August 2013 - Part 4 - Half way there already!

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Old thread: www.mumsnet.com/Talk/antenatal_clubs/1678178-August-2013-Part-3-Adventures-in-the-second-trimester

Stats thread: www.mumsnet.com/Talk/antenatal_clubs/1655004-Due-August-2013-Stats-Thread

waves I'm starting to get sore ribs, feels like something's stuck up under them. Gets a bit better when I walk around. Baby can't be that high up just yet can it?! Don't be afraid to ask for help with the cleaning, you're doing so well thus far, don't make yourself worse.

Gerty my lists are driving DH up the wall! Every day I seem to come home from work with a new list. Todays lunch time effort is a list of furniture places to try this weekend to find a new wardrobe.

Gary thanks for that link. I want to try and sling carry as much as possible but I'm wary of buying one before baby is here. Planning on going to the sling library once baby is here and trying a few out. You can hire them for 2 weeks to test them out as well which saves spending a fortune for it to be wrong.

Physio tomorrow, yay!

25+4

All this talk of lists is making me want to write one. Must resist!!!

My MW definitely said the baby is high up now, and that is why my ribs hurt. I have to keep stretching with my back bent backwards if that makes sense?

I've checked out natural mamas now Gary - thanks for that. Looks like a super forum. The lady who will be my doula has a kind of "informal" sling library, so I'll be hoping for some help from her once the baby arrives.

Half an hour til I get the DCs from school, then we have a friend and her DCs coming round. Sun is still shining brightly so we can all chill out in the garden. Well, the grown ups can whilst the children tear about and use lots of energy (I hope)

Next week my plan is to reconsider childcare options. Day nursery for the baby plus after school club for the DCs is going to be a bit too expensive and logistically difficult by myself, so am thinking about looking for a nanny. Unless I get miraculously better, my ML will kick in when I am 34 weeks, reducing the time at home with the baby, so it may be as early as mid November that I have to go back to work

Does anyone have any top tips on good baby monitors? not that I am surreptitiously writing a list now, ohhhhh no, not me

Oh, and 27 + 2 - I'm nearly in the third trimester!!!

For baby monitors get a digital one. Our tommee tippee analogue one was awful. We have a tommee tippee digital now which is miles better. We've only just stopped using it for DS. I don't know how well the sensor pad works on the one we have as we didn't use it. I doubt you'll be using it if cosleeping either so you may be able to buy one without a sensor :)

Err... 23+0. I think.

No nesting here whatsoever Gerty, quite the opposite, am normally houseproud but this week I really can't get motivated to do anything but get up, go to work, come home, whack somethign on for tea. Looking around my living room just now and it's so bad :(
No nursery for us either, we have a one bedroomed cottage and aren't going to be looking to move for a year or so, but the baby would have been in with us anyway for probably that long.

Waves you sound really upbeat today, it's fab! What clothies have you got? I'm going to a Nappucino next week and apparently will get a free bucket with a couple of newborn sized fluffs in Re Ribs, not pain from them spreading but just tight and uncomfortable as everything is squashed up there.

baby has moved about again so movements are a lot gentler, hence a panicking me taking to bed to lie down on my left side to count ten movements before calling the MAU - then of course it went mad

Digital monitors, my DD uses the BT one where the base unit is some kind of muscial light projector thing, so two things in one really.

10 kicks??? Should i be counting?? She has had a couple days of significantly less movement than i have got used to but then i have been run down and tired so just put it down to that really.. .

I think my blood pressure has gone funky though as keep getting nose bleeds...waking up in night with them its gross!!

Oh yuk to nose bleeds babyh

I'm definitely feeling a bit more upbeat, and had a super time with my friend who arrived with a beautiful hamper of goodies to cheer me up. They stayed til 7, all the children got on so well that we could just natter away.

Thanks for the baby monitor tips, and glad I'm not the only own without a nursery. I'm not exactly counting the kicks, never sure if you are meant to count individual ones or episodes of kicking

Anyway, I'm in bed, laying still because I am desperate to have a night off being sick, and am rather shattered too.

Sounds like a good evening waves!!!

We don't have a nursery either due to 1 bed flat...its already cramped to hell when dh's other 2 kids are here let alone adding a third lol. Can't wait for his house to sell with his ex so we can move!

We don't technically have a nursery yet either waves as we are living with my parents! Baby will share with us until we move out again.

We'll need monitors now as parents house is much bigger than ours was, so will look into digital ones, thanks Jolly

I may have been nesting slightly last week but the urge has gone again now, couldn't even be arsed taking the dry washing down and putting it away today!!

I've managed to calm my nesting down but it's driving me crazy.

Experienced late night leg cramps for the first time last night - right in the middle of the only good night's sleep I've had in weeks! I screamed out in agony, poor DP got such a fright as he thought I'd fallen off the bed! So yea, they're no fun!

hope everyone is doing ok?

