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Needs some advice re. left handed children... how do you know?

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MascaraOHara · 13/12/2005 13:35

I suspect dd might be Left handed but how do you know? dd doesn't show a strong preference either way.

When we were doing art at the weekend she drew with her right and cut with her left.

I've always thought she was a lefty but at one of her checks the HV said she was showing a preference to right (which I disputed)

she's 3 and I want to encourage her to make shapes of letters but don't want to encourage her to hold the pencil in her right if she's left handed.

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frogs · 13/12/2005 14:10

Read an abstract of an article on handedness by a cognitive psychologist recently which suggested that the most effective way of predicting handedness in a small child was to give them a tube (inside of kitchen roll or similar) and ask them to look through it, like a telescope. The eye they choose to put it to is likely to be their dominant side.

MascaraOHara · 13/12/2005 14:12

I'm definitely going to try that Jones and Frogs - tonight!

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LIZS · 13/12/2005 14:12

ds will be 8 in March .

mythumbelinas · 13/12/2005 14:20

Does anyone know (of any reports) if it is damaging to the child's development if they are told to use the hand which is not their natural choice?
My dd2 seems to prefer her left hand, but her grandparents encourage her to use her right hand. They don't force her but just say 'other hand' and she just switches.

nailpolish · 13/12/2005 14:22

that is shocking - like something out of the dark ages

i wouldnt tell a child to use their 'other hand'

i am left handed and was told by my dad to use my right hand, i ignored him thankfully

Redtartanlass · 13/12/2005 14:22

mythiumb at grandparents, why do they tell her tochange hand???

notasheep · 13/12/2005 14:28

Just let her use which hand she wants to,one day it will appear very obvious what she is.my dd is left handed-it was very noticeable whenever she held a wooden spoon to play her saucepan!! Dont let anyone bully you!

grumpyfrumpy · 13/12/2005 14:35

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JonesTheSteamingSanta · 13/12/2005 14:36

"Four million Britains can't be right by Alex Valentine

published about 1978, Observer ?

Four million people in Britain have something in common with Jack the Ripper. He was one of an unfortunate minority-the left-handed.

Unfortunate, because not only are they regarded as "odd" and "different" but the words that mean "left" all have unpleasant connotations.

The French word gauche also means clumsy, and the Latin sinister even has tones of evil.

Think too of the nicknames which are always given to the left-handers. They vary in different parts of the country but "cock-handed," "bang-handed," "cam-handed," "dolly-pawed," "cuddie-wifted" or just plain "squippy" all come to the same thing -that somehow or other all is not right with the left.

If it were just mild abuse it might not be so bad - the fact is that it's dammed difficult being a left-hander.

If you are left-handed you will have thought about the problem often enough. If not, you've probably given it a passing thought, and lightheartedly dismissed the difficulties.' But the three questions that should be asked are:

Why are people left-handed ?
Just how difficult is it to be left-handed ?
Can anything be done to make the left-handedness easier ?
The obvious and logical answer of the left-hander to the first question is "why not-why should it be a right-hander's world?"

And there is no real answer to that. It is certain that the majority of the world is right-handed, but beyond that there is only conjecture, theory, pseudo-science and folklore.

Some so-called experts say that it's because the brain is divided into two parts which control the opposite sides of the body-the left-hand part of the brain controls the right side of the body and the other way round.

Normally, this argument goes, the dominant part of the brain is on the left, therefore it controls the right-and that is supposed to explain why most people are right-handed.

Unfortunately for these theorists, studies of left-handed people do not show their brains have developed in any different way.

Another school of thought argues that it's all to do with the way in which the body is built. If you divide the human body in two from head to toe you will find that the right-hand side weights more than the left (there being more weight of liver and lungs on the right). So, says this theory, human beings tend to counter-balance their weight on the left foot, leaving the right foot and the right hand free for action.

Again that might be fine if there were any evidence that the bodies of left-handed people are any different from the rest. And there isn't.

The next guess is whether or not it's hereditary. This is now largely discredited, and since my right-handed wife and my right-handed self have three left-handed children, I'm not really surprised.

This in turn raises the question of whether or not left-handed children tend to copy each other, if not their parents. Again, it's inconclusive - for instance, of the Dionne Quintuplets, only one of the five was a left-handed.

By now it's getting into the realm of old wives' tales. It depends on which breast the baby was mainly fed on ?which arm it was carried about. . . whether it was bathed in a bath where the water ran out from left to right or right to left. . . .

Most left-handers have long since given up trying to find out. What they are more concerned with is the fact that they live in a right-handed world.

True, schools have now stopped forcing left-handed children to write with their other hand. Educational authorities have realised that this is likely to introduce nervous tensions into children (for instance, it is now, believed that the late King George VI suffered from a stammer because a tough governess at Buckingham Palace forced him to change his writing hand).

THE DIFFICULTY of writing with the left hand is obvious- the writing hand coves up what the person has written, and, before the days of the ball-point pen, smudged all the work.

But there are other less obvious handicaps that the left-hander has to fight against-the fact that potato peelers usually only have their cutting blades placed for right-handers, that irons and ironing boards are designed in such a way that when used by a left-hander the flex from the iron hangs over the work.

Knitting patterns are basically designed for right-handers, so are cork-screws and clockwork mechanisms- remember, for a left-handed person the natural motion is to turn the hand anti-clockwise.

But the left-handers are beginning to unite. in Britain they now have their own association run by Michael Barsley, a television producer and broadcaster, who has recently had his "Left Handed Book" published as a paperback by Pan.

The Left Handers' Association is agitating for legislation to recognise their difficulties, and for designers to think about them. They point out that even that most modern of all inventions-the computer-was designed for right-handed people.

They are also trying to get people to think of them as people, with certain handicaps which should be recognised without either ridicule or contempt.

