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Shall we change the spelling? (Cillian)

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Alwaysundecided · 04/03/2020 09:05

We have named our newborn baby Cillian.
He is half Irish. We have had good reactions to the name by most of our friends and both families like the name. The Irish side are obviously very familiar with it and the English side weren't familiar but seem to like it.
Only issue is about 70% of people initially pronounce it Sillian!!
Even people who know Cillian Murphy often just assumed he was Sillian Murphy.
I'm starting to have doubts and was tempted to change the name altogether but we dont have any other names we agree on so would be starting from scratch. His older brother loves his name too (calls him Cilly bean and Cilly bear) and I feel like changing it now would be confusing.
We are considering changing the spelling to Kilian or Killian. Both appear to be recognised spellings.
What do you all think?
Kilian appears to be most popular in Germany and is probably my fave of the two as it doesn't have 'Kill' in it.
With Cillian I don't see the 'Kill' and I think it's quite a gentle name, 'Killian' looks too strong to me.
Thoughts? Alternatively maybe correcting people once isn't the end of the world??
Got 3 weeks to register him. Please be nice, thanks.

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Maduixa · 05/03/2020 08:00

I'm Scottish with Irish background/family, and DP is French. We have Kilian on our list and chose that specific spelling because it is the most common French version (Killian and Kylian are also used). My understanding is that Cillian, Cillín, Killian, and Kilian are all acceptable forms in Ireland, but the K- versions are definitely anglicised. (We also have Ciarán as an option - no thought of Kieran, since there is no French version of the name. )

If you originally loved Cillian, I don't see a reason to change it!

Isthistrueor · 05/03/2020 13:14

I thought it was pronounced sillyan tbh.

Lllot5 · 05/03/2020 13:19

I thought it was sillian
Not sure who the actor is so that doesn’t help. But I’m sure once people know it a hard c it’ll be fine.

OldEvilOwl · 05/03/2020 13:34

Leave it

Alwaysundecided · 06/03/2020 17:09

Thanks all, I think we've decided to stick with Cillian. As much as I'm getting annoyed correcting people I feel like Kilian is a departure from the Irishness of the name. If in the future he finds it difficult we can just change it to Kilian then.
I do sometimes wish we had gone for something more straightforward but when we actually consider alternatives I feel a sense of sadness that he won't have his birth name and he won't be my little Cillian.
I think that's a sign I should stick with it!

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eggandonion · 06/03/2020 18:57

Where I live there are ciarans and Kierans. If necessary they can say it's with a k. It's not difficult!

DramaAlpaca · 07/03/2020 00:51

I'm glad you are sticking with Cillian, the correct spelling of a lovely Irish name.

BooFuckingHoo2 · 07/03/2020 01:02

Cillian is lovely....afraid to say I don’t find it so nice with a K!

00QI · 22/10/2023 22:21

Leave it, Cillian!

00QI · 23/10/2023 01:16

Tbh, it really frustrates me that people are hating on the name "Cillian". Yes, it may be mispronounced "Sillian" but that's only because of C in English. In Irish, C is always hard. If anything, the K spelling "Killian" is just a bastardization and imposition. Basically, this is what happens under British rule. It was the American's decision to adopt English. It's all the French's fault for invading England and imposing English with soft C and Hard C. And I honestly don't understand why people want to spell "Katherine" instead of "Catherine". The main reason is K looks sharper than C which is a discrimination of looks. Catherine/Katherine (from Catriona), Cillian/Killian are all Irish names. And to make peace, why did the Americans have to anglicize the Irish names and bastardize hem with letters that don't exist. How about, they come up with their own names. It's all America's fault of bastardizing Irish names. Infact, there is no irish K name. Every single one of them is artificial and C is the original letter. If anything, the K sucks because, firstly, Irish has no K and is just a bastardization and secondly, it makes too many sounds in Scandinavian languages and there is almost no history behind how that happened. C in Irish is unambiguous. Completely unambiguous.

MingVase · 23/10/2023 05:26

00QI · 23/10/2023 01:16

Tbh, it really frustrates me that people are hating on the name "Cillian". Yes, it may be mispronounced "Sillian" but that's only because of C in English. In Irish, C is always hard. If anything, the K spelling "Killian" is just a bastardization and imposition. Basically, this is what happens under British rule. It was the American's decision to adopt English. It's all the French's fault for invading England and imposing English with soft C and Hard C. And I honestly don't understand why people want to spell "Katherine" instead of "Catherine". The main reason is K looks sharper than C which is a discrimination of looks. Catherine/Katherine (from Catriona), Cillian/Killian are all Irish names. And to make peace, why did the Americans have to anglicize the Irish names and bastardize hem with letters that don't exist. How about, they come up with their own names. It's all America's fault of bastardizing Irish names. Infact, there is no irish K name. Every single one of them is artificial and C is the original letter. If anything, the K sucks because, firstly, Irish has no K and is just a bastardization and secondly, it makes too many sounds in Scandinavian languages and there is almost no history behind how that happened. C in Irish is unambiguous. Completely unambiguous.

This is completely incoherent. At least decide who you’re blaming?

00QI · 23/10/2023 06:43

Im sorry @MingVase , I just felt drunk which made me accidentally say this. I'm really sorry...

MingVase · 23/10/2023 06:50

00QI · 23/10/2023 06:43

Im sorry @MingVase , I just felt drunk which made me accidentally say this. I'm really sorry...

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You are also ranting about the ‘French’ invading England, Americans ‘deciding to adopt English’, Americans ‘bastardising’ Irish names, the letter K for looking ‘sharper’ than C, and the use of K in Scandinavian languages.

In the kindest possible way, I think you should go and lie down.

00QI · 23/10/2023 06:51

my bad!

00QI · 23/10/2023 06:57

MingVase · 23/10/2023 06:50

You are also ranting about the ‘French’ invading England, Americans ‘deciding to adopt English’, Americans ‘bastardising’ Irish names, the letter K for looking ‘sharper’ than C, and the use of K in Scandinavian languages.

In the kindest possible way, I think you should go and lie down.

I'm sorry, sometimes my mind doesn't work well in these kind of situations

Daisybuttercup12345 · 23/10/2023 17:46

I think Killian looks horrible and rough. I'd stick with C.

Paperpurple · 23/10/2023 18:23

Zombie thread

theduchessofspork · 23/10/2023 21:21

Nah - leave it - it’s getting better known, and with a K it is a little close to Kill, two Ls or no.

theduchessofspork · 23/10/2023 21:22

ZOMBIE THREAD (soz)

Alwaysundecided · 24/10/2023 23:11

We didn't change it 🙂 and we love it. He's 3 and a half now and loves his name.

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NewShoes · 25/10/2023 12:19

What a beautiful name - I’d keep it just as it is!

CanIPetThatDawg · 25/10/2023 14:06

Daisybuttercup12345 · 23/10/2023 17:46

I think Killian looks horrible and rough. I'd stick with C.

I know it's a zombie thread but honestly this is such a silly comment. I know people on Mumsnet are allergic to the letter K (not quite sure why) but Killian is absolutely fine. There are many of them in Ireland and in fact it would have been the more popular spelling not that many years ago.

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