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do you have any " not v" days?

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cod · 05/04/2005 19:43

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wordsmith · 06/04/2005 23:58

As I said earlier today, don't demonise the messenger! I would not advocate leaving the TV on as background but there are plenty of educational, informative and entertaining (yes, entertaining!!!) programmes on that most kids could benefit from watching. I remember learning a lot from Blue Peter in the 1970's and I loved Newsround, it engendered in me a desire to know what's going on and I watch the news and read a paper every day. I have a friend who has a TV but no aerial and just lets her DSs watch videos for about half an hour a day, which she watches with them. She doesn't watch TV herself (obviously) but also doesnt read a paper and hardly listens to the news on the radio. She's an intelligent, well educated person but didn't even know last week that the pope was ill!

Through TV my DS1 has learned about the stars, dinosaurs, different countries, the fact that the Tsunami happened and people were killed - prompting a discussion about life and death which I think helped him understand the 'circle of life' - as well as watching some fun kids programmes which he enjoys (AND the Simpsons, which we all enjoy!) He's never watched Power Rangers and I doubt if he even knows there's a programme about them, but he has at least 6 of the Power Ranger dolls.

TV is one of the most powerful media for communicating with other people. It shows children and adults a life that is different from their own. It makes them aware that there is so much more on this planet than just us. I think that to deny our children the opportunity to learn from it on a point of principle is plain wrong. There is an on/off button and there is such a thing as choosing the programmes you want to watch and switching off when you want to live in the real world. Would parents who deny thier kids Tv also deny them books because of Jeffrey Archer?

CountessDracula · 07/04/2005 00:02

hardly at all in the week (but she is at nursery 8.30 til 4 monday to thurs)

Fridays are my days off with dd, no way am I wasting that with tv unless I'm ill or desparately need to get stuff done!

Saturday and sunday mornings usually she gets vids or cbeebies, sometimes late pm too.

That's about it I guess

CountessDracula · 07/04/2005 00:02

tv as "background" is soooo awful IMO. What;'s wrong with music?

wordsmith · 07/04/2005 00:05

I normally have R5Live on as background. That's pretty intrusive actually....

bobbybob · 07/04/2005 00:49

DS never watches TV programmes. He has a few DVDs plus extras from the library and he watches 10-15 day while I have a shower. No TV for him at weekend because dh can play with him while I have my shower. It's handy when I need him to sit stock still for 15 minutes to get clean, but I just find the fact that he will sit so very still disconcerting at other times.

DH and I have many TV free days. At the moment Monday, Tuesday, Thursday and Saturday simply because there is nothing on.

bobbybob · 07/04/2005 00:52

Oh and when I do watch TV it is utter escapism. I don't do non fiction TV, documentaries, travel programmes - just don't have the concentration for them. I'm certainly not going for quality over quantity.

BadgerBadger · 07/04/2005 01:34

I had no TV at one time and found loads of interesting things to do instead .

But, TV has been great for keeping DD1 occupied whilst I've been busy with baby DD2. She does loads of other things too, but at least twice a day I put cbeebies on while I get on with other things (usually involves tidying up after a craft session or gardening TBH!).

I'm sure it's good for her! Otherwise the poor thing would be clamouring for attention or sitting on the sidelines while I attend to DD1 or tidy. This way, we're all happy.

BadgerBadger · 07/04/2005 01:35

(attend to DD2 I meant to say!)

FairyMum · 07/04/2005 07:10

There are certainly days I don't watch tv. Why do I have hundreds of channels and there is nothing to watch?

We restrict tv to 30-60 mins a night, but our kids aren't into tv really. I find myself sometimes encouraging DS1 to watch a bit more tv to get some peace to read the paper.....

WideWebWitch · 07/04/2005 07:32

I haven't read the thread (has it kicked off? lots of posts!) but no, we don't have any deliberate no tv days. But we didn't have any tv yesterday because we were out all day and we won't have much today or tomorrow either for the same reasons. I hate ads aimed at children too and therefore it's mostly cbeebies here, plus dvds sometimes.

throckenholt · 07/04/2005 07:49

I have to say that my DS1 showed absolutely no interest in tv until he was about 3 - if he came across a cartoon/fimbles/ etc on tv he would watch idly for a minute or two and then go off and do something more interesting !

Now at 3.5 he will happily watch for ages - but normally he prefers the "real" things - diy programs, farming stuff, wildlife, the "real" bits of kids programs. They stimulate all sorts of ideas for him.

acnebride · 07/04/2005 13:00

No 'no tv' days because i do use tv to entertain ds whenever i just feel too shattered to do anything but gape in the distance with my mouth open while ds attempts to post bricks into it. Usually 3 - 4 times a week, would be more but the tv is upstairs so we have to climb stairs to get to it - even more tiring.

