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Áine… If we’re not Irish?

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bumpabroad · 19/05/2022 09:52

My partner and I are expecting a baby girl in the next couple of weeks and are still a long way off giving her a name. I want something quite ‘strong’ sounding and my partner is keen to give her a name that’s associated with (or at least he associates with!) her being born in late spring/early summer as it’s his favourite time of year.

I’ve come across Áine and I really like it. However, as I’ve said in my thread title we are not Irish. My partner has 2 Irish grandparents/great-grandparents and I have some Irish heritage from a few generations back, but that is it. So I was wondering if it would be considered;

a) culturally a bit insensitive
b) just plain weird

to call her Áine? If the general consensus is yes to either/both then I won’t do it… but any other name suggestions would be gratefully received! 😳

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bumpabroad · 21/05/2022 19:05

OchonAgusOchonOh · 21/05/2022 18:16

So all of us Irish people who have agreed that the op's pronunciation was correct are obviously mistaken?

Most people can figure out how to pronounce a name after a couple of corrections unless it has sounds in it that don't exist in your native tongue. It's a very straightforward pronunciation for someone who speaks English so maybe give them a bit more credit. Unless they are being deliberately rude, any English person will get to grips with it very quickly.

This was essentially my thinking. Even if you hadn’t heard it before (which I’m assuming lots of English people won’t have done), it’s not a difficult name to pronounce once you’ve been told how to pronounce it… if that makes sense.

Thank you to everyone for the comments, and it’s interesting to see the differences in pronunciation. I guess that’s to be expected when there are a wide range of different accents!

We do really like it, so it’s definitely an option for us. I don’t want to use Anya, because as much as it’s a perfectly nice name it doesn’t really have the same meaning behind it. I think it’s a different name more than an anglicisation?

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breadedchicken · 21/05/2022 19:20

I'm Irish and think having an Irish grandparent on one side is a perfectly reasonable link. Lovely name and people not knowing how to pronounce it wouldn't turn me off.

I'm always surprised at people giving that as a reason not to use a name. Especially people in the UK, aren't there huge populations of ethnicities other than white British with names from their own cultures?

MurderAtTheBeautyPageant · 21/05/2022 19:34

Does any other Irish person who went to primary school in the 1980s associate the name Áine with the Fás readers?

Áine… If we’re not Irish?
Firelogbridge · 21/05/2022 20:03

@bumpabroad it's the same name but said differently in different dialects. It's like saying
A-R- thur and Aw-Thur and not saying the 'r'. Different sounds but the same name.

haveasmile · 05/11/2023 12:24

Áine is a gorgeous name. I'm Irish and yes, I find English friends always mispronounce it into something like "Onya" (which is a pity as it makes this lovely name sound a little like 'onions'). The "Á" (long a) is very common in the Irish language, but the English rarely use its English language equivalent, diphthong 'aw', though it does exist in English (think 'saw' or 'lawn'). One way to help them is to get them to imagine there's an 'r' in the name, and pronounce it 'Arnya'. Because their 'r' is non-rhotic, it takes them as close to the proper pronunciation as they can get. Very recently, there was much hoo-haa about the pronunciaiton of Storm Ciarán, for the same reason. The BBC weather presenters were all (hesitatingly) pronouncing this name as kier-On, even after instruction that it's actually Keir-awn. Again, getting them to stick an 'r' in it, gets them there - keir-arn.

peaceinourtime · 05/11/2023 13:03

Its a nice name but she will probably wind up being an Annie

Eiris · 05/11/2023 15:11

OP, how do you connect Áine with spring/summer?

alpaca44 · 05/11/2023 15:26

I knew an Aine and it was pronounced On-ya.

I think it would be a bit strange to use that name if you have no Irish connections

ManchesterLu · 05/11/2023 15:48

It's a nice name but you're setting her up for a lifetime of people not being able to spell or pronounce her name, which can be very annoying.

Deadringer · 05/11/2023 15:53

I think it could be tricky for people to spell/pronounce. What about Cara or Fia, easy to spell and say. (Fiadh is the proper spelling but I have seen lots of people spell it Fia)

mathanxiety · 05/11/2023 15:54

I'm Irish and I wouldn't consider it odd or weird or culturally problematic at all.

Make sure you keep the fada.

Another strong spring female figure would be Brigid/ Brighid/ Bridget .

mathanxiety · 05/11/2023 15:56

daisyjgrey · 19/05/2022 13:11

I had a dentist who wasn't obviously Irish (if we're being stereotypical) called Áine. It's a really nice name. Pronounced like Anya, or that's how she said it.

It's not pronounced Anya.

It's AWN-yeh.

Deadringer · 05/11/2023 15:57

Oooops just saw that this is an old thread. What did you call her op?

mathanxiety · 05/11/2023 15:57

Even in Ulster Irish the A sound in Aine is differentiated from the A sound in Anna. It's not quite Ann-ya.

TwirlBar · 05/11/2023 16:34

Deadringer · 05/11/2023 15:53

I think it could be tricky for people to spell/pronounce. What about Cara or Fia, easy to spell and say. (Fiadh is the proper spelling but I have seen lots of people spell it Fia)

Fia isn't wrong. It's the more modern spelling.

bumpabroad · 05/11/2023 17:01

Eiris · 05/11/2023 15:11

OP, how do you connect Áine with spring/summer?

Because she’s a goddess of summer?

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Berlinlover · 05/11/2023 17:06

Unless you’re in Ireland it will never be pronounced correctly, I would choose another name.

bumpabroad · 05/11/2023 17:19

Deadringer · 05/11/2023 15:57

Oooops just saw that this is an old thread. What did you call her op?

Haha, yes, I was very surprised to get an email notification for this thread! She arrived safely a few weeks after I started this thread 😊

The actual name we gave her is fairly unusual (as is not in the top 500) so I’d rather not say in case it’s outing when combined with my other posts! It is another beautiful name with a lovely meaning tbough.

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TwirlBar · 05/11/2023 17:35

Congrats!🧸

Dipsomaniax · 05/11/2023 17:41

Not at all culturally insensitive and as others have said it's pronounced Awn (like the first part of awning) Ya, and is a lovely name.

I would try to find a phonetic spelling of it though as my Irish friends have had terrible trouble with their Irish names in the UK. Or stick to your guns and go with Áine (the fada is important because it turns the A into an awww sound - like Seán). People learn eventually as many British born Siobhán's and Niamh's will attest to.

Dipsomaniax · 05/11/2023 17:42

Oops, just saw your update 😳
Congratulations and enjoy your beautiful little baby girl ❤

Daisybuttercup12345 · 06/11/2023 21:53

Onya bike type jokes or onya way?
Or Anya so she always has to correct people.
Anne?

JaneJeffer · 06/11/2023 22:04

Daisybuttercup12345 · 06/11/2023 21:53

Onya bike type jokes or onya way?
Or Anya so she always has to correct people.
Anne?

It's not pronounced onya

Eiris · 07/11/2023 07:35

Oh yes, the goddess. I never think of her when I think of the name... know too many real-life Áine goddesses!
Just to add to the pronunciation discussion, I'd pronounce this much like "Anna" or "Annie". To get the y sound, you need the spelling "Áinne" like in "Gráinne". But that battle is lost, Learner Irish is a dialect now, and slender n has a y. Cibé.
I wouldn't spell it in Irish while outside of Ireland because I'm really not sure what the value is of the world knowing that there are names that defy English phonics. I'd much rather meet kids with names like Anna, Keira, Neve who can speak a bit of the language, than Áine, Ciara and Niamh whose only Irish is their name.

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