It is, they point out, just a matter of some thought and consideration. There is no point in shouting at a left-handed child because it cannot copy the actions of a right-handed person who is demonstrating how to knit or tie a bow. The thing is to remember that the left-handed child uses opposite hands, so why not face the child and act as a "mirror" so that the child copies what it sees?

And, if you have a left-handed guest, why not put him or her (quietly and without making a big thing of it) at a left-handed corner of the table so that their elbow won't be jogged whilst they are holding a cup or glass?

Already, just off London's Carnaby Street, there's a special shop for left-'handers which has items like sauce-pans with lips that pour on either side, potato peelers with blades on both sides, left-handed scissors, left-handed ironing boards, and even left-handed playing cards.

It might be some consolation to left-handers to know that as well as Jack the Ripper they include such people as Leonardo da Vincl, Charlie Chaplin, Paul McCartney, Danny Kaye, Terence Stamp, Kim Novak, Denis Compton, Gary Sobers, Ann Haydon Jones and Rod Laver.

Indeed, the left-handers of the world ara turning up as one in every tenth person, and if you think in terms of any single race, colour or creed, who else makes up such a group ?

Maybe "Cack-handers of the World, Unite!" is not exactly the sort of slogan to set the world on fire, but to anyone who is left-handed in a right-handed world it's heavy propaganda."

grumpyfrumpy · 13/12/2005 14:41

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mookie · 13/12/2005 14:42

My dd2 (3.4) uses her left to write but everything else comes down to which ever hands closest to what she wants.

DD1 (4.11) is the same as her only she writes with her right.

An me, well Im just odd. I write with my right and do pretty much everything else with my left. Well almost everything except eating, I constantly swap hands with my knife and fork for cutting/scooping up/stabbing food. I get some odd stares when eating out because of this but I don't even notice im doing it.

I'd say don't worry too much about it, just leave her to use whichever hand she feels comfy with rather than trying to encourage one or the other. If the nursery bothers you then why not pop in and talk to one of the teachers about it and ask if maybe the could let her make the choice rather than encouraging right handedness.

JonesTheSteamingSanta · 13/12/2005 14:45

That explains it then, grumpyfrumpy!!

I had loads of ultrasounds with DD as they thought that she might have a problem - before DD was 24 weeks I'd had 8 scans!!!

nailpolish · 13/12/2005 14:45

i thought it was genetic

spruceylucy5 · 13/12/2005 14:46

My dd has always used her left hand for everything except the mouse on the computer. I always knew she was left handed. She has found cutting difficult but she now has left handed scissors.

mythumbelinas · 13/12/2005 14:49

I just put some crisps in a bowl for dd2 and she picked them up with her right hand .. i will try the tube test later aswell.
I am right handed but i hop on left foot, take pics with camera looking with my left eye ..

spruceylucy5 · 13/12/2005 14:50

My grandfather had his left hand tied behind his back when he was at school and if it wasnt tied they would hit it with a ruler if he tried to use it.

nailpolish · 13/12/2005 14:52

being left handed is fabulous - all the best tennis players are left handed

suedonim · 13/12/2005 14:54

I have two lefthanders, both girls, (I had scans during those pgs, coincidentally!) and my ds1 used both hands until he was about 4. I don't think a child needs to be encouraged to use a particular hand, they'll use whichever is most comfy for them. Being l-handed is no big deal, ime, schools are well used to it. My girls have nice writing and manage household items apart from can openers. 18yo dd can certainly use a corkscrew!

The eye/telescope test doesn't mean a thing. Everyone is left/right handed/footed/eyed and eared and in any combination. So you can be R-eyed but L-handed. Ds2 plays cricket L-handed but is r-handed for everything else.

JonesTheSteamingSanta · 13/12/2005 14:55

np - keep telling DH that DD is going to be a professional tennis player - it's obviously an advantage in tennis!!!!!!!

Mercy · 13/12/2005 14:56

My brother was forced to write with his right hand even though he was naturally left- handed. This was in the mid 70's - his teacher was also left handed but aparrently it was the policy to teach right-handedness only, ie, actively discourage left-handedness .

Anyway now he uses different hands for different actions. He eats left handed, plays guitar right handed, can play drums left and right handed, uses scissors right handed etc.

If he looks in a mirror he gets confused between left and right - weird !

MascaraOHara · 13/12/2005 14:59

Wow this has all been very interesting - didn't think I'd get such a response.

I'd really like to help her to struggle less with cutting and drawing but I don't know how without helping her hand do the movements.. and of course I don't want to do that because I automatically go for the right hand.

One of my friends is left handed and dd is a clone of her so for dd to be left handed would be the icing on the cake and proof that I have somehow managed to create a complete clone of my friend.

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mythumbelinas · 13/12/2005 14:59

Thanx for the info u gave Jones.
I don't think my parents mean to be negative about the left handed use to dd2 .. maybe they are just too old fashioned (they are old). They were the kind of parents that made sure we kept our book straight and back straight when we wrote, had good light when we read, sat away from the tv, etc

ImdreadinganAUTIExmas · 13/12/2005 15:20

ds2 is almost 4 and appears to have finally settled on his left hand. His drawing and writing is a little behind, although he surprised me last week and said "I'm going to write my name" and did. I think it'll just take him longer to learn to use a pencil properly, but I don't really think that matters. He's only 3!

sevensuzyswongsaswimming · 13/12/2005 15:22

I heard you can tell what had they are going to use if you ask them to make a pretend telescope and look through it, ie they would bring a hand up to their eye, form a circle with thumb and fingers and look through it. Suppose that would be at about 2. And which ever hand they use is their hand.

suedonim · 13/12/2005 15:45

Not so, SuzyW - see my post of 2.54.