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Come and chat to Costa Prize winner Nathan Filer about THE SHOCK OF THE FALL on Tue 24 June, 9-10pm

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TillyBookClub · 19/05/2014 11:14

Nathan Filer's extraordinary debut, The Shock of the Fall, beat off strong competition to scoop the 2013 Costa prize, and has been described as the literary equivalent of Silver Linings Playbook.

Filer was a mental health nurse when he enrolled on a Creative Writing MA, and the result is a sharp, engaging and enlightening novel about (among other things), living with schizophrenia. Matthew, the narrator, is an astonishingly convincing character who is dark, funny and articulate. He also believes he can talk to his dead brother. He pieces together his family's story, including a shocking accident and the aftermath of grief and isolation, whilst slowly coming to a coherent understanding of the events. Matthew is an outstanding creation, with an entirely authentic voice, and a haunting presence that lingers after the book has ended.

You can find out more at our book of the month page and you can follow Nathan on Twitter @nathanfiler

HarperCollins have 50 free copies to give to Mumsnetters – to claim yours please go to our book of the month page and fill in your details. We'll post here when all the copies have gone.

We are delighted that Nathan will be joining us to discuss The Shock of the Fall, his inspiration and his writing life on Tuesday 24 June, 9-10pm. So please feel free to discuss the book here throughout the month, pop up any advance questions and we hope to see you here on 24 June.

Come and chat to Costa Prize winner Nathan Filer about THE SHOCK OF THE FALL on Tue 24 June, 9-10pm
Come and chat to Costa Prize winner Nathan Filer about THE SHOCK OF THE FALL on Tue 24 June, 9-10pm
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NathanFiler · 24/06/2014 21:56

@Mignonette

I had a lot of service users who were extremely well read and took charge of the books available on the unit and creative writing has always been a very popular choice of activity for people who are well enough to participate.

Did you ever engage in this with your clients/service users?


Hi there,

I get asked that quite often and its a regret of mine that I didn't really. I was working on acute wards, and broadly speaking I don't think we did enough therapeutic work at all. So much of acute nursing seems to be about medication management.

Of course there are huge issues with resources, and right now things are moving in the wrong direction. I've written a bit more about this here: www.theguardian.com/society/2014/jan/25/nathan-filer-mental-health-care-where-did-it-go-wrong
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NathanFiler · 24/06/2014 21:57

@NathanFiler

[quote Mignonette]
I had a lot of service users who were extremely well read and took charge of the books available on the unit and creative writing has always been a very popular choice of activity for people who are well enough to participate.

Did you ever engage in this with your clients/service users?


Hi there,

I get asked that quite often and its a regret of mine that I didn't really. I was working on acute wards, and broadly speaking I don't think we did enough therapeutic work at all. So much of acute nursing seems to be about medication management.

Of course there are huge issues with resources, and right now things are moving in the wrong direction. I've written a bit more about this here: www.theguardian.com/society/2014/jan/25/nathan-filer-mental-health-care-where-did-it-go-wrong[/quote]

What area do you work in?
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NathanFiler · 24/06/2014 22:00

@bookworm31

Hi Nathan, absolutely loved your book.

My question is how important was it that Matthew undergoes a kind of catharsis at the end of the novel? Do you think this idea of a memorial is important in tackling grief? How important do you think writing and keeping a memoir is to someone in such a situation?


This is a very good question. I think memorial (in its many forms) can be hugely important, and clearly it is for Matthew, who after ten years had still never had the chance to say goodbye.

All the time I was writing the novel I never knew how I would end it. So when Annabelle mentioned the memorial she had for her mother I had a bit of a eureka moment. I'm so pleased that I got to write it. It felt important to me, anyway.
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Mignonette · 24/06/2014 22:01

Yes I read that article- boy did it speak the truth.

I agree with your comments about acute units. The Nurses on the last one I worked on tended to leave the therapeutic activities to the OT's and Physios which was such a shame because when you think about it, small group work is pretty cost effective. And it reduces the need for unnecessary prn medication. At least it did on our unit.

Maybe one day (when we get a decent budget and you have some time - wishful thinking) you could try to devise a creative writing 'syllabus' for different units to use with your professional knowledge informing the development.

