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midhyp66 · 11/03/2008 02:44

Hi all,
First off i am a hypnobirthing practitioner BUT im not selling. I really would like to know what you guys think of the title "hypnobirthing",
what kind of images does it conjure up?
does it sound like something just for middle class home birth women?
does the Hypno part sound too airy fairy?
Im keen to see this on the nhs and have thought the only way im gonna achieve this is if i offer the hospital free classes for women (obviously not indefinately) but i want to attract all sorts, young, old, single parents, poor parents, rich parents, pink, yellow and green parents.
what would make you interested in hypnobirthing?
i know it works ( have 3 kids, 1 awful, 1 painful, i hypnobirth) but its just trying to get others to listen not even sign up.
Cheers

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mrsmacaroni · 31/05/2008 18:14

I'm sorry you had such a negative experience. I know of practitioners that have qualified in Mongan and then not used it because of the way the programme is designed. Ii agree with you Jive Girl- I prefer to use either hypnosis for birth or a well tailored relaxation preparation programme more closely associated with conscious birth.

Mongan claims that around 25% of mums have pain free births, but for those that have done HB and then experience some pain are sometimes more shocked because they are unprepared for any sort of pain, as are the dads. Hypnosis for birth is great and there are other ways of doing it which focus on the mind and body connection.

It's a difficult line to tread though - because if women have completely let go of fear and anxiety and are totally relaxed they can have great experiences. By discussing pain you are suggesting pain which then means fear....

I used hypnosis for birth and had a "special circumstance" but came out of it feeling empowered and in control-but I didn't need to go on an hb course for that.

I have taught HB Mongan method, but women come and ask for it -they don't know what else is out there. It would be great to see more women become aware of the different options and find something that is the right course and suits their beliefs and approaches to birth.

hypnosis · 20/06/2008 11:33

I totally agree with you hypnobirthingdoula, from one practitioner to another there is no price for the birth that you want and deserve. Us women were given the uterus for a reason, to do the job of birthing.... If you take fear away from the situation and let your body do what it was created for then it will work! Let that uterus do it's wonderful job.

maggiebhowell · 17/09/2008 22:45

As the founder of Natal Hypnotherapy I thought it would be useful to add in my thoughts on the differences. As I have not done a Hypnobirthing course I can not compare it exactly, I can only explain what we do.

I started Natal Hypnotherapy here in the UK 8 years ago with the Natal Hypnotherapy CDs and then the courses (started 6 years ago around the same time that HypnoBirthing came to the UK). The approach is very much about building a mum's confidence and trust in her ability to give birth. It is not at all about promising a pain free, perfect birth - it is more about helping couples to overcome fear, increasing your belief and feeling positive which in turn has been proven to help women have a better birth.

In addition the approach is based on helping mums to give birth in the UK maternity system and to work with the medical team to get the best outcome for the mum. I have trained hundreds of midwives around the UK and am constantly learning from them, so that our courses are adapted to fit with current research. In addition we are supported by over 2000 midwives and antenatal teachers who regularly ask for brochures on Natal Hypnptherapy.

Our courses are held over 2 days, over 4 sessions or as one to one sessions fitting in around the couples schedule, giving couples the maximum choice.

As each birth is unique and couples want different things, the content of our courses and the scripts we use are tailored to each couple rather than using fixed scripts so that each couple can individualise their hypnosis and relaxation techniques.

We do not expect a couple or their attendant midwives to change their language or use different words eg "surge" intstead of contraction. We teach couples to build the best rapport with midwives, as we know that a good relationship with a midwife can make all the difference.

We get continuous feedback from the mums who attend our courses and we know that the birth outcomes are far better than the national average - the c-section rate of course attendees is around 10% compared the the national average of 23%. However more importantly than that, 98% of our mums feel that they have really benefitted from using Natal Hypnotherapy.

