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AUGUST Book of the Month - THE IMPROBABILITY OF LOVE: Join author HANNAH ROTHSCHILD for bookclub webchat on Monday 12 September, 8.30 - 9.30pm

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RachelMumsnet · 18/07/2016 17:58

The Improbability of Love was shortlisted for the Bailey's Prize and described by Lynn Barber as "a fast-paced imbroglio of skullduggery, dirty dealing, even murder" that "finishes with a sort of James Bond flourish".

We think Hannah Rothschild's brilliant satire about love, crime and the glitzy London art scene is perfectly placed as our August book of the month. Apply for a free copy now, devour over the summer and join us on 12th September to chat about the novel and put your questions to Hannah who will be joining us between 8.30 and 9.30pm.

Find out more about the book and apply for a free copy. We'll post on this discussion thread when the 50 have been selected next week.

AUGUST Book of the Month - THE IMPROBABILITY OF LOVE: Join author HANNAH ROTHSCHILD for bookclub webchat on Monday 12 September, 8.30 - 9.30pm
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HannahRothschild · 12/09/2016 20:33

@RachelMumsnet

We're delighted to welcome our bookclub guest this evening HANNAH ROTHSCHILD, author of the THE IMPROBABILITY OF LOVE, which was shortlisted for the Bailey's Prize for fiction and named winner of the Bollinger Everyman Wodehouse prize for Comic Fiction. As well as award winning author, Hannah is a filmmaker, company director and serves on boards of various trusts and museums, including The National Gallery and The Tate, both of which appear at various times in the novel.

Thank you so much for giving us your time tonight Hannah and big congratulations on such a dazzling novel which was, for me, a perfect summer read; gripping, enlightening and genuinely funny.

THANK YOU- AM VERY HAPPY TO BE HERE

We've got a few standard questions from Mumsnet HQ:

Which childhood book most inspired you?

I LOVED ANIMALS, PARTICULARLY HORSES SO READ BLACK BEAUTY AND ANY OTHER BOOKS. ALSO LOVED A GOOD READ SO THAT INCLUDED ENID BLYTON, DICK FRANCIS, AGATHA CHRISTIE AND LOTS OF OTHER BOOKS WHICH MY PARENTS 'BANNED'

What was the last book you gave someone as a gift?

I GAVE MY MOTHER ROSE TREMAIN'S GUSTAVE SONATA- A BOOK I WOULD GIVE NEARLY ANYONE.

What was the best book you read over the summer?

ROHINTON MISTRY'S 'A FINE BALANCE'- ABSOLUTELY BRILLIANT IF DEPRESSING

And finally - can you describe the room where you wrote The Improbability of Love?

I'M SITTING IN IT NOW. IT HAS TWO LARGE WINDOWS WHICH ARE ALMOST TOTALLY OBSCURED BY A WILLOW TREE. THIS SWISHES IN THE WIND AND IS INHABITED BY A FAMILY OF ACROBATIC SQUIRRELS

Over to you Hannah....

FoxInABox · 12/09/2016 20:36

I thought it was very brave and unique going with the painting as a narrator. I love the idea of giving a voice to something with such a story to tell, and such history- I wondered if this was part of the inspiration for giving the painting a voice?
Also, how much did you draw on characters you have met in the art world yourself? Where the characters very stereotypical of many you have met?

FernieB · 12/09/2016 20:39

Thanks for answering my questions Hannah.

The chapters narrated by the painting took me by surprise at first as they were completely at odds with the shenanigans of the characters. But I enjoyed them and found I couldn't wait for the next instalment of the paintings life. Where did this idea spring from?

HarrietMWelsch · 12/09/2016 20:41

Hi Hannah - really enjoyed the book and all the different character threads. To be honest, I wasn't entirely sure about 'Moi' to start with but definitely warmed to 'him' and felt that it was a good technique to move more fluidly between the other voices. My question is - was there a particular painting that inspired the imagined Improbability of Love?

starlight36 · 12/09/2016 20:42

What a wonderful novel - a real page-turner. My question for Hannah is do you think that your background as a film director and script writer influences your writing style? I'm asking this as the chapters where the picture was the narrator appeared had a cinematic feel to me and I felt that the novel would work well on either the small or big screen.

Rainer · 12/09/2016 20:43

I'm half way through the book and I am enjoying it. I find the main character a little less defined than some of the others but perhaps she will stand out more further on. I also find the picture narrative a bit hard to take, probably as much that the character isn't hugely likeable.

