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tommee tippee anti colic bottles vs dr browns?

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duende · 11/10/2009 13:31

we are currently using the tommee tippee anti colic bottles for my 9 week old DS but he is still suffering horribly with wind. we screams during feeds and is in awful discomfort - painful to watch I was wondering if the dr browns bottles could be better, or do they work in the same way as the tommee tippee ones with the vent system? has anyone used both? I am desperate to help my baby

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facebookaddict · 11/10/2009 20:30

Duende - 1. try bottle suggestion from others

  1. get ears checked 3. insist on reflux test (you may solve before the 6 week wait is up but worth getting on list asap)

Also - have you done baby massage? You can do some tummy ones with legs up and legs bent across abdomen which really helped my DS.

duende · 11/10/2009 20:38

you have all been very helpful, thank you. it is very difficult when you're a first time mum and all hcp's keep telling you your baby has colic and will grow out of it :/

we will try the bottles and talk to the GP again about reflux.

facebookaddict - baby massage doesn't seem to help at the mo.

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facebookaddict · 11/10/2009 20:44

Don't forget the ears... if even a slight infection will be messing up the feeding!

Good luck and repost if you need support!

(And remember that even if DS seems to be in pain all the time, he will be fine long term and you are doing a great job! Mine is the most gorgeous 2yr old despite screaming for every waking moment for 5 months!)

duende · 11/10/2009 21:07

one more question regarding reflux.
if this was my DS's problem, would he struggle with every single feed? or could some feeds be better and others? I ask because when I do a dreamfeed at 11p.m. he doesn't cry and feeds well. would reflux not cause pain regardless of if he's awake or asleep/ half asleep when feeding?

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facebookaddict · 12/10/2009 08:20

Not sure....other mums might know. Mine was the same which is why I thought more about speed of milk flow (able to cope better when not gulping at night)

duende · 12/10/2009 09:03

facebookaddict, I have tried him with number 1 and number 2 teats and it doesn't seem to make any difference. once he's stopped screaming, he managed well with both.

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teatank · 12/10/2009 09:50

hi duende sorry about the late answer. i switched to doctor brown, aptimal and colief all at once so not sure which one worked. but it took about a week for all the excessive wind and vomiting to stop. it was like my crying baby had been replaced by a happy chappy. hope you have the same success

insertwittynicknameHERE · 12/10/2009 09:53

I used Dr Browns for DD2 (10wo) and they are, imo, fantastic. She does still get some wind occasionally but not a lot. When I started using them I noticed the difference pretty much straight away.

facebookaddict · 12/10/2009 10:23

So if not speed then definitely either excessive wind which Dr Brown's should fix, lactose intolerance, which change of formula should fix or reflux which drs have to fix!...
I hope it ends up as easy that, and best of luck....

duende · 12/10/2009 10:46

I'm off to pick up dr brown's from the post office. thanks again for your posts everyone.
facebookaddict, I will let you know how we get on. thanks

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Kirbo · 12/10/2009 11:23

Duende - my son had silent reflux but the feeds during the night were ok, still don't know to this day why that was but the feeds during the day were a nightmare. Baby Gaviscon worked but we tried everything (spent a fortune) and in the end it was a different doctor who diagnosed the reflux. So distressing seeing your little one upset when feeding and I used to dread feeding time but he got better at around 5 months when we started weaning him.

facebookaddict · 12/10/2009 11:31

The more I read and hear from non MN friends the more I am convinced that my DS had silent reflux but I had never heard of it and countless visits to drs and hvs over 5mths were unhelpful. As a first time mum you think that you are being a troublemaker when they send you away so many times with no solution. I started to wonder if it was normal and I was just complaining. Duende do persue this! I regret not doing so for DS as my first mat leave would have as enjoyable as my second if I had been able to leave the house or being in the company of others which was not possible when all waking hours were spent screaming!

duende · 12/10/2009 11:41

Kirbo, does gaviscon thiken the feed? I also wonder if it can be used alongside colief. I'm sorry you had to go through this as well.

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Kirbo · 12/10/2009 12:47

Duende I was breastfeeding so had to give the Gaviscon by syringe so not sure if it thickens it or not - sorry. It was horrible at the time and I swore that I would never have any more children as the experience left me so upset but a year and a half later we are thinking about TTC so it does pass but it's horrible at the time. I hope that you find something to help your little one soon.

mad4myboys · 12/10/2009 13:19

my ds2 is on neocate but when they tried gaviscon the milk he was on at the time did get thicker. In answer to the Q about drea,/night feeds generally their reflux is slightly better when they are asleep,half asleep as their bodies are more relaxed plus they dont drink as quick.