Do have the radio on a lot and i think that's probably nearly as bad. But I look at him watching tv and he doesn't move - at all - whereas otherwise he doesn't stop. Can't be good for him more than a bit.

had a friend who grew up with no tv, no heating, no newspapers. meanwhile i was watching all the hours I could (tho in those days there wasn't as much as now i suppose). she is a wonderful and special person, at least partly because of her upbringing, but she loathes all 'modern music' as she calls it and her general knowledge is a bit partial - she knows a lot about global affairs and ecology but couldn't tell you the dates of WWII. TBH I don't have the chutzpah to give my kids such a 'different' upbringing and I do want him to know more pop culture to give him the chance to blend in if he wants to. Will be very strict about the watershed later as now you can see full-on sex at about 9.30 - huh, in my day you had to wait til 2 am for a nipple.

Gobbledigook · 07/04/2005 13:02

Not consciously but there will be days where it's not on as we go out somewhere straight from nursery (pick up at 1pm) and then tea and bed as soon as we get in.

I have no hang ups about using TV at all but then mine tend to have it on as background and don't sit and watch for very long (then I do turn it off but more to save electricity!!) - some friends have kids who would sit glued all day if they could and then I suppose I'd make an effort to turn it off.

Gobbledigook · 07/04/2005 13:03

OH and like WWW we just have CBeebies or video/DVD so they don't see any ads really - hate them too.

fee77 · 07/04/2005 13:54

When i was younger, i babysat for my landlords little boy, and when it came to bedtime, instead of reading a story i was instructed to put a video on - he was 2 1/2!!!!!!!!
DD has a tv and video in her room (18mths. It used to be the spare room so haven't got round to taking it out - she doesn't know it exits. Plus it was very useful when dd was younger - i used to watch open university whilst i fed her!!!

MoggyMummy · 07/04/2005 13:59

I have just moved DS's playroom from the living room to another room in the house which doesn't have a TV. We end up watching hardly any TV at all. It is much better for me too - I don't have to listen to/watch anymore CBeebies and I get to listen to Radio 4 too .

collision · 07/04/2005 22:03

wigglewiggle, why the mention of Italian TV? I mentioned in my last post too. Do you live in Italy?

wigglewiggle · 09/04/2005 21:19

in response to collision, I live in london but I am italian. lived in uk since 91. i do not go back that often but went back with my 2y old dd and I realised how bad it was. there was nothing decent for adults, let alone for a 2y old. mostly japanese cartoos for older kids and teletubbies in italian where nowhere to be seen althugh i been told they do exist. we stayed at my sisters, all adults, so no other kids or toys to play. she only had those few toys i could take with me and good tv wouldve helped keeping her entartained when she got bored of various improvised toys at my sisters house and I wanted some adult time. we did go out a lot i wish to add quickly before people think that we stayed in all the time.

wigglewiggle · 09/04/2005 21:20

and what is your italian link, i forgot to ask

MumOnaMission · 10/04/2005 00:46

those of you that don't allow tv (or much tv), what do your kids do while you're busy?

tigermoth · 10/04/2005 07:12

this thread keeps on running!

LOL at marthamoo's message - and agree!

I think there's a difference between plonking children in front of a TV alone and sitting with them. Every now and again, I make myself sit through a spongebob squarepants cartoon or whatever. My childen love me doing this and I think sharing some TV time with my children is an active, not passive bit of parenting. If I talk to my 5 year old about what's happening on screen, I am usually surprised how articulate he is. When I ask him what's he's done at school all day, I get the standard 'I don't know'.

MoggyMummy · 10/04/2005 09:21

MumOnaMission Don't get me wrong - he still watches TV, but not as much as it was when we used to when we just "hung out" in the room with a TV

As for what he does when I'm busy - to be honest he follows me around everywhere. So if I need to go to the toilet he is there, if I need to cook dinner he is there and he plays or helps me in the kitchen. He doesn't really entertain himself. It is exhausting

Prufrock · 10/04/2005 15:49

My dd is usually busy with me. She "helps" to cook, clean - dab hand with a duster- and if I'm doing something she can't get involved in (like Mumsnet) she is usually happy to sit beside me and colour with the occasional "Oh that's beautiful" interjection. ds (11 months) just tends to sit on his bottom and chew his toys. Or sleep

cod · 10/04/2005 15:50

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