We'd love that.

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NathanFiler · 24/06/2014 22:02

@NathanFiler

[quote bookworm31]
Hi Nathan, absolutely loved your book.

My question is how important was it that Matthew undergoes a kind of catharsis at the end of the novel? Do you think this idea of a memorial is important in tackling grief? How important do you think writing and keeping a memoir is to someone in such a situation?


This is a very good question. I think memorial (in its many forms) can be hugely important, and clearly it is for Matthew, who after ten years had still never had the chance to say goodbye.

All the time I was writing the novel I never knew how I would end it. So when Annabelle mentioned the memorial she had for her mother I had a bit of a eureka moment. I'm so pleased that I got to write it. It felt important to me, anyway.[/quote]

Oh, and I think the act of writing can be so very helpful too. For all of us, really. I keep a gratitude diary and would advice anyone to do so...
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Mignonette · 24/06/2014 22:02

I am now taking a career break although I have to keep up with CPD. I have worked across acute, subs, forensic and community. Bit of a jack of all trades :)

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NathanFiler · 24/06/2014 22:02

@NathanFiler

[quote NathanFiler]
[quote bookworm31]
Hi Nathan, absolutely loved your book.

My question is how important was it that Matthew undergoes a kind of catharsis at the end of the novel? Do you think this idea of a memorial is important in tackling grief? How important do you think writing and keeping a memoir is to someone in such a situation?


This is a very good question. I think memorial (in its many forms) can be hugely important, and clearly it is for Matthew, who after ten years had still never had the chance to say goodbye.

All the time I was writing the novel I never knew how I would end it. So when Annabelle mentioned the memorial she had for her mother I had a bit of a eureka moment. I'm so pleased that I got to write it. It felt important to me, anyway.[/quote]

Oh, and I think the act of writing can be so very helpful too. For all of us, really. I keep a gratitude diary and would advice anyone to do so...[/quote]

advise, even (I'm getting tired now... sorry)
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NathanFiler · 24/06/2014 22:04

@RachelMumsnet

Another question (if I may): you won the Costa with your first ever novel - what an amazing achievement but does that now put huge pressure on you for your next novel? We do a 'debut author bookclub' slot on Mumsnet and I often think we should do a 'second novel bookclub' slot as it must be so much harder for writers to get interest in their second novels (hope that isn't too depressing a question!)


Ha. What's that symbol you use on here? Is it a biscuit?
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TillyBookClub · 24/06/2014 22:04

We've got to wrap it up there - a completely fascinating and brilliant discussion, thank you to everyone for all their comments.

Nathan, you have been such a pro at this, and so thoughtful and honest with your answers. Thank you very very much for all your time and energy. Good luck with your next project. I am fully expecting to see a pic of you clutching that golden faced Bafta statuette in the very near future...

And many thanks again for a wonderful book. It definitely deserves a place on the older children's bookshelf, above the Nesbit and Milne. And Flat Stanley.

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NathanFiler · 24/06/2014 22:05

@TillyBookClub

We've got to wrap it up there - a completely fascinating and brilliant discussion, thank you to everyone for all their comments.

Nathan, you have been such a pro at this, and so thoughtful and honest with your answers. Thank you very very much for all your time and energy. Good luck with your next project. I am fully expecting to see a pic of you clutching that golden faced Bafta statuette in the very near future...

And many thanks again for a wonderful book. It definitely deserves a place on the older children's bookshelf, above the Nesbit and Milne. And Flat Stanley.


Thanks Tilly. Thanks everyone. It has been a real pleasure.

Goodnight :)
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Dunlurking · 24/06/2014 22:07

Thank you very much for doing this webchat. I've now had a chance to read your Guardian article as well as the Writers' and Artists' yearbook articles. Brilliant both!

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Mignonette · 24/06/2014 22:09

Thank you so much Nathan

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Andrews55 · 08/07/2014 10:08

Thank you so much for my copy of the book. Once I started reading, I found it difficult to put down. A stunning piece of writing on a very tough and painful subject. I will be recommending this book to my family, friends and neighbours!

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