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Archie and the connoations

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inky1991 · 29/01/2023 21:30

So we're expecting a baby boy very soon. My husband and I don't agree on many names but we both really love the name Archie. I have personally wanted that name since I can remember.

As soon as Harry and Meghan announced they'd called their boy Archie, I was pissed off. They got there first as took us a very long time to conceive, and I knew when and if our time came, people might assume we copied them, or it would suddenly become mega over used.

Now I don't really need peoples opinions on the name itself, as I know these kind of names can be marmite on mumsnet as some see them at "cutesy" or whatever.

Anyway I just wanted to know what comes to your mind when you hear the name Archie? Do you immediately think of Harry and Meghan? My husband tells me to get over myself, and that people wouldn't think that, but he's not really up to date with any current affairs especially anything to do with Royal Family. My immediate family have made it pretty clear they aren't keen cause of connotations of H&M.

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Needmorelego · 29/01/2023 22:36

I think of my late father in law, a little boy we knew at baby group and a friend's hamster.

4thonthe4th · 29/01/2023 22:38

inky1991 · 29/01/2023 21:50

Is it really that extremely common? I'm under no illusions that it's unique or hardly ever used, but I literally know no Archie's. I ask all my friends with little boys how many there are in nursery etc and they all say none?

I'm aware it sits fairly high on top boys names lists, which is why I'm always surprised I don't hear of more. I hear of loads of Albie's, Arthur's and Arlo's though.

Maybe it's just not as common in my area

I have just counted up and between acquaintances, employees, children in DCs schools, DCs clubs & playgroups: I’ve met 14 Archie’s (that I can remember) in the last 8 years.
The first thing that comes to mind when I hear it isn’t H&M. It’s not a name I would use though.

4thonthe4th · 29/01/2023 22:39

Pinkdafodils · 29/01/2023 22:30

Archie, Alfie etc are starting to sound dated in a bad way imo

Agree.

MuckyPlucky · 29/01/2023 22:40

It’s so over-used that the association with H&M’s child will be diluted a lot.

lollipoprainbow · 29/01/2023 22:40

As soon as Harry and Meghan announced they'd called their boy Archie, I was pissed off. They got there first as took us a very long time to conceive

Get a grip Jesus

29052022J · 29/01/2023 22:41

My husband is an Archie and so is the neighbour’s dog. Makes for some confusion if he’s in the garden and I’m calling him from the kitchen 😂

CountTheTimes · 29/01/2023 22:44

inky1991 · 29/01/2023 22:23

Still can’t believe you wrote you were pissed off that they got there first.

Why? It's not that ridiculous. Probably the most famous couple in the world announce they've called their baby the name you've always wanted. It was a little irritating to me, yes.

Why? Because it’s such a popular name that it doesn’t matter how famous they are.

inky1991 · 29/01/2023 22:46

Pinkdafodils · 29/01/2023 22:30

Archie, Alfie etc are starting to sound dated in a bad way imo

You're probably right, but how can you be sure you won't choose a name that dates? These names are still making top of the lists so aren't dated as of yet. Of course, they might be one day though.

Is the only way to avoid dated names to call your child a classic name like Henry, Tom, George etc? Those names are fine but also really over used and not too exciting either IMO.

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BridieConvert · 29/01/2023 22:49

I work in a nursery and Archie reminds me of a cheeky wee boy we had last year! I never associate it with Harry and Megan.

UrsulaPandress · 29/01/2023 22:52

Call him whatever you want/ like. I’m

SleepingStandingUp · 29/01/2023 22:53

inky1991 · 29/01/2023 22:03

I didn't mind too much about it being a bit popular. I definitely wouldn't expect him to be the only one in his school with that name. Unique or really "out there" boys names aren't really my bag, I prefer them to be a little more classical. Girls names are much easier to go unique on IMO

I don't know any Archies. Good few Alfies's. I have nursery school kids and a primary one, lots of friends with kids that age and below. No Archies. And I wouldn't think of theirs when cuddling yours.

MuckyPlucky · 29/01/2023 22:53

inky1991 · 29/01/2023 22:46

You're probably right, but how can you be sure you won't choose a name that dates? These names are still making top of the lists so aren't dated as of yet. Of course, they might be one day though.

Is the only way to avoid dated names to call your child a classic name like Henry, Tom, George etc? Those names are fine but also really over used and not too exciting either IMO.

But Archie is also wildly overused. Far more so than your example of Tom (I’ve not heard of a Tom/Thomas born in all the time I’ve had kids).

I suspect you’ve not been round many children’s playground / nurseries etc, and you’re still thinking that the ‘popular’ names are the ones from your own childhood?

