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Niamh

75 replies

ilovemykids5 · 16/12/2021 11:55

Would you keep this spelling. I think it looks prettier as Neve.
We are not Irish but do have an Irish surname.

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grandmashotdoodlebugs · 17/12/2021 20:47

Work in a school.
This year we got a
Niamh
Neve
Nieve

Only Niamh seems to stick with the teachers because the other two are always spelt wrong

Icantremembermyusername · 17/12/2021 21:07

@SeanChailleach I have a Niamh! I like the idea she gives a good, solid hug - because she does!
No issues with pronunciation.
No cultural appropriation. I am Celtic.
Call your child what you like, but let nursery / school know how to pronounce it! Because people will get it wrong!

AnFiaRuaNua · 17/12/2021 21:18

I think it was in the top 100 names in the uk when i was naming my dc
So not that rare.

EishetChayil · 18/12/2021 10:32

Niamh is pronounced more like Nee-uv. Not Neve.

AppleKatie · 18/12/2021 10:42

I think the Neve Nee-uv pronunciation is regional within Ireland so I don’t think it’s quite as simple as right and wrong..

Showercurtainofdoom · 18/12/2021 10:44

I think it's very sad and rather telling of people to advise you to change the spelling. It's a big world out there, there are names from other lands/places/countries. If someone doesn't know it, tell them how to pronounce and move on. Would you say the same about an Indian name or a Spanish name?

LizzieAnt · 18/12/2021 11:49

@AppleKatie

I think the Neve Nee-uv pronunciation is regional within Ireland so I don’t think it’s quite as simple as right and wrong..
You're absolutely right, many Irish people do say Neve rather than Nee-uv, especially in some regions. The Irish language pronunciation of the name is never Neve though, it's simply not how that combination of letters (Niamh) is said in modern Irish. I think the Neve pronunciation may have arisen because Ireland is predominately English speaking now, not Irish speaking.
BeingATwatItsABingThing · 18/12/2021 11:54

@SeanChailleach

Do scríobh Fia Niamh captures the Tir na nog other wordliness but Neve just looks like a 3rd generation American took a crack at using an Irish name. For some reason all Niamh-like people I have met are sensible shoes type of women. The sort who is on the hockey team and organises the raffle. I suppose it does mean misty and cloudy and ethereal but it feels like a lovely solid hug however it's spelled.
The Niamh I know is absolutely not a sensible shoes type of woman. She is fantastic and really quirky!
AnonymousArmadillo · 18/12/2021 11:56

I have an Aoife (DH’s whole family are Irish but he was born in England) and, after the initial pronunciation/spelling questions, people are fine with both.

I would 100% use Niamh as the spelling because it is correct and looks much better than Neve.

RaraRachael · 18/12/2021 11:59

I prefer traditional spellings but you could run the risk of her getting called Ny-amm (as my mother thought it was pronounced)

SeanChailleach · 18/12/2021 23:21

Irish sources for Neve
Naomh/ naoimh
Néimh as original/alternate form of Niamh
Néimh as dative of Niamh

KarmaViolet · 18/12/2021 23:29

[quote XmasSadface]@MrsFin
Those arent names from cultures that have traditionally faced discrimination in a British context though.[/quote]
What, even the Welsh and Cornish ones on the list?!

Gensola · 18/12/2021 23:37

I’m Irish and I have never heard anyone pronouncing Niamh as anything other than Neeve 😀 I think the Nee-uv thing is regional therefore.
I also think it’s nonsense to say it’s appropriation to call your child Niamh in the UK. Go for it!

DeclareThePenniesOnYourEyes · 18/12/2021 23:40

Neve is just wrong. Like spelling Siobhan “Chevonne”. Keep the Niamh spelling. I know a little Niamh in London, people manage to pronounce her name just fine.

MissM2912 · 18/12/2021 23:50

Xmassadface are you Irish??
Because I am and couldn’t care less if someone not from Ireland called their child an Irish name- that’s totally ridiculous!! By that logic no one in Ireland should call their child traditional English names, or French. Catch yourself on!

oviraptor21 · 18/12/2021 23:56

@XmasSadface

I love the name but it feels like appropriation
If we go down that route then all my kids have appropriated names. On my part it was a mark of appreciation and respect for other countries. Niamh is not so uncommon as to be a problem. It's much more likely spelling than Neve (I don't know any spelled this way) so you are likely to get some issues whichever you choose. And Niamh is much prettier.
Kite22 · 19/12/2021 00:06

Neve hurts my eyes

This
I mean, I'm not particularly fond of the name, but if you are going to use it, then at least spell it right.

Classica · 19/12/2021 03:20

@Gensola

I’m Irish and I have never heard anyone pronouncing Niamh as anything other than Neeve 😀 I think the Nee-uv thing is regional therefore. I also think it’s nonsense to say it’s appropriation to call your child Niamh in the UK. Go for it!
Confused

Anyone who has a basic grasp of Irish can see it's a two syllable word. So I will counter your statement by saying the 101 Niamhs I know are all nee-uv

Classica · 19/12/2021 03:20

and the nee-uvs i know are from all over.

Balthazaria · 19/12/2021 07:32

I would go with Niamh.

If you like the look of Neve, you might consider Neva, it means snow in Spanish. Great for a winter baby! I know a lovely adult Neva who runs a language school in a ski resort! Very fitting. Grin

SeanChailleach · 19/12/2021 07:37

Neve is also an Italian name meaning snow.
It's cognate with the Irish word.
I am coming round to Nimbo as a name though.

SeanChailleach · 19/12/2021 08:15

Anyone who has a basic grasp of Irish can see it's a two syllable word

Ach i nGaeilge bíonn focail dhá shiolla mar "scéal", "éan", a dheirtear mar aon siolla amháin ó gcanúint eile.

Shki-al / shkel
i-an / en

Déanaim go ndeirtear "jeefree" do "d'fhiafraigh".
Agus cad a dhuart i mo phost níos lú. Is ionann "Niamh"agus "néimh" agus mar sin

sashagabadon · 19/12/2021 08:21

Niamh is not an unusual name in England. There were two in my daughters class so it was the most common name!

RosieLemonade · 19/12/2021 17:07

My daughter is Neve. Pronounced N-eve. It was my grandparents surname so I am pretty sure it is a real name.

OnaBegonia · 19/12/2021 18:04

Please do use the correct spelling.
I have an Eilidh and was incredulous for a school mum to tell me she'd heard her name and rather than asked the spelling named her baby Ayley!! The misspelled versions are just silly.
Most people are familiar with Gaelic/Irish names now.

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