Irish or Cornish baby names suggestions.

[Squishypenguins]

Suggest some Irish or Cornish baby names please. With Irish please add how to pronounce them

Lorcán for a boy

@1dayatatime , I mean how the hell do you get a pronunciation of "kee-va" out of Caoimhe!!!
C is 'k', aoi is 'ee', mh is 'v', e is like a shwa.

How do you know Jago is 'jay-go' not 'jah-go'?

Sort of 😁

I was also brought up in Cornwall.
Favourite girls names - Elowen, Ysella (pronounced Iz-ella), Demelza

For boys I love Tristan (though I see your sister has called dibs!), Jory, Jago and Lowen.

Fair enough- it was meant in jest.

I am open to being corrected.

That’s exactly how it’s pronounced in the north.

Caoimhe would have been our daughter’s name but for the alliteration (phonetically not appearance wise) with our surname. Tried to bully my Irish husband into it….

Cillian

Maybe it is…but definitely not in the south so you can’t say k for c as a general rule. That’s one of the reasons I said ‘sort of’. I’m not in the north but I wonder do native speakers there say keeva for Caoimhe too? They don’t seem to pronounce caoi like kee, not all of them anyway, so it seems a bit strange that they would, but maybe they do, I don’t know.

https://www.teanglann.ie/en/fuaim/caoi

Caoimhe is more like queeva where I am, but you don’t say the start as you would queen. The c is at the back of the mouth and then a glide sound to get to the aoi bit. I’m doing a terrible job of explaining, sorry.

https://forvo.com/word/caoimhe/

I once heard a native speaker ranting that most Caoimhes in Ireland couldn’t say their own name properly so I think most of us aren’t getting the Irish sounds right, we’re approximating.

Anyway, that’s what I meant.

Mairead (Mah-RADE). Fada on the E.
Una (Oona). Fada on the U.
Beibhinn (pronounced BEV-in, rhymes with Kevin)
Muireann (pr MWIR -ren)
Deirbhile (pr DER-vlah)

Declan
Lorcan
Cormac
Lir (pr Lear)
Ruadhan (pr ROO-awn). Fada on the last A.

Yes native speakers in the north do pronounce it exactly like that. At least, my friend’s husband is from Gweedore and that’s how he pronounces their daughter’s name.

Fair enough. Anyway, it’s not a general rule.

A few Irish ones :
Saorlaith, (seerla)
Eabha (ayva)
Aine (anya)
Alannah

@Signout , thanks.

I'm trying to translate Cornish to Welsh:

Pub den oll yw genys rydh hag kehaval yn dynita ha gwiryow. Yth yns i kemynnys gans reson ha kowses hag y tal dhedha gul dhe unn orth y gila yn spyrys a vrederedh.

Pob dyn oll eu geni'n rhydd a chynhafal mewn urddas a hawliau. ...bob un ei gymhwyso gyda rheswm (?) a ... gan.... un wrth eu gilydd yn ysbryd a brawdoliaeth.

I think it's something like 'All men are born free and equal in dignity and rights. ...each one is endowed with reason (?) and ... by .... one another in spirit and brotherhood.'

@Squishypenguins , found this on wiki

• Teague te(k)g- from Cornish "fair" or "beautiful"

Goodness my Cornish is way rusty so I can only just read this. The Welsh I can only guess at.

Some words are quite similar. The first sentence was easy, the 2nd wasn't and there's the odd word that looks a bit more English than Welsh and I've used context. I think the kowses is conscience and the yth yns is each one.

According to a site Kitto is Christopher. Can't remember which one.

The similarities are fascinating - for example, Upjohn means the same Jones - not that similar, but Jones is 'son of John'. ap (as in Rhun ap Iorwerth) is 'son of'. Jenkin is similar to Siencyn (pronounced Shenkin) etc. Well it's fascinating to me anyway.

Fair enough.

Regarding the pronunciation of Jago as "Jay-go" rather than "jah-go", my only explanation is that is what I have always heard it pronounced as!

I’ve loved this my whole life 😍

For Cornish ideas you could just browse an O.S. map of Cornwall and come up with something quite unsusual...
Joppa, Treave, Mayon, Raftra, Hella, Hendra, Morvah, Colenso...

"Meet baby Bosvargus..."

Regarding the pronunciation of Jago as "Jay-go" rather than "jah-go", my only explanation is that is what I have always heard it pronounced as! me too.
The pronunciation guide made it look like it should be Jago to rhyme with cargo, but I can't think of a Cornish name or word that would have that sort of 'ah' sound in it.

Love Fiadh

Is Hendra something like 'winter dwelling'?

It’s Jay-go round here