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How to explain to my 3 year old grandson that his daddy is on remand for the murder of his mummy?

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missymarmite · 26/06/2025 03:51

In April, my eldest.stepdaughter was killed. The police belive her partner, and the father of their 3 year old son killed her. He has pleaded not guilty and is being held on remand until his trial which is meant to be in October this year (all being well).

My husband, myself, my DH ex-wife and her partner are now sharing responsibility for raising our grandson.

We all believe DSD's partner is guilty as the evidence so far imparted by the police has been damning, and they are holding other pieces of evidence. But, obviously, there is always a chance he could be found not guilty.

We were guided by social services on how to explain DSD's death to DGS. So, all four of us, plus DSD's sisters, have been using the same kind of language to talk openly about her to her son, so that he knows he can talk about her and express his feelings if need be.

To that end, they provided us with a bespoke book with photos of the 2 of them, "Mummy and Son Story." He looks at it a lot. And I also put a big picture of him and his mummy in his room at ours for when he stays with us.

But so far, no one has been able to guide us as to how we should explain why his daddy is gone from his life. And recently, each time he sees his mummy's photo in his room, he has started asking me (only me, he doesn't ask anyone else for some reason) "where's daddy?" He does this while looking at the photo, so I have been answering "he's taking the photo," because that is the truth.

But I have a strong feeling that he is actually asking where his daddy is NOW. And I don't know what to say. Neither does my DH or his ex. We've asked social services for guidance, but communication with them has been Slow to awful and they don't seem to know either. We don't want to say the wrong thing, especially since we don't know what the outcome of the trial will be.

Does anyone have any advice or ideas where I can go for advice?

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pikkumyy77 · 26/06/2025 04:08

Just so sorry you are all going through this this. I don’t think you have to be faithful to the truth. Just say “daddy had to go abroad for work” and leave it vague.

purpleme12 · 26/06/2025 04:18

I think you're right to be reluctant to say till the outcome of the trial.
It's a tough one.

I found this. Looks like they could help

https://childrenheardandseen.co.uk/what-we-offer/

Sounds really tough for all of you

Our Support - Children Heard and Seen

Range of support services on offer from Children Heard And Seen for children and families impacted by parental imprisonment.

https://childrenheardandseen.co.uk/what-we-offer

Secretsquirels · 26/06/2025 04:35

I would be as honest as you can, without preempting the outcome of the trial.

Depending on what you’ve told him about his mum, something like “The police have asked us to look after you because daddy is busy answering their questions about what happened to mum so he can’t look after you”

Its also ok to answer his questions with “I don’t know” if you don’t, and reassure him that the police are trying to find some answers.

If you are reasonably sure that his dad will be found guilty I’d try to avoid saying anything positive but busy: on holiday/working away/helping police etc. Because that will make the conversation in October much much harder.

sashh · 26/06/2025 04:45

There is a charity that has specific help for children in this situation, I think it is part of 'Winston's wish'.
https://winstonswish.org/death-through-homicide/

So sorry for your loss OP and obviously for your grandson's loss too.

Death Through Homicide

Winston's Wish offers specialist bereavement support for children, young people and families affected by the homicide of a loved one.

https://winstonswish.org/death-through-homicide/

FrodoBiggins · 26/06/2025 04:53

I'm so sorry for your loss. Your grandson is lucky to have caring grandparents, I can tell by how much you're all working to do and say the right things that he's very loved by you but I'm still very sorry for this awful situation.

user1492757084 · 26/06/2025 05:10

My sincere condolances. What a tricky but very important task you all have.
DGS is only three.
You are right to not really say anything except answering his questions with innocent answers that he can comprehend.

You should seek professional advice before you expose DGS to anything that he will not be able to process or that will distress him or affect his development. There is possibly an age after which he might cope better with further truth and details.
All grandparents should be on the same page.

Will he have access to his paternal grandparents?

MidnightScroller · 26/06/2025 05:33

I didn’t want to read and run - so sorry for your loss OP. Agree with PPs to keep it factual and age appropriate- at his age and up until about maybe 10 or older all the references to murder and prison/prisoners will be simplistic and scary eg bad man/evil/ scary people etc. Given presumably he has memories of daddy being loving (as well as I expect being scary and bad) it will be very confusing and scary for him to know his daddy is a bad man.
I expect advice on what to tell him will differ depending on whether he’ll remain in contact with his father or his fathers parents - if he’s going to be cut out of his life until such time as he’s old enough to decide whether to see him the. Your decision will probably be easier than if he has to see him while he’s growing up. If he sees his paternal grandparents is it feasible for you to discuss this with them so that you have a consistent message?
Good luck wishing you all all the best Flowers

Viviennemary · 26/06/2025 05:43

You shouldn't say much. He hasn't even been found guilty yet. Gone away for work.

dimples76 · 26/06/2025 06:17

I would contact the charities mentioned above for advice. I think 'Daddy is helping the police find out what happened to Mummy' line would be best. I certainly would not lie that he is away with work but I also think that he is too young to know that his Dad is in prison. And if he asks where he is just name the town where the prison is. Is he having any contact with his Dad's side of the family?

Sorry that you are going through this.

myplace · 26/06/2025 06:23

While you are waiting for better advice, say true things that don’t actually go anywhere, iyswim.

Daddy isn’t here.
Daddy is in ‘Birmingham’. (wherever the prison is)
Daddy can’t be here at the moment.

It will keep him satisfied for the moment, and it won’t be that long until you are able to say more.

I’m so sorry for your situation.

CrownCoats · 26/06/2025 06:23

I agree with contacting the charities above. What have you told him about his mum?

Unrelated to your question, but why is he splitting his time between two sets of grandparents? While it’s great that so many people love him and want to help, I would have thought a consistent home and carers would be far better for him at this time than being swapped back and forth between two homes.

Gazelda · 26/06/2025 08:03

I think @Secretsquirelspost makes a lot of sense.

Don’t, whatever you do, lie. However well meaning, the very last thing you want is for your DGS to not be able to trust what you say to him.

My heart aches for him. Thank goodness he has two places of safety and filled with love.

If you can bear it, could you find some photos with the dad in? To effectively lose 2 parents at once under strange circumstances will be very difficult for him so the more (appropriate) knowledge he has, the better.

TartanMammy · 26/06/2025 09:00

Keep it simple 'daddy had to go away.'

Daddy is not on holiday, helping police or at work. Don't lie to him, even if it feels easier just now it will be confusing for him later.

I'm sure you're doing this already too but 'daddy has to go away, he can't be with you just now but Grandma, Grandad, Granny and Grandpa will look after you and we love you very much.'

Nobody should have to go through this, I'm so sorry.

4forksache · 26/06/2025 09:10

What have you told him about why his mother isn’t there?

anyolddinosaur · 26/06/2025 09:26

How about the police think daddy did something bad so he is talking to them about it. He wont be able to see you for a while but you have lots of people who love you to look after you.

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