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bad tempered baby

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littlepiggie · 02/09/2006 12:06

Ds is 19 weeks old and has from day one had a temper like you would not believe. He squeeles as loud as he can, pretends to cey untill he gets your attention, throws himself back when you have hold of him, throws himself out of bouncy chair. He can scream full pelt for over an hour for what sees like no reason.
It is like this none stop from morning till night, hv are out of ideas and say ignore him even been out to witness it as he is good as gold when he is out.

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VeniVidiVickiQV · 04/09/2006 23:49

Hi, just wanted to say that DS was very much like this...he wasnt/isnt being naughty or moody or anything else...sometimes babies are just very sensitive/frustrated.

Its hard for you, but as he gets older and can start to do more and more it will get better.

beegee · 05/09/2006 07:37

Thank you Mrsnoah!

Medulla · 05/09/2006 07:43

I can only add to what's already been said about an oesteopath - worked wonders for my little boy. He is now the most laid back baby I have ever come across. He didn't even have a traumatic birth as he was CS, so no forceps etc but it was like magic. Don't know why or how it works but it does. It is expensive as someone has already pointed out but we only needed 2 sessions. Just one thing she mentioned while she was doing his first examination was that some babies don't like to have a snug nappy they like it a bit looser, have you tried that? Cheaper than an oesteopath!! Good luck

beegee · 05/09/2006 07:56

Hi - just wanted to add to what VVVQV - i'm no diagnosing expert either but my dd (now 5mths) had 'silent' reflux - was unhappy most of the day, arching back, hated feeding at times, had a dry cough every so often...sometimes i could hear myself saying WHAT'S WRONG WITH YOU?! I thought she was being moody - much better now but reflux can last up to a year. Again, just a thought...

beegee · 05/09/2006 07:57

Sorry - meant to say - adding to what pookey had to say

lemonaid · 05/09/2006 08:34

DS was very similar, and my HV's assistant also described him as bad-tempered. Now he's 19 months and has the happiest, sunniest disposition he's no more bad-tempered than any other toddler. What he was was incredibly frustrated he improved no end when he became mobile, again when he learned to walk, and again when he started to acquire language.

A couple of things -- I would third seeing a cranial osteopath (or possibly a chiropractor or cranio-sacral therapist).

Also recommend The Fussy Baby Book.

Plus (now this is going to sound loopy) DS was very like this and cs therapist suggested that a lot of it was down to trying toi express his frustration. She suggested when he got into a crying fit for no apparent reason just holding him very tight, blocking out as mucgh stimulation as possible, not trying to "soothe" him as such (so no jiggling of shushing or keeping changing position) but really listening to him (so not doing anything else e.g. watching TV or trying to read) and saying things like "I can see that you're really frustrated and angry, and that's OK" in a low voice. Now at the time I thought "happy clappy twaddle" but I was at the end of my tether so gave it a go and b*gger me if it didn't work! The first time he cried for 25 minutes then fell asleep (and he would normally cry for at least an hour of my trying to soothe him), and subsequent times it'd be more like 5-10 minutes -- sometimes falling asleep, sometimes just snapping out of it.

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littlepiggie · 05/09/2006 08:59

We have tried just about everything exept osteiopathy.
No tight nappies as in cloth.
Dont jig him, hold him tight, sway telling him its ok, sometimes singing helps.
Reflx, i had thought about that, have his cot on a tilt, and had him to gp, not interested, but going to try again.
He feeds better when sleepy or very hungry, tummy makes girggly noises arter feeds. brings bits of milk up when he burps which smells sicky.
Try to get him to have lots of napps to stop him getting over tied.

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littlepiggie · 05/09/2006 09:00

think i got everything, seeing GP on friday.

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mrsnoah · 05/09/2006 23:02

Does sound rather like reflux. Ask the GP for gaviscon to try. Sometimes they can be a bit reticent tho (the GP that is ).
Persist.
Good luck.

beegee · 05/09/2006 23:51

hope you're doing ok - re the reflux. My gp was very happy giving out the gaviscon but helped only for a little for a while then stopped working. I finally resorted to homeopathy which was BRILLIANT - worth a try if indeed you think it might be reflux. I find gps and hvs in my experience know more about colic than reflux - there's quite a lot of info on the net and that's where i learnt all about it. Good luck and if you need any advice on this area then pls feel free to ask!

