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Sometimes I don't like me daughter

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golds · 29/08/2004 09:44

But I do always love her.

My 6.5 yr old daughter is a nightmare, she has the attitude of a 14 year old, everything I say I get 'so' or 'dont care' or 'what ever' she is really starting to make me dislike her.

She is a very talented little girl and a real extrovert, she shines at her ballet and tap and has even had comments made about her, she is excellent at school and is very consistent in all subjects, but at home she is awful, she seems to have so much energy that she wares me down, shes always back chatting me, she wont sleep at night, and the holidays have been very draining, the only peace I'm getting from her is when I'm asleep. It was 11.30 before she finally dropped off last night.

My major problem or potential problem is that our son (4) is an angel, he's so laid back, does what hes told and rarely is naughty, he goes to sleep when told and only takes a few minutes to get off, in fact you can put him to bed and say I'll be back in a minute and he's gone, you don't even have to sit with him.

With her, she wants you there all the time with her, you have to lie with her to get her off and if you move to soon, she wakes up and creates. I keep thinking that she thinks that we favour our ds over her and perhaps she's feeling a little insecure, but she gets all the praise we can offer, we do love her dearly, if I ask her for a cuddle or go and grab her, she turns away and refuses you in her space, she will only dance if I'm not watching for fear of critisism, but I never would.

Because she is SO good at what she is interested in, she seems to have got it into her head (not from me) that perfection is the only thing to stride for. She didn't want to go swimming anymore, because at one swimming class (arm bands) she was the best, but as soon as they moved her up to the next class (no arm bands) obviously because she was new to it, she was the weakest, she refused to go after that.

I think also, she reminds me of myself, always the joker that everyone laughed at, but I didn't feel as loved as my sister, I still have a problem with my sister to this day, my mum and dad said they have never favoured her over me, but because I'm feeling like this towards my dd, how can I believe them. My confidence is very low, and I just feel as if the only job I thought I would be good at (parenthood) I'm failing at.

Please don't get me wrong, I do really love her, but I am currently going through this feeling of hating her at times - I thought all the troubles start when they are 14 and not 6.

Hopefully going back to school will make it better - at the moment I just can't wait for 7 September to arrive

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Heathcliffscathy · 01/09/2004 21:59

golds, you've got this far. hang in there. it takes time and the older they are the longer i reckon. you're doing really well, i know it doesn't feel it. try to stay strong.

Twiglett · 01/09/2004 22:00

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Heathcliffscathy · 01/09/2004 22:00

often it gets worse after having got better before finally really changing...

Demented · 01/09/2004 22:04

golds, I haven't read all of this and don't have any personal experience with the same situation, although can sympathise with feeling at the end of your tether. Just wanted to say FWIW stick with it, I think you're right not to give in she probably is looking for your attention and IMO 10pm at night isn't the time she should be getting it. I would imagine it will take a few nights but will be very worth it in the end. Hold on in there.

golds · 01/09/2004 22:04

thank you, I really have had enough, she gives me so much grief, when she's tired in the day shes grumpy and then won't sleep at night, it a constant battle.

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Demented · 01/09/2004 22:05

That's it too if she starts sleeping better at night then she should be easier to cope with during the day.

golds · 01/09/2004 22:12

she was wonderful the other day after a good nights sleep, she admitted that she felt good too. I just don't understand why she feels the need to put me through all this crap. It is still quiet up there, so hopefully she has gone, its so hard to keep cool and not to shout or scream. MN provides me with the space to let off steam, I can feel myself becoming calmer already, thank you. This is exhausting me

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coppertop · 01/09/2004 22:15

I've just finished reading the thread so far, golds. One thing that stands out for me is that dd likes to know what is happening in advance and dislikes change (or is that 2 things?). I strongly suspect that she also likes routine and structure which is why she probably seems to behave so well at school and goes to pieces in the holidays. My ds1 is a more extreme example but even a tiny change to his bedtime routine will end up with him being awake for hours. I noticed that your dd was happy when you said I'll be back in 5 minutes and then DID come back.

You may find it gets a bit easier when the school routine starts but maybe it would help to always give her warning about what is happening next. If necessary set it out for her in the morning and say, "After breakfast we will do X then Y. Then it will be lunch". My ds1 adores his grandmother but if I spring it on him that we're going out to meet her he will get upset and have a mini-meltdown.

In the meantime, keep trying with the allergy angle to. Hugs to you. xx

golds · 01/09/2004 22:24

dh has been out the past few evenings working, so Ive been able to be alot stricter with her and there has been nobody to play me off against, he came home tonight half way through putting her down, she can hear him messing about downstairs whilst I am trying to sort her out, so she then starts screaming I WANT DADDY, thinking (because he has been in the past) that he will be softer and give in. I think that he made it a little worse tonight. I thik that maybe I should send him out everynight so I can deal with it alone.