Archie was wildly popular when I had DC1 a decade ago; they were everywhere (and it had, unfairly, quite tacky connotations at one point). It’s definitely starting to date, along with all the Alfie’s, Charlie’s etc. Will be terribly dated in 5-10yrs.

TheaBrandt · 29/01/2023 22:54

The Harry and Meghan link isn’t the problem the fact it’s so common and over used would totally put me off. It’s not special any more it’s run of the mill. I was surprised they chose it.

MuckyPlucky · 29/01/2023 22:56

TheaBrandt · 29/01/2023 22:54

The Harry and Meghan link isn’t the problem the fact it’s so common and over used would totally put me off. It’s not special any more it’s run of the mill. I was surprised they chose it.

Snap. I was really surprised they went for something so over-used and ubiquitous. But I suspect in their circles they might not have come across many, as it’s only made a comeback amongst us common folk, so it probs seems terribly exotic to them, whereas it’s seen as a bit common as muck to us plebs! 😆

Changechangychange · 29/01/2023 22:59

MuckyPlucky · 29/01/2023 22:53

But Archie is also wildly overused. Far more so than your example of Tom (I’ve not heard of a Tom/Thomas born in all the time I’ve had kids).

I suspect you’ve not been round many children’s playground / nurseries etc, and you’re still thinking that the ‘popular’ names are the ones from your own childhood?

Archie was wildly popular when I had DC1 a decade ago; they were everywhere (and it had, unfairly, quite tacky connotations at one point). It’s definitely starting to date, along with all the Alfie’s, Charlie’s etc. Will be terribly dated in 5-10yrs.

This - I told DS some names of girls in my class at school (Jessica, Sarah, Katy, Anna, Nicola, Emma) and he literally fell about laughing and said “those are such weird names!”

The girls in his class are called Monroe, Kylie-Ann, Nevaeh, Phoebe, Olivia, Ava. All pretty weird names by 1980s standards, but things move on.

inky1991 · 29/01/2023 23:02

Some people saying it's wildly popular and some saying they haven't really met many

I suppose if I had met many Archie's I wouldn't be worried about H&M connotations, but I just haven't. Maybe the trend hasn't reached the depths of Cornwall yet where I'm from Grin

I'm also half Scottish, and I know Archie is a much less "trendy" and more classical name there. My Scottish routes another reason why I like the name

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SleepingStandingUp · 29/01/2023 23:05

Op just do it. You both like it, that's what matters.

inky1991 · 29/01/2023 23:07

SleepingStandingUp · 29/01/2023 23:05

Op just do it. You both like it, that's what matters.

Thank you Smile, we probably will

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LutherRalph1 · 29/01/2023 23:08

I have an Archie, born before the Royal one - he was the only one at his nursery and is the only one in his year. I was worried about it being too common but I've hardly come across any where I am

Judgyjudgy · 29/01/2023 23:09

Don't like the name anyway, but people thinking you copied H&M would put me off

Motelschmotel · 29/01/2023 23:11

My thoughts are:

  1. nicknames as given names are weird
  2. archibald is weird (would you call your daughter Guinevere?)
  3. Harry and meghan
  4. oh yes, I remember how weird it was that Harry and Meghan went with such a common name, and a nickname at that. It’s Just Not Proper 😂
Longdarkcloud · 29/01/2023 23:12

The first thing I associate with the name is a ventriloquist’s dummy that appeared on a radio programme when I was a child. Never met an Archie until comparatively recently when suddenly the floodgates opened and every 10th child and dog seemed to be called it. If anything I think H & M using the name will cool the demand because parents won’t want to be thought to copy them.
If you are really keen to use the name why not. If anyone every mentions H&M just tell them what you wrote on this thread.
Dont rush to register your precious wee one — you’ve got plenty of time and if you happened to get irritated by people’s response to your choice you can reconsider.
Good luck

user1471453601 · 29/01/2023 23:13

Archie and the Connotations. Great name for a group

Zipadeebooyah · 29/01/2023 23:16

I'm also half Scottish, and I know Archie is a much less "trendy" and more classical name there. My Scottish routes another reason why I like the name

You've got to be joking. Every other sproglet here is called Archie. It's so common it's dull.

You seem to have a serious fixation with this name and keen to defend it against any criticism. But as an actual Scottish person let me tell you it's trendy and common as muck up here too. Every lad is an Archie or an Oliver.

Surely there are other names you like?

The fact that you were upset at H&M naming their son Archie, and that they somehow beat you to it, tells me it's maybe time to let this name go and move on. There are a million nicer names that bloody Archie.

Soproudoflionesses · 29/01/2023 23:17

Suprima · 29/01/2023 21:43

No, I think of the extremely common boy’s name Archie

I was surprised when h and m used it

I agree with this

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