Characters shouldn't have to be likeable though, and I suspect it is more to do with where I am in the book more than anything else. I am enjoying the read. It arrived too late for me hols unfortunately so it takes a lot for me to read at home so it's strong testament that I've stuck with it!

FernieB · 12/09/2016 20:45

Also I know very little about the art world - for me, a great picture is one I'd like to hang on my wall and look at every day. For many characters in the book art is a commodity, to be used as a currency or a show of wealth. There doesn't seem to be much love for the art, more for its monetary/social value. Is this your experience of the art world?

RachelMumsnet · 12/09/2016 20:46

There was a discussion this week on the mumsnet forum in relation to an article in The Guardian by Lionel Shriver who said that authors should only write about things they have experienced. Do you agree with this? The Improbability of Love is clearly set in a world you know. Would you consider writing a novel about something you are not familiar with?

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HannahRothschild · 12/09/2016 20:48

@RachelMumsnet

It's great to see so many of you enjoyed the book over the summer as much as we did.

The webchat with author Hannah Rothschild and book discussion evening is looming! Please do join us on Monday evening between 8.30 and 9.30pm when you'll have chance to discuss the books with other bookclubbers and also put your questions to Hannah. We thought it would be useful and interesting to post up a few questions for discussion which have been supplied to us from Bloomsbury, Hannah's publisher. Feel free to ask whatever you like but we thought this may be helpful food for thought:

How familiar were you with the art world before reading this novel? Did your perception of the business change as you read it?

  • I grew up in that world- my first holiday jobs and internships were for a museum and an art dealer. It seemed to have everything- intrigue, beauty and a dash of skullduggery. My thoughts about it have not changed much- i still find it alluring and mysterious.

The voice of The Improbability of Love shifts between sections. How does the oscillation between the removed third-person narrative and the ‘voice’ of the painting contribute to the story’s progress? What does the painting’s voice reveal to readers? How would you characterise ‘him’?

  • This is a complicated question with a complicated answer. I invented a talking picture for several reasons. I always wanted a picture to talk and not just hang around looking interesting. so in some ways its narrative is a fullfillment of a fantasy. I also wanted an unobjective observer. I wanted a comic voice but one that had insight and knowledge. I think 'he' is a desperately snobbish, cranky, hilarious old man who has fogotten how to speak his native tongue and rabbits on in franglais.

Art represents different things to different characters in the novel. Discuss the tension between loving art for its own sake and loving art for its monetary value. What does the sudden public interest in ‘The Improbability of Love’ show us about the relationship between desire and value?

-One of the most important themes of the book is value- how do we value a work of art- is it for love, for money, for its history, for its snob appeal, for what it represents or a combination of these things and more. I think you can love art for its own sake but also be interested in other aspects.

How would you describe Annie’s personality at the beginning of The Improbability of Love? How does it shift over the course of the novel?

-Annie starts the book as a rather downtrodden woman, abandoned by her lover, caught in a difficult relationship with her mother who finds the strength from somewhere to pursue a dream. She buys the painting by mistake, on a whim and although she knows nothing about art, proving its authenticity restores her faith in herself.

Deception and secrecy are found throughout the plotlines of The Improbability of Love. Which characters use deception to get ahead? Which people demonstrate the most authentic versions of themselves to the world? Which secrets are most surprising?

  • This question requires an essay of an answer! And i dont want to give too much away to anyone who hasnt read it. Let's just say that the art world is often built on smoke and mirrors and that many who work there have got used to this kind of thing.

Viewing a painting is a highly subjective experience, informed both by emotion and intellect. What initially attracts Annie to ‘The Improbability of Love’? How does her perception of the painting change over the course of the novel?

  • Annie sees the picture through her lover's eyes- she buys it for him as it reminds her of their first meeting. He stands her up and she's left with a picture she doesnt like and cost her her last few pounds. As you can imagine, she doesnt like the picture much at that point. She tries to offload it quickly but fails. Then as she gets to know it better, she starts to fall in love with it. in many ways, Annie is the only person in the book who really loves the work of art for what it is.

The dinner party scenes within the novel describe a world of unfettered lavishness. How do these scenes contrast with Annie’s day-to-day life? Discuss the concepts of ‘consumption’ and ‘excess’ as depicted throughout The Improbability of Love.

  • A lot of the Art World is built on conspicuous consumption and it was great fun to write those scenes particularly as Annie is poor and unable to afford any fripperies. One theme about the art world is how pictures have become a commodity and for many (but not all by any means) pictures represent cash. I wanted to contrast those who really love works of art for their own sake and those who are caught up in the business of art.