kbaby · 06/09/2006 09:54

beegee- sorry but what did the homeopathy do and how do i go about having it done. im desperate and will try anything to make ds more happy

mumsnetnovice · 06/09/2006 10:31

littlepiggie, i do know how you feel as i have experienced my ds behaving exactly like this from four to seven months old. i found that it was at its worst when ds wasn't so mobile. in fact, it seemed to go when he had managed to achieve something, like sitting up by himself, then come back when he was frustrated that he wanted to pull himself up but couldn't. when he managed that, it subsided again. what you have there i think is a bright, alert child who is keen to get onto the next stage of development before he is physically ready. it's infuriating, i know, but take some comfort that he is a bright and interested child. that was the only thing that helped me during the extremely loud times (generally in restaurants and tescos!!). chin up.

PumpkinPi · 06/09/2006 13:32

littlepiggie. I think it sounds like he's frustrated and I have the same problem with DD - except I have the crying under control. I don't ever let her stay awake for more than 2 hours - sometimes only an hour and a half. She is soo active and alert whilst she is awake - she simply must sleep that often. I don't even wait for signs - I go by the clock, and if I make an effort to get her to sleep - it almost always works. Also, I've just bought a door bouncer, and I had her in it today for about half an hour - and she didn't make a single noise, just hung out in it!I think she likes it because it allows her to move around in a more grown up way. I only took her out cos it was snooze time...

beegee · 06/09/2006 20:16

kbaby - i went to a qualified homeopath locally to where i live - she listened to all her symtoms and treated her for the reflux and her digestive system in general. She gave her some little pills (remedies) to suck once a wk and told me they should help speed up the maturing of her digestive system. For the 1st few days the syptoms worsened (if that was possible - she was so angry with the pain she was in) but then she started to have a few good hours followed by a good few days to where we are now - she's nearly 6 mths and she gets reflux symptoms very occassionally for a few mins at a time...before it was all day every day - hellish.
I was sceptical it would work but i was desperate to try anything. I'm no expert but i have heard that homeopathy works really well on babies and children. i'm converted and have since given a homeopathic remedy to my 3 yr old ds for his eczema - now he only gets a small patch on his hand so that seems to have worked too!

ilovecaboose · 07/09/2006 15:45

HAven't read all the way through, but my ds had a terrible temper from the day he was born. He used to get himself really worked up.

One thing we used to do was make a sudden noise like clapping hands and the (slight) shock was enough to get him out of it.

Also is your ds very independant? Mine was and improved tremendously when he started crawling and then when he started walking. My mum said my sister was the same (just didn't like being helpless).

HTH

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littlepiggie · 07/09/2006 19:45

tried loud noises, clapping shouting his name, he starts crying instead of pissy fitting.

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littlepiggie · 09/09/2006 20:16

Went to gp yesterday, he 99% its reflux.
Fingers crossed, been quite good today, cried twice becouse of been tired, but very easly settled.

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beegee · 09/09/2006 20:47

Sounds like it is reflux then that's giving him probs. Poor you & him...it DOES get better (promise) and some days are better than others I've noticed. Try keeping him as upright and as still as poss after feeds for at least half an hour..the gravity helps digestion. My dd was always at her worst after feeds. Sometimes she would refuse a feed as she would associate feeding with pain. We tried to keep her as relaxed as poss before and during feeds..quiet room..no interruptions etc. A dummy helped too - a dummy helps them to swallow saliva which can soothe the burning sensation they get from the half digested milk that is coming back into their chest & throat. Getting out when poss was good as it seemed to distract her from being uncomfortable.

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littlepiggie · 09/09/2006 20:59

The only time he is easy to feed is at night when he is half a sleep, although i feed him led down his cot is on a tilt. He seems to get worse as th they day goes on. i really hope thats what it is, at least i can do things to help.

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upandaway · 09/09/2006 21:05

You wait littlepiggie. If he is put on the rights meds you'll probably find he is a little angel. Poor mite.

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littlepiggie · 09/09/2006 21:42

on infant gaviscon, had it last night before bad, then 4 times today.

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upandaway · 09/09/2006 21:58

is he improved ?

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littlepiggie · 09/09/2006 22:02

i think so, only cried twice today, both times from been tired, although him does somtimes have good days. does not seem as angry, and not pulling at his mouth and face.

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upandaway · 09/09/2006 22:32

Lets hope it works then. Seems a good start.

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littlepiggie · 09/09/2006 22:38

how long does it take before thay really start to settle?

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