Just want to say on the reflux front, dont give up if gavscon doesnt work. both my ds's had/have various medicines. My ds2 has actually been to evelina childrens hosptoday as he has v v bad reflux and was in hosp few weeks ago for lots of tests. He as acid aswell as alkaline reflux. We've just been told to double his doseage....

mad4myboys · 12/10/2009 13:19

my ds2 is on neocate but when they tried gaviscon the milk he was on at the time did get thicker. In answer to the Q about drea,/night feeds generally their reflux is slightly better when they are asleep,half asleep as their bodies are more relaxed plus they dont drink as quick.

Just want to say on the reflux front, dont give up if gavscon doesnt work. both my ds's had/have various medicines. My ds2 has actually been to evelina childrens hosptoday as he has v v bad reflux and was in hosp few weeks ago for lots of tests. He as acid aswell as alkaline reflux. We've just been told to double his doseage....

facebookaddict · 12/10/2009 15:16

Kirbo - don't let it put you off... I was the same with DS 2 yrs ago (didn't know it was silent reflux at the time but was the WORST time of my life and after 5 mths of perpetual worrying about screaming child's health with no one to share experience of same with, I almost lost it mentally).... I've just had DD and she's a totally different kettle of fish, so much easier and behaves like babies are 'supposed' to...basically how I thought everyone else's was the first time. Don't let the experience deprive you of another lovely child. I am sure you'll get an angel this time!

facebookaddict · 12/10/2009 15:17

sorry by saying 'you'll get an angel' makes it sound like first child wasn't. What I mean is that you'll get an easier run....

Kirbo · 13/10/2009 11:19

Facebookaddict LOL my DS if far from an angel without the reflux (but he's great)! Not sure what I would do with a non-screaming, content baby

newspaperdelivery · 13/10/2009 11:42

Haven't read whole thread but just wanted to say that Gaviscon can be used with colief. All colief is is a bottle of extra enzyme - it starts off the breakdown of the lactase in the milk. This is on the idea that the baby is low in lactose at birth as our baboes are born immature in many ways. So there is no allergy or sensitivity in the baby, just an immaturity in the gut. This is why they 'grow out of it' as they mature.

Reflux is to do with acid leaking through the entrance of tummy and burning and causing pain.

Intolerance can be to milk protein or to lactose. The low lactose milks can be bought but the ones to help with protein intolerance have to be prescribed.

True allergy is different again, as it is an immune response with various symptoms.

Gaviscon changes the way the baby makes stomach acid, so it is treating indigestion essentially. It might make the milk gloopy but that is not it's job really. It turns to a gelly like stuff so it coats the tummy to work even better. It helps with reflux. If it is used religiously, and the baby is still symptomatic, ranitidine can be helpfull alongside it.

This group might be a help, especially finding your way to a diagnosis.

Dr Brown's are brilliant btw.

Am really at the idea babies have to loose weight to have any of these conditions. Mine never faltered in her weight gain [mainly as she was clamped to the boob 24/7 to help her stop screaming], but her poo was either pure acid or pure mucus. She is dairy intolerant and was a happy body withing 3 days of no dairy exposure.

Health Professionals lack knowledge in this complicated field [which I can accept and understand] and therefore resist the idea there can be diagnosis and help for these babies [which makes me see red].

facebookaddict · 13/10/2009 19:21

Wish I'd spoken to you before now newspaperdelivery - such good info.

The worst bit for me is now thinking that I never fixed his horrible pain (at the time my instinct told me it was horrible pain but I had no way to convince people who just thought I was an overanxious first time mum with a difficult baby). Thank god nature doesn't really process memory before 2/3yrs (or so they say). Certainly I am sure my boy is no way damaged long term but I am glad DD is not in same pain as it was an awful awful experience.

Heart goes out to you out there going through it now. Persue the diagnosis...

duende · 14/10/2009 10:45

newspaperdelivery - great info, thank you so much.

I thought I'd post regarding the bottles. Dr Brown bottles definitely do what they claim - reduce the wind. there are no air bubbles travelling back to the milk. Even though the tommee tippee bottles look very similar and are supposed to work in the same way, they don't. waste of money!

regarding my LO, we have been prescribed omeprazole. I will see how he gets on and will be talking to the gp again next week.
thank you everyone who posted, you have been very, very helpful.

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