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when the teacher is a bully and retaliates

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elephantsarewonderful · 07/02/2021 07:39

Hello- difficult post here. My daughter (year9) has a drama teacher who has behaved badly over the last few years. This subject is compulsory until end of year 9. The teacher has favourites who adore her and is cruel to those she doesn't favour. Behaviours include:
Shouting and screaming at individuals in class
Pretending not to understand a child with a marked foreign accent
Making the children act out "abuse" (I find this appalling- what if a child has experienced abuse?!)
Making the new year 7 kids talk (alone, on stage, in front of the class) about their worst experience (my youngest (new in year8) had just lost her rabbits to a fox attack and was reduced to tears. I know some kids have lost a parent and I feel it is deeply inappropriate to dig for a child's worst experience)
Allowing no dispensation for a child with a disability (my older child had to wear a large awkward plastic body brace and requested not to stand on stage in front of everyone in the very first lesson- she was shouted down)
Sending older, favoured kids to send nasty messages like "teacher says you've been dropped from..." or "teacher's really cross with you and wants to see you" (this is classic "queen bee" behaviour)
Finding out a mother had complained then forming the class into a circle and demanding the child whose mother complained stand in the middle and explain themselves
Making children "explain" their surname to the class (we have a foreign surname, associated with a country that we do not know or belong to in terms of nationality or culture)
Making an example of a child in front of the class- usually on stage, alone, with a bright light in their face
Posting videos of the class- without asking permission and telling the kids that they'd better not tell their parents because that would spoil it for the rest and she'd know who the ones spoiling it would be

The list goes on, and on. She is a known problem in the community, however as I said- if she favours you then you'd be elevated to heights unimaginable. The parents of favoured kids would probably argue that she's a brilliant teacher.

My goal is to get my daughters through unscathed. I am scared to complain to the school after the incident in which she made the class stand in a circle and demand the child whose mother complained stand forward and explain themselves. My daughter (year9) would be happy for lockdown to continue in order to avoid this creep. I have a younger daughter (year8) who is better at avoiding the attacks (she has learned to be a sycophant in class and it gets her through) and I don't want to put her in the firing line. I'm tempted to arrange a "doctor's appointment" each time the drama class is on for my older daughter!
As I said I am afraid to talk to the school for fear of repercussions. My year 9 child has half a year left of this and my younger daughter has another year on top to get through, although she's coping better than her older sister. I'm losing sleep over this. I am upset that my kids have to deal with a bully for a teacher. Maybe i need to vent. Maybe I can't do anything more than hug my girls and console them when class is over.
What would you do?

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PamDenick · 07/02/2021 10:54

What is this nonsense?

There has been no school for at least two months so either

(a) you are not in the UK and we can't advise as we don't your country's OFSTED equivalent procedures
(b) it's taken you at least two months to address this(more probably since most practical drama lessons have been suspended for several months)

randomer · 07/02/2021 10:56

Is this a state school?

ArseInTheCoOpWindow · 07/02/2021 10:57

It’s is normal teaching to let children ‘pass’ on something they don’t feel comfortable doing in the U.K.

Are you abroad?

FrippEnos · 07/02/2021 10:58

@ArseInTheCoOpWindow

But why would a school employ a teacher who had been fired for misconduct?

That doesn’t happen.

Because sometimes they aren't fired, they are encouraged to leave and become someone else's problem.
ArseInTheCoOpWindow · 07/02/2021 10:58

True....

Boardeduplife · 07/02/2021 11:01

I would complain to the head, the board of governors, the local education authority and your mp. I would have thought it was a LADO safeguarding issue if she is making kids relive trauma. We had a teacher in high school like this, fortunately only for a year. I managed to stay under her radar but she was an absolute bitch. I ran into her years later as an adult and told her how vile she had been. She just stood there with her mouth wide open.

Stovetopespresso · 07/02/2021 11:06

also ask that you are not identified when the chat with the teacher happens, and tell them you will know if they have broken this confidentiality by whether or not your daughter is made to suffer in class.
its like whistlebliwing i think.
ypu could ask whether your daughter could be excused from the class due to her mh, they will say no obviously but it will give them pause for thought

JackieweaverhasALLtheauthority · 07/02/2021 11:06

MmmmmmmHmm

Seatime · 07/02/2021 11:16

This is a complex problem, because the teacher is retaliating against children in class. I think the advice to have a continous physio appointment is your best bet. If you complained and it fell on deaf ears, what is your other option? Start a war with a crazy person involving school unions or whatever? Will your child be out of there in June? My advice is get away from her, its an effective way to deal with bullies as an individual. Its not your responsibity to oust the teacher. It's positive that your daughter trusts you enough to discuss it, come up with a plan together with your child. You will make it through this together!

