Irish baby girl names

[YourKindMoose]

What do you think of these Irish girl names?

Saoirse (seer-sha)
Aoife (ee-fa)
Etain (eh-tane)
Sadhbh (sive)
Béibhinn (bay-vin)

According to Wikipedia, it can be pronounced either way! But it looks like you're right re: it ending in binn so I guess it does come down to dialect around how binn is pronounced. So that seems to mean that the fada isn't required.

Everyone I have met in the UK and in Ireland know about the troubles between the UK and Ireland in the past. How could they not? Its recent history.
I didn't study history at school. What I know is from books I have read as an adult.
The troubles between the UK and Ireland is not recent history. It was over a 100 years ago.

It would be like saying someone in the Ukraine doesn't know about the war between the UKraine and Russia.
You are comparing something from the 18th and 19th Centuries to a war that is ongoing.

And 20th century. The main troubles in Northern Ireland happened in the late 20th century. That is not long ago.

Many probems in Northern Ireland are still ongoing today. There are ongoing conflicts between the descendants of the UK colonisers and the descendants of the Irish people In Northern Ireland

World war 2 happened in the 20th century. I have never met a European, who doesn't know about World War 2!

What?

Ireland only dropped the pledge of allegiance to the British crown in the late 1940s.

The troubles in the north of Ireland are very recent and have had a massive impact on both Irish and British history. Bizarre that you're suggesting the difficulties were left in the 18th and 19th centuries.

I was replying to the poster who said it is tacky to use Irish names in the UK.
It depends on context. If I used an Irish name just because I liked it, it would be tacky. I have no Irish heritage whatsoever.
An Irish couple I know have recently had a baby. The baby has an Irish name and I don't find that tacky at all. One of the couple has heritage (grandparents) from a different European country, but if they had used a name from that culture, it would be tacky.

Amen!

I saw she wrote 18th and 19th centuries, and I thought the same - what about the very recent huge conflict in Northern Ireland in the late 20th century?

The two sides in Northern Ireland were at war. There was constant violence, bombs amd shootings. The good friday peace agreement was only reached in 1998. This was when there was a ceasefire and lot of the mass bombings and killings stopped and a ceasefire between the two sides was reached.

But there is still conflict in Northern ireland to this day.

I think it's a bit tacky to use a name if you can't say it correctly eg I love the look of a few Welsh names but I can't hear where I'm going wrong and with Irish names my accent is non rhotic (I have an English accent) so as a pp said Orla becomes Awluh and, not good.

The oppression of the Irish by the British was in the 18th and 19th centuries.
The Troubles were in my lifetime, so are recent history, but were between unionist and republicans.

I was going to give my daughter an Irish name but thought if she lived abroad people would have difficulty pronouncing her name. We have an Irish surname which is also frequently mis pronounced!!

I think it's a bit tacky to use a name if you can't say it correctly eg I love the look of a few Welsh names but I can't hear where I'm going wrong and with Irish names my accent is non rhotic (I have an English accent) so as a pp said Orla becomes Awluh and, not good.

I’m sure OP can say them properly. She’s in Ireland, though for more unusual names people often need advice from native or fluent speakers regarding the correct pronunciation/s.

Ehhh. What? How do you think Northern Ireland was created? Northern Ireland was created because The UK forcefully took Northern Ireland from Ireland. That also happened in the 20th century. Northern Ireland was created in the 20th century.

You do know that the troubles in Northern Ireland were caused by the British oppressing the Irish. Right.

So the oppression of the Irish by the British- happened well into the late 20th century

The Troubles started as a civil rights movement as Catholics were being treated as second class citizens in NI.

Em, no. The troubles started because the governing body of NI allowed rampant and blatant discrimination against Catholics. Then the British sent in their Army who murdered civilians who just happened to be Catholic and culturally Irish.

The rest, sure let's categorise it as loyalists against republicans but that's overly simplistic and ignores the neglect of British government of their Catholic citizens who also considered themselves Irish.

I can't figure out if you're trolling or outrageously ill-informed

Relax lads. The English are not taught Irish history in school. They may learn a bit about it in f they study history in college(university)!

You do know that the troubles in Northern Ireland were caused PRECISELY because of the oppression of the Irish by the British?

Look up the history of Northern Ireland.

Ireland were forced to give Northern Ireland to the UK. They didnt hand it over willingly.

This csused the troubles in Northern Ireland

Agreed. If only they'd stop commenting on it and doubling down as if they do know it though....

But the thread has been derailed enough and Aoife remains, imo, the nicest name on op's list.

I'm not trolling. I said I don't know much about history. What I know is what I've learned from British books and British news media.

What happened in Northern Ireland in the second half of the century is the result of what happened in previous centuries, and you can't compare what happened in Northern Ireland to an ongoing war in the Ukraine.

@Dogaredabomb,
I think it's a bit tacky to use a name if you can't say it correctly eg I love the look of a few Welsh names
I can't hear where I'm going wrong
my accent is non rhotic
That sums it up. Some letter combinations are almost impossible if you've not been speaking Welsh from a very young age, and vowels in unstressed syllables don't become a schwa.

@Helenalove , You do know that the troubles in Northern Ireland were caused PRECISELY because of the oppression of the Irish by the British?
Yes, of course, but you said everyone will know. Things that happened over 25+ years ago won't mean much to people who are younger than that, unless they've been educated about it.

Would I think it tacky if a Russian parent used an Ukrainian name? I'd find it weird but I'd think they had Ukrainian heritage. Would I find it tacky if a Russian parent used an Azerbaijani/Estonian/... name? Yes.

I love Aine.

You wrote

"Things that happened over 25+ years ago won't mean much to people who are younger than that,"

I disagree to be honest.

I went to school about fifty years after world war two ended.

I knew a lot about the war from school , and also I read a lot of history books in my own time, and went to visit memoroal museums.

History is important

Anyway back to names.

I like Bláthnaid

Fuck me!!
If you're Irish you won't think "...troubles between the UK and Ireland is not recent history. It was over a 100 years ago."

What an ignorant statement!

I've now read your follow up posts @Emanwenym and you're deep in that hole by now... give it up.

Agree @Helenalove - we should get back to the names that OP asked about.

A friend recently named her baby Nuala, which i wasn't sure about at the time but now I think is really lovely.

That poster is not Irish.

But yes she has written some extremely ignorant statements.

Im joking but this thread could start a war . What she is writing is so crazy!

@aoife , I don't really care what you think, because my post was in reply to a post saying that 'everyone will know'.

Sadhbh is my favourite from your list OP.

If you don't know what happened, and you clearly don't.

Shouldn't you have written 'I don't know'

. Or you could use google to look up what happened, before writing incorrect, inflammatory comments.

If i didnt know exactly what was happening in the russia/ ukraine conflict I wouldnt just start writing years and dates that are wrong.