost a fortune, and we've learned techniques useful for the rest of our lives, not just birth. DH and I read Gowri Motha's book, and decided that reading a book,or listening to CDs wouldn't get us both working as a team effectively- the class sorted that out. I definately will need DHs support to stay relaxed, so need him as my support team. Oh yes, and DH was sceptical before the class. I was worried about concentrating for 2 days ( ours was a weekend course) but no problem, each round of hypnotherapy makes the class go quick, and you tell yourself how refreshed you'll feel when you 'wake up'.
I'm not in London, my course was run in Leeds. Try Googling tofind courses near you. Happy to share more but this is already a bit long!
Good luck with whatever techniques you choose to use.
mumofk

pregnabrain · 04/01/2008 22:06

Ok, I feel persuaded that I should investigate a course (assuming that dh will go for the idea).

In the meantime, I have borrowed a CD from a friend. Did one relaxation session last night and it was wonderful. Having stopped yoga since birth of dd, i'd forgotten how lovely it is to spend time focusing purely on relaxing your body.

I hate the idea of just picking someone at random, though. Anyone know of any good Hypnobirthing teachers in South East London?

Many thanks for all recommendations and advice.

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hypnobirthingmummy · 05/01/2008 10:03

Dany Baxter-Griffiths
Sidcup, Kent
02083 044104
07931 527005 cell
[email protected]
www.tums2mums.com

pregnabrain · 05/01/2008 23:07

Thank you! Will investigate - not sure how far away Sidcup is...

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Poohbah · 07/01/2008 19:16

I did the www.natalhypnotherapy.co.uk CD's. Gave birth, pain free, 6 hours, easy peasy. Would recommend them to anyone and do them religiously. No need to spend money on expensive course at all!

Partner also sceptical until Head midwife came in and said that the hypnobirthing was amazing and the really good midwife went on her break and only then did he switch off the football and step up to the mark!!

pregnabrain · 09/01/2008 18:43

Ooh thanks for the link. Am bidding on a CD on ebay now and have also contacted one of the course practitioners on the site you mentioned to see if I think a course would be worth it.

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bohemianbint · 09/01/2008 18:46

I did HypnoB, it was great.

But the sessions with the Hypnotherapist were invaluable, I don't think just reading the book and the cds would have the same effect.

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