How would you characterise Annie’s relationship with her mother? What information about their shared history helped shape your understanding of Annie’s views on love?

  • Anne and her mother have a co-dependent relationship exacerbated by Evie's alcoholism. Evie is addicted to the drink and Annie, since a young age, has been addicted to getting her mother to stop drinking. Clearly this important relationship has had an effect on Annie's view of love

Although it deals with serious subject matter at its heart, The Improbability of Love is a comic novel. Discuss how Hannah Rothschild achieves her comic effects. Are there other satirical writers you would compare her to?

HannahRothschild · 12/09/2016 20:51

@RachelMumsnet

We're delighted to welcome our bookclub guest this evening HANNAH ROTHSCHILD, author of the THE IMPROBABILITY OF LOVE, which was shortlisted for the Bailey's Prize for fiction and named winner of the Bollinger Everyman Wodehouse prize for Comic Fiction. As well as award winning author, Hannah is a filmmaker, company director and serves on boards of various trusts and museums, including The National Gallery and The Tate, both of which appear at various times in the novel.

Thank you so much for giving us your time tonight Hannah and big congratulations on such a dazzling novel which was, for me, a perfect summer read; gripping, enlightening and genuinely funny.

We've got a few standard questions from Mumsnet HQ:

Which childhood book most inspired you?

What was the last book you gave someone as a gift?

What was the best book you read over the summer?

And finally - can you describe the room where you wrote The Improbability of Love?

Over to you Hannah....

@FoxInABox

I thought it was very brave and unique going with the painting as a narrator. I love the idea of giving a voice to something with such a story to tell, and such history- I wondered if this was part of the inspiration for giving the painting a voice? Also, how much did you draw on characters you have met in the art world yourself? Where the characters very stereotypical of many you have met?

thank you FoxInABox- so glad you liked the paintings voice. I def wanted the picture to tell its story- so many pictures have fascinating histories, have hung in great palaces, been owned by interesting people that i wanted to explore this idea.

the characters were directly inspired by people i know in the art world but with one exception not based on anyone in particular

HannahRothschild · 12/09/2016 20:52

@FernieB

Thanks for answering my questions Hannah.

The chapters narrated by the painting took me by surprise at first as they were completely at odds with the shenanigans of the characters. But I enjoyed them and found I couldn't wait for the next instalment of the paintings life. Where did this idea spring from?

Hi FernieB- this idea came from my childhood when i was dragged (literally) around museums by my parents. to overcome boredom I would make up stories for the pictures to tell me.

HannahRothschild · 12/09/2016 20:54

@HarrietMWelsch

Hi Hannah - really enjoyed the book and all the different character threads. To be honest, I wasn't entirely sure about 'Moi' to start with but definitely warmed to 'him' and felt that it was a good technique to move more fluidly between the other voices. My question is - was there a particular painting that inspired the imagined Improbability of Love?

Hi HarrietMWelsch so glad that you enjoyed the book- thank you.
there wasnt a particular painting but I did come face to face with a Watteau in the Louvre when i was about 16. It's called Pierrot or Giles and it was the saddest, loneliest looking clown I had ever seen. At that time (I was on an exchange) i felt exactly the same way and was very relieved that another person understood how i felt

HarrietMWelsch · 12/09/2016 20:55

Another question from me - I find interesting that there's been a few books out about paintings in the last couple of years - Ali Smith's How To Be Both, The Goldfinch by Donna Tartt, Jessie Burton's latest, The Muse as well as yours of course. Do you think there's a reason for this - are we becoming more interested in the art world and all its narrative potential?

HannahRothschild · 12/09/2016 20:56

@RachelMumsnet

There was a discussion this week on the mumsnet forum in relation to an article in The Guardian by Lionel Shriver who said that authors should only write about things they have experienced. Do you agree with this? The Improbability of Love is clearly set in a world you know. Would you consider writing a novel about something you are not familiar with?

good question RachelMumsnet. I think its much easier to write about what you know about. In my experience if I try and impersonate an idea or a person it can ring false. That said there are a great many great writers who seem to write about things they could not possibly have experienced. I love the work of Rose Tremain for example- she switches from a court musician in Denmark to a strawberry picker in contemporary England to a Restoration prince to a gay hotelier with apparent ease.

