Bang goes the theory - did anyone watch?

[AmandinePoulain]

They did a feature last night on rear facing car seats, it showed the neck stresses during forward facing and rear facing collisions (albeit on an adult). It went some way to explain why rear facing is safer but didn't really explain that ERF seats exist, and then at the end the presenter said that whilst parents would 'obviously be concerned' 'FF is still perfectly safe' .

I'm assuming it's on iplayer if anyone missed it.

It is your job and responsability to instruct them on how to fit and use the car seats you sell properly in their own car. Let them try to do it themselves afterwards with your instructions.

Reading the manuals is the parents´ own responsablity.

Isofix is easier in many cars. But God knows you have to dig really deep and spend a lot of time digging those things out of the upholstery in some cars.

I think it is irresponsable to refer to the Which tests as much as is the case here. We would see a whole lot more injuries and deaths if they were right every step of the way. Furthermore, the Britax Multi-tech has passed the Plus test rearfacing. It´s just not official because this seat can be used forward facing.

As I have told you before. We just don´t see serious injuries or deaths in children riding in these rearfacing seats.

So you refer to crash testing when it suits your argument and then anecdotal evidence when it doesn't.
So its the parents responsibility to read the instruction manual... er yes. But do not under estimate the ability of people to fit car seats incorrectly no matter how many times they have been shown supervised etc.
Isofix reduces the risk of incorrect fitting.. that's just common sense and you are talking complete rubbish if you think otherwise.

Plus test meassures the neckloads. No other rubbish involved in that.

How many times they have been shown, supervised etc.

Hmm that does say a lot about the sales persons.

isofix is easier - that we agree on. But to say that the results in the userfriendlyness section is "all that and the sole truth" is nonsense. They are and will remain based on personal openions. It certainly does not mean that no-one can install them correctly - far from. If you have no problem in that area, you can disregard those results.

I guess we will have to agree to disagree. I'm just not going to be convinced that people won't get it wrong.
I have to admit, I do have a lot of issues with the Which testing, particularly the combined isofix/belt routing results in 1,2+3 yet seats get seperate tests in Group 0 but that's for another day.
At least we are both in agreement that ERF is best in Group 1.
I think I will leave it there.

"We just don´t see serious injuries or deaths in children riding in these rearfacing seats."

Fair enough.

The sentence above is not homemade logic. I can assure you of that. I was told by someone who has worked in this field for several decades as a manufactoerer and retailer among others.