I haven't done any nesting but think I need to do some soon. Had an emergency app with ANC the other day due to pain and baby measuring small. The registrar (not my consultant) told me I had to have steroids should the baby be early/small which has somewhat freaked me out a little bit - I know there is a risk of having a prem baby but wasn't expecting to be told now. I didn't like the registrar to be honest, but she has to learn and thought she was fobbing me off but if there was something seriously wrong she would have got the consultant I feel.

so am trying to work out plans A,B, C should this baby arrive early and what to do with DD1 as DH can't take too much time off work. Fingers crossed it stays put till my c section at 39 weeks.

We don't have a nursery either. Baby will be in with us for six months at least and our bedroom is big enough to accommodate a cot and a child's wardrobe. Our 'spare' bedroom is currently home to a double bed, DPs huge desk and filing units.

Can I have a rant about another Aug vs Sept born thread please? Someone is spouting the Russell group stats as being 'proof' that our children will be disadvantaged their whole lives. I did sociology for half of my first degree and those stats are a load of bollocks!
They don't take into account the fact that parents of Russell group students are much more likely to have a degree themselves and place a much higher value on eduction. These parents are much more likely to try for an autumn baby and to spend time/money on educating their child.
I don't like that people think that my DD will be at a disadvantage and her education will suffer just because of her month of birth. So many factors can affect a child's experience of school/attainment I don't understand why this gets focused on.

I live in Scotland where the cut off is Feb or March so doesn't really make any diff lol when my dc2 was born in England though he missed the cut off by two weeks so was almost 5 when he started school and tbh he could probably have done with another year at nursery even then!

Anyway if anyone thought their child wasn't ready for school at just 4yo then the law in England provides that they do not have to start legally until the term in which they turn 5, so if anyone was really bothered, jsut keep them off for a bit longer. problemo solvo no?

Each child is different and will settle or not and succeed or not, accordingly. Nothing to do with the month they are born in IMHO.

Leg cramps or restless legs - I've started taking magnesium tablets and I have to say after just 4 days I am noticing a difference already. Google for recommended safe doses in pregnancy :) also helps insomnia apparently a lot of insomniacs are deficient in magnesium, have to say I am waking less then normal, am usually awake an hour or two in the night and find it VERY difficult to drop off, but again it's improving :)

Rug - I don't believe any of those statistics either. I was an October baby, but was moved ahead a year, so was always the youngest by some way, and still flew through exams, and went to a Russell Group uni. I tried for a summer baby this time as DD is a September baby and we had HUGE problems with her being super bored at preschool etc. Reception year was a write-off as she was confident with phonetics, numbers, reading, and so that was another bored year for her. DS is March born, and is doing brilliantly at school - does maths with the year up etc.

I think a huge part of any child's education is parental input. I am lucky as I am a bookworm, and really engaged with education (my own and that of my DCs), so we have always sat down to read together, and do maths games out and about etc. I am also lucky that both DCs are naturally very able, and enjoy learning.

End of the day it is easiest, when trying to put statistics together, to focus on something that is readily measurable - such as age or month of birth. Parental input and the value of education within a household is not easy to measure, so that will so often be overlooked, I think.

I went into work today for what was meant to be a quick meeting as I am still signed off. I was there for 2.5 hours and need to go back in on Tuesday. Felt awful after work and couldn't face driving up to hospital, so I have been laying outside in the sun instead. I'll attempt to get to hospital tomorrow.

Stiggley this all sounds very worrying for you. Have you had to start the steroids already? Do you know why you are at risk of a preterm baby? Hopefully things will remain on plan for your c-section at 39 weeks. Hope you are ok

The August/Sept schooling theories make me SO cross! DD1 is the youngest in school and has settled in absolutely fine and is coping better than many of her peers. If she had been born on time in Sept we'd have had to keep her back a year and she'd be so bored and was ready to go to school in June last year! Parental input is vital.

Waves - hope you are doing ok?

I am on the steroids already - as thought they would only help the baby should it make an early appearance. I have gone bright red in the face which is a side affect! But having looked pasty white for months, it makes a change!

I am considered high risk, as I have a bicornuate uterus, which means there is a division of uterus and baby has less room to grow - and I myself was a premmie weighing in at 1lb back in 1974. Oh and they consider me as old! I am not very taller (less than 5ft) so that doesn't help either. DD1 was born by CS at 39 weeks weighing in 6lb 9oz which is quite respectable. But every pregnancy is different. My mum has the same condition - 2 of us were born early (one sadly died at 2 weeks) and 4 other siblings were fine, in fact 2 siblings are over 6ft!! But this pg is so different - MS still going on, mega tired etc. I am worried but am trying not to worry too much. I knew it was all a risk but had secretly hoped that as DD1 was ok, this one will be, but I have to have all my fingers and toes crossed.

I don't think the birth month makes loads of difference, I think it's a combination of each individual child's personality, genetics and parenting. and most likely too many variables for any static to truly show.
My DD was born in January, her dad is very cleaver, me not so much, I give her encouragement and help at home she loves school but still really struggles.

Was at the maternity unit this week had a little bit of spotting and cramping period pain type cramping not contraction type). All ok done some swabs and just waiting for results but the spotting has stopped and pains reduced.

Wanted to ask a bit of a what would you do, if anything question.