Of course we also have the stand alone CDs which many women on mumsnet use and get great benefit from them. Over 20,000 women have now used them and again their feedback shows they have a really positve effect. My goal is for all women to have the ability to benefit from Natal Hypnotherapy - We have a recylcing scheme with Sure start so women who have finished with the CDs donate them back to us and we send them on to Surestart to give to mums who may not be able to afford them.

There are several approaches of Hypnosis to Childbirth and they are all growing in popularity which is great. The more women use hypnosis for birth the more the word will spread that women can do something positive about their birth preparation and hopefully, women will become less and less frightened about birth.

Hope that helps clarify what Natal Hypnotherapy is all about.

Kateykins · 18/09/2008 16:21

I'm 20 weeks and interested in doing a hypnobirthing course in Nov/Dec. Can anyone recommend a course somewhere near Ealing/Chiswick/Shepherd's Bush/Acton? Thanks!

Olipop · 18/09/2008 16:30

Maggie - you hypnobirthed me to sleep last night!!!!!!! I used Natal hypnotherapy with my first born and really liked it (it calmed a terrified first timer). I'm using it again with DC2. My DH (who is a bit of a new earthy cynic) used to call it 'Hippo Birthing' but actually quite liked listening to it at night too.

I know what you mean about the term 'hypno birthing' having airy fairy type reactions from people but I recommend it to every pregnant lady I meet.

As was mentioned earlier, I don't think you can really change the name as if people are interested, that is what they will look for. Good luck in bringing it into the mainstream. I think it is so beneficial!

ajm200 · 18/09/2008 16:43

I'm doing the American Hynobabies course this time and did natal hypnobirthing last time. The titles do put people off as it sounds a bit new age. People look at us like we are freaks at times others just laugh. Also had a bit of scorn from some midwives, comments like 'Oh yeah, I delivered a few hynobirthing mums.. they've all had epidurals' and similar.

The American course has many more 'tools' to use than the natal hypnobirthing course but is very americanised.

I must admit that we may not tell the midwife who delivers our baby initally..

maggiebhowell · 19/09/2008 11:58

Glad you enjoy the CDs Olipop, altough technically the NH CDs would not Hypnobirth you to sleep! Confusion reigns!!

KateyKins - Re doing a course in West London we have a great pracittioner running courses in Chiswick - her name is Emma Gunn. You can check out her profile at www.natalhypnotherapy.co.uk.

mjvesuvio · 19/09/2008 16:35

To the OP, I think a big problem you may have with using the term "hypnobirthing" is that the name is already a registered trade mark by the Mongan people. I'm not a UK lawyer, but in the US, you could get in a pickle for using someone else's trademark this way.

mjvesuvio · 19/09/2008 16:35

To the OP, I think a big problem you may have with using the term "hypnobirthing" is that the name is already a registered trade mark by the Mongan people. I'm not a UK lawyer, but in the US, you could get in a pickle for using someone else's trademark this way.

janephilips · 25/09/2008 17:05

Technically HypnoBirthing is only a registered trademark in the US when there is a capital H and B - however it is not a registered trademark in the UK as it got turned down by the UK register.

Holdol · 30/09/2008 14:20

Ooh have been trying to get hold of the hypnobabies course but only seems to be available in US. How did you get hold of it in UK?

georgiemum · 30/09/2008 14:28

Can I be a bit pedantic? No? OK will anyway...

'HypnoBirthing' is the term copyrighted by Marie Mongan and is a course that takes 12 hours and covers a range or topics - hypnosis, visualisation, practical stuff (diet, exercise etc), relaxation methods... as well as some hypnosis therapy.

There are some other courses who call themselves hypnobirthing but are different. The HB premis is that pain in not necessarily a part of childbirth, whereas some of the other courses assume that there will be pain and teach you how to use your bodys natural anaesthesia by hypnosis.

I'd advise anyone to contact the HB Institute or a regulating body such as the BSCH if you are looking to use hypnosis during childbirth and speak to the practitioner at length before signing up for a course.

Phew. That was a long one.

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