Biscuitsneeded · 07/02/2021 11:17

I did want to ask whether the bullying has been taking place in online lessons, in which case there might be a recording of it, or whether this all happened prior to Christmas - in which case I think you really should have acted then, because it sounds as if you and your daughter between you have been worrying about this ever since, and it may now seem even worse than it really is - without wishing to denigrate the seriousness of your allegations. When children are bullied by anyone they absolutely need their parents to believe them, defend them, take action if need be, but you need to be careful not to let your own upset predominate and make your child more anxious about it all than she needs to be. She needs to see her Mum is taking action on her behalf, not that Mum is worrying about how to get her and her sister through the next few months.

WestendVBroadway · 07/02/2021 11:20

My daughter also had issues with her drama teacher, she had definitely favourites. In my DDs year there were 2 GCSE drama classes, at the end of the year the teacher invited all of one class , plus one pupil from the other class out for meal to celebrate leaving school. She also was very manipulative, I can't say too much as it would be outing. The teacher called me into school to discuss an issue, she then blatantly lied to the Head and accused me of saying something inappropriate to her. Just be aware the the school may close ranks and support the teacher. Coincidentally a friend who had DC at another school also has issues with their drama teacher, I think some relish taking dramatic to another level.

TowandaForever · 07/02/2021 11:38

It saddens me that pupils and parents still aren't believed in regard to teachers behaviours.

In my experience the school will close rank and attack you if you complain. If you complain to the governors you have to go before a panel of staff and governors. This is designed to intimidate and prevent complaints.

I was threatened with being banned from the school site because they deemed I had emailed the school an unacceptable amount. My child had an ehcp and it was being ignored. I haven't set foot in the school since.

( I'm a former teacher btw).

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randomer · 07/02/2021 14:14

Where is Drama compulsory? I thought it got booted out years ago along with Sociology.

LolaSmiles · 07/02/2021 14:16

randomer
It's still taught at KS3 in schools that haven't narrowed their curriculum, then students can opt to drop it or take it to GCSE.

DalryPlace · 07/02/2021 14:58

School's complaints procedure, it will be on the website. Follow it using the schools other policies to support you.
Keeping Children Safe in Education
Child Protection Policy.
E safety
Safeguarding children is essential and will bring about the biggest response.

Also read the Equalities policy. Is there a breach?

OFSTED will pick up complaints when you have exhausted the schools complaints procedure. Procedure will be in more than one part, work through each to escalate, then you can refer to OFSTED.
Safeguarding breaches can trigger an inspection.

If you are complaining about the head, then this is straight to the chair of governors.

Advice assumes state maintained school, rather than independent or academy.

randomer · 07/02/2021 17:26

Where are these school which haven't narrowed their curriculum?

OhCaptain · 07/02/2021 17:32

I find it very hard to believe that this teacher is that bad and hasn’t had almost every single parent kicking up a storm.

Even if most kids are sycophants like your own dd, putting them on YouTube etc isn’t something that any school I know of would just allow to happen.

Hmm
ArseInTheCoOpWindow · 07/02/2021 17:41

Ours still has drama at KS3

ArseInTheCoOpWindow · 07/02/2021 17:43

😬I’m sort of struggling with believing this. I’ve never met a teacher like this in 25 years.....

LolaSmiles · 07/02/2021 17:43

Where are these school which haven't narrowed their curriculum?
Mine still has a range of subjects, as do many in my area. Some are offering Performing Arts at KS3 instead of Music and Drama as separate subjects, and some have Technology with rotating disciplines, but that is mainly due to cost saving. The ones that offer a narrow curriculum are ones that have been taken over by big chains, or have had low results so have shifted the focus on fewer subjects.

WoodpileHouse · 07/02/2021 18:05

Talk to the school. They won't act unless they know.
I will say though unless you are actually in the lessons yourself it's difficult to get an accurate picture. People put their own biases on to reports of what has happened in a lesson.

TillyTopper · 07/02/2021 18:14

Could you also try reporting to Ofsted? I don't know if that works or not.

Personally I'd put my kid first and change schools or home ed - that sounds utterly awful. I don't say that lightly I offered DS the chance to home ed when he was 15 yo and having a tough time.

WestendVBroadway · 07/02/2021 18:28

@ArseInTheCoOpWindow. I’m sort of struggling with believing this. I’ve never met a teacher like this in 25 years...
Well, good for you. Before anyone thinks I am teacher bashing I will add that I am a teacher, and not only has my own DD suffered I DO hear what goes on in the staff room!

ArseInTheCoOpWindow · 07/02/2021 18:31

Yeah so do l. All the time. I never hear anything like this.

I’m not the only one who’s a bit Hmm at this thread.