HannahRothschild · 12/09/2016 20:58

@HarrietMWelsch

Another question from me - I find interesting that there's been a few books out about paintings in the last couple of years - Ali Smith's How To Be Both, The Goldfinch by Donna Tartt, Jessie Burton's latest, The Muse as well as yours of course. Do you think there's a reason for this - are we becoming more interested in the art world and all its narrative potential?

yes HarrietMWelsch there has been a rash of books. My main surprise is why there arent more- it's a world that has everything- intrigue, glamour, skullduggery, money, poverty, fame- and all in a small arena.

RachelMumsnet · 12/09/2016 21:00

So pleased to see you were 'dragged around galleries' as a child. I took my kids/teens to the Uffizi Gallery last summer and I think we were contenders for going round in world record speed. They enjoyed it as long as we kept moving! Interestingly my daughter then spent ages in the shop and her room is now adorned with pictures we saw! Any tips on taking kids to galleries/ getting them interested in art?

Also can you recommend any exhibitions on at the moment or coming up?

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HannahRothschild · 12/09/2016 21:00

@FernieB

Also I know very little about the art world - for me, a great picture is one I'd like to hang on my wall and look at every day. For many characters in the book art is a commodity, to be used as a currency or a show of wealth. There doesn't seem to be much love for the art, more for its monetary/social value. Is this your experience of the art world?

I think i said this elsewhere in a different way but i think people like art for many reasons and this of course is one of the books themes. Just as you have incredibly wealthy people in the art world, there are also impoverished types who are in it for the love of the subject. But there are also some very wealthy people who adore art and end up giving their collections to museums in acts of genuine altruism.

FoxInABox · 12/09/2016 21:00

Thank you for answering my questions Hannah. I agree wholeheartedly with your answer to Lionel Shrivers comment, you can certainly see when a writer has a great knowledge of their topic, and it adds to the richness and believability of the story, but I don't believe we wouldn't have such far ranging genres if authors only wrote about topics they knew well.

sjonlegs · 12/09/2016 21:01

I don't know where the 'webchat' is but if Hannah is reading this I just want to say what a wonderful read. I was thrilled, enlightened, empathetic and got great enjoyment from this book. I have to say it was 'unputdownable!'

FernieB · 12/09/2016 21:04

You're a busy person - how did you find time to write? Are you one of those writers who's up with the lark and written a few chapters before breakfast?

HannahRothschild · 12/09/2016 21:04

@RachelMumsnet

So pleased to see you were 'dragged around galleries' as a child. I took my kids/teens to the Uffizi Gallery last summer and I think we were contenders for going round in world record speed. They enjoyed it as long as we kept moving! Interestingly my daughter then spent ages in the shop and her room is now adorned with pictures we saw! Any tips on taking kids to galleries/ getting them interested in art?

Also can you recommend any exhibitions on at the moment or coming up?

Like my parents I dragged my own kids around museums and they now go entirely voluntarily! I think its worth it in spite of many complaints.

at the moment there are some interesting shows- I like William Egglestone at the NPG. Georgia O Keefe at Tate. Stubbs and the Wild at the Holbourne. Colour and Vision at the NHM. The National Gallery has a great Caravaggio show about to open. But i would also always always recommend looking at the permanent collections which have such a wealth of amazing works and all free

RachelMumsnet · 12/09/2016 21:04

@sjonlegs

I don't know where the 'webchat' is but if Hannah is reading this I just want to say what a wonderful read. I was thrilled, enlightened, empathetic and got great enjoyment from this book. I have to say it was 'unputdownable!'

Hi sjonlegs, the webchat is taking place on this discussion thread. Really pleased to hear you enjoyed the book and feel free to post a question to Hannah Rothschild who will pick it up here and answer.

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HannahRothschild · 12/09/2016 21:05

@sjonlegs

I don't know where the 'webchat' is but if Hannah is reading this I just want to say what a wonderful read. I was thrilled, enlightened, empathetic and got great enjoyment from this book. I have to say it was 'unputdownable!'

sjonlegs Thank you so much- I am genuinely thrilled by your comments.

HannahRothschild · 12/09/2016 21:05

@FernieB

You're a busy person - how did you find time to write? Are you one of those writers who's up with the lark and written a few chapters before breakfast?

FernieB i think you can always make time for something if you really love it and are desperate enough

JaneBand118 · 12/09/2016 21:08

Hi Hannah- great that you were shortlisted for the Baileys Prize for fiction. How big a difference did this make to the interest in the book? Do you think it's important to have a women's prize for fiction?

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