Its so nice to have all your support, I'm not sure what I would do without MN to off load on - probably woul'd do very well at all.

Why do children at some point make you feel like a big failure

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Beccarollover · 01/09/2004 22:28

Golds I had a truly terrible time a few months ago with similar problems just a different age (4). I ended up calling on the help of a community nurse who specialised in behaviour who basically devised a plan the same as the lovely Mnetters are saying - get bedtime routine sorted, ignore bad behaviour, reward good etc etc

It was hellish at first - she used to vomit, wee, poo, throw up - ANYTHING for me to give her the attention at bed time - I stuck it out and it took about 4 days in all of hell then a couple of relapses. She now trots off to bed at 8pm without a word and is 1000000000000 times better during the day - everything has improved lots and lots.

I remember vividly my heart sinking when I heard her stirring in the morning, I disliked her and just couldnt be BOTHERED with any more aggro. I know exactly where your coming from and please stick it out as you can have such a happier, more peaceful life

Becca
xxx

coppertop · 01/09/2004 22:29

Making you feel like a failure seems to be a 'gift' that every child is born with. Add to that the feeling that everyone else must be perfect parents doing far better than we are and you end up tearing your hair out.

golds · 01/09/2004 22:37

Oh wow Becca, that gives me great hope, she is asleep now, so that took approx 2.5 hours and I'm on day 3 (I think - Ive lost count), I'm tired and I bet the old man next door is wondering what going on, didn't get chance to talk to him the other day, but I think I should tommorrow.

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KangaMummy · 01/09/2004 22:42

I think you are doing all the right things golds

We have DS age 9 and we use the pocket money way of behaviour. He gets 7 pence each day and if he is rude or misbehaves he gets pennies taken off. It is immediate ie that night. [not having to wait for star charts we did those when he was younger]

At the end of week he counts up his pennies and it can total £2.10 if he has been good.

If he does something really good he will get a comic or small book or small lego so it can work both ways.

Also if he is rude in company we can hold up 1 or 2 fingers and he knows it is 1p or 2p off total without causing embarressment.

Twiglett · 02/09/2004 11:18

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golds · 03/09/2004 09:12

Thank you everybody for your support, last night I had a good night and she was asleep by 9, having gone to bed at 8.30, long may this continue, I think I am on the right track and hopefully she will not follow the pattern of being good one night and bad the next, but for now, we are all refreshed and looking forward to a pleasant, no conflict day.

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Titania · 03/09/2004 09:17

golds i am glad you had a better night. Fingers crossed for it being the shape of things to come?

kkgirl · 04/09/2004 10:00

golds

have been following your thread with interest.

How did it go last night.

golds · 04/09/2004 10:10

Not too bad last night, although I could strangle my dh, I went out to work and returned about 8.30, they were both downstairs watching a video, he had promised them, that they could stay up a bit longer as it was Friday night what is the point of trying the get them in a routine, if he doesn't stick to it at a weekend.

Anyway, we took them up and ds settled straight away and dd took about half an hour, she protested, especially for me, but then dh went up and within 10 minutes she was asleep, so it is definately getting better, although still not perfect. 3 more sleeps to go until she is back at school, come next week I am hoping we will have it sorted.

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kkgirl · 04/09/2004 10:14

Golds

Oh I know all about dh's. You make all this effort to get a problem sorted, and then they change the boundaries!!!

Anyway I'm glad it is going a bit better for you, even a little improvement makes a difference doesn't it when you are struggling with these problems. Hope it continues and is all sorted out.

golds · 06/09/2004 09:10

Just thought I would give you a quick update.

Has anyone seen my old daughter, because she seems to have disappeared and I have got a wonderful new one.

She stil takes about half an hour to nod off, but that time is spent reading, not screaming.

Before her bath last night she said to me 'actually mummy I quite like bed time now, my reading is getting better too' I nearly fell through the floor. She read me a page of her Angelina book word perfect.

This morning she woke up and said 'I feel really good and obviously all of my sleep is helping my brain to grow as I can read alot better nowand I'm not grumpy anymore'

So far so good, back at school tomorrow, so we will see what that brings, also I'm at work till 9pm tonight, so dh is having to 'do' bedtime.

She keeps hugging me too, she knows I am proud of her. I am happier, she's happier - job done

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Titania · 06/09/2004 09:12

so happy for you golds!!! glad things are working out for you! Fingers crossed your 'new' daughter is here to stay!!

Twiglett · 06/09/2004 19:29

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