We didn't tell our family that we were expecting our baby till we were 18 weeks gone. The family, mine and DH's have the normal expected level of interest asking the usual questions but my DM doesn't seem interested at all. During phone calls I would talk about baby related things to her, things I'd seen or were thinking of buying asking her to look at something I'd seem online to see what she thought, but soon noticed that she wasn't really engaging in the conversation and never mentioned the baby to me at all, so feeling a bit like she wasn't interested I thought I'd stop mentioning baby/pregnancy as it was starting to make me feel uncomfortable, so now I haven't mentioned the baby for about the last 3-4 weeks and neither has she. Apart from I texted her to say my scan had gone well.

To be honest I'm feeling rather hurt because it seems very much like she doesn't care. DH thinks I should not mention the baby if she's not and just see what happens when little one is born. When I was pregnant with DD we'd talk most days and she wanted to be and was a very important part of my pregnancy. This is just so different. My parents are no longer together and DM does have a partner who she lives with, when his dd had her babies my DM would tell me things about them but is showing no interest in her own grandchild, although she hasn't mentioned her partners DGC to me since I told her I was pregnant, I suspect because if she spoke about them it would lead to talking about my little one.

Sorry to of rambled on there, I'm just feeling frustrated and wanted to get it out I guess.

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I was the youngest in my school year, throughout primary school. Once I went to secondary school there were one or two people younger than me. I don't feel I've suffered or struggled because of it, and I was among the top students in my year. I didn't go to university, but so what? I found work, went to college and did a bit of training, got better jobs, and prior to having DD and stopping work, was earning a perfectly respectable salary. Not megabucks, but plenty for me.

Do people really, honestly care about this in real life? It strikes me as utterly bizarre. All the kids in the class will have different levels of ability, surely, regardless of when they were born.

Anyway, no leg cramps here thankfully, apart from once. Only slightly achy ribs too, which I'm glad about as they were soooooo painful when I was pg with DD. The only way to ease it was to lie down with my arms above my head. Not much use at work.

I have no idea what Russell group is about but i agree that an awful lot of it is down to parental input. I have worked with kids on nd off all my adult life and have seen kids at 5 be very ready for school and those that could really donwith another year in nursery and it babes no relation whatsoever to when they were born and entirely on how engaged they are at home and the nature of the child itself.

I'm an august baby. I flew through school and came out with 8 a's 4 a*'s and 2 distinction in my gcses. All a's in my alevels.
So i wouldnt panic. Dd will be one of the oldest in her year, shes already at level of 2 yr old with everything. So to be honest, kids are gonna struggle or excel in school no matter the age. I take statics with a pinch of salt.

Feeling so blooming crummy, want to know when its gonna give :( anti biotics are so strong surprised i can even function. So this weekend is all about resting, as i'm gonna end up on my ass and back in hosp. Hopefully dh will actually do what he says he gonna do.

Little man is breech atm and his head is in my ribs. Heartburn is terrible! 20+ episodes yesterday and today has been much the same. Gtt in 11 days, scan and consultant appt all on same day. Busy day.

26+4 yay :D

Lexi sorry your DM is being like that. It's really hurtful when you're excited but you feel that family aren't interested.
DP is a bit at his family, they have a whole load of other shit going on right now and our pregnancy just hasn't hit their radar (they actually forgot I'm going to have a newborn in Sept and keep asking what our plans are for the summer hols!).

Abi I think this baby lies on it's side back to back a lot, I get a lot of movement on both sides in the middle, this would explain my complete lack of heartburn so far (although I did wake up still tasting the dreamtime tea I had yesterday evening yuck!).

I don't get the whole August/September issue but probably because I'm in Scotland! I was one of the youngest in my year as was a January baby but it hasn't affected me whatsoever, I have a degree and a reasonably well paid job. I reckon it all depends on the individual and how much importance is placed on education throughout their upbringing.

Sorry your mum is being a bit funny Lexi could you just ask her what the problem is rather than stew over it? I would probably rather just know what's wrong.

Morning ladies. Went to see midwife yesterday as was a bit concerned after high BP at GTT appointment. I made some changes at work do wanted to see if all was well. Perfect BP thank goodness. Listened to heartbeat and am measuring four weeks too big! That'll explain people saying lovely helpful things about the size of my bump then!

Have a growth scan next week anyway and DS was measuring big at this stage too. I'm not concerned.

As for Aug/Sept business, I think it's rubbish! I work in education and every child is different. One woman said to be that this child will be resentful that all their friends will drive before they can. Ho hum! Shall I start saving for them to have counselling now?!

Happy bank hol everyone! We have visitors all weekend so I'm going to be exhausted!!

27+2

Glad e erythi g is ok mrsd

I had a worrying night...throwing up at gone midnight only to find quite a bit of blood in it and now my tummy feels very odd. Baby is still moving about although not as much but the movements have been deeper so wondering if i am just not noticing them as much. Have dp's kids for weekend so couldn't rush to hospital as no one to leave them with at that time of night and he was at work.

Still feel iffy this morning so going to try ringing the antenatal dept at the hospital although not are if it should be them or docs. Any advice ladies?

Get some medical advice BabyH - vommiting blood is not something that should happen. Can you ring triage at your local maternity unit?