to be eating copious amounts of Danish Blue cheese on crusty bread whilst being pregnant?

[kidcreoleandthecoconuts]

And I'm enjoying it....yum!

[Fibilou]

"It's not about food poisoning, it's about listeria"

Erm, listeria is food poisoning

[iateallthecreameggsyummy]

well the pate and steak and blue cheese definately! as for the wine I will look into whether i can have a tiny sip, im sure it wont hurt as yes I am planning on breastfeeding

And yes im 30 weeks pregnant and have enjoyed the very rare bottle of lager and glass of red wine. In fact have evn had caffeine, amusing seeing as its the quit smoking midwife who comes to visit me asking for fresh strong coffee, which we sit and indulge together (but no I dont smoke!)

So far my baby is doing fine.

[Thandeka]

listeria also causes miscarriage/stillbirth.

For me I'm not too worried about risk of food poisoning but something that could kill my unborn child am not so worried about.

[Serennos]

I think pg women are more at risk of contracting Listeria / Salmonella (sp? do they have capitals?) because of having slightly suppressed immune systems.

I'm pg - can I really eat dippy kite marked eggs? Really? Oh happy, happy day! That's tea sorted then

[AtheneNoctua]

melted cheese is okay because you have cooked it. I used to have forbidden cheese but jst toast it first. Oh yum. The one thing I really missed was sushi... but I did dtill eat the cooked kind.

[Fibilou]

I read somewhere that this "alcohol goes into breastmilk" is a fallacy - I wish I could remember where I saw it.
It's lighter or something and therefore cannot mix with the milk. Something like that.

[somewhathorrified]

Do what makes you happy, you want to eat blue cheese go for it. Stuff happens in pregnancy, it's called nature, not literia. The whole "you can't" culture just causes mom to be stressed and unhappy and gives everyone else something to point at and blame if things go wrong.

[Fibilou]

Yes, listeria can cause stillbirth - it's still food-borne !

[meridian]

I had blue cheese dressing (it is processed and such though)when I was in the US visiting my parents when I was pregnant with DS (age 6) ...

and a horrible amount of milkshakes, whippy ice creams and frappchinos... [hmmm] mind I did puke it all back up within 5 or ten minutes due to the joy that is hyperemisis...

I was desperate for a black and blue cheeseburger from ok diner with oodles of stilton) my whole pregnancy and DH promised me one when I had DS .. shame the OK Diner got put on the back of a truck and driven away from where it had been for the past however many years.. I was not amused...infact I cried

[BitOfFun]

Well, I can report that the dippy egg was done to perfection

[kidcreoleandthecoconuts]

Well done BitOfFun. I hope you enjoyed it.

[Morloth]

I ignore it all. About the only change I have made is to eat some more carbs.

I live well, everything in moderation...blah blah blah.

Bubs gets quite jumpy in the morning until I sit down with my coffee, then he goes all flowy...

[lulabellarama]

thesecondcoming Pate has been on the list for YEARS, as has soft cheese. Rare steak is a stupid one, so ignore that. Avoid lettuce, but only because it's boring.

[iateallthecreameggsyummy]

pretty much everything nice is of the list as edible from what i gather and then when OP or someone like OP admits to indulging once in a while they get slaughtered and accused of harming their child.

Its hard pleasing everyone

[ChristmasMoon]

I trust you followed my instructions then BOF?

[BitOfFun]

I did- you may have my linky of the day

[lulabellarama]

Fish pate is FINE.
I'm alright, dossing about at work as per though.
More importantly, how are you?

[mathanxiety]

Dear god, they're taking blue cheese away. I lived on it through 5 pregnancies. Plus all the other mouldy type cheeses I could lay my hands on. And pate. I did avoid alcohol though. But my gran was told to have a guinness every day while pg back in the day. (Way back)

People love to make up rules for pregnant women. I have a feeling there's always a cultural context to all this hard and fast banning, though. I would be interested to hear what French doctors advise about cheese. I heard they don't proscribe wine.

[Fibilou]

The rare meat thing is due to the infinitissimal risk of toxoplasmosis - which isn't destroyed unless meat is well cooked.

Interestingly enough I had a look at some figures.
The total maternal mortality rate in the UK between 2003 -2005 was 13.95 per 100,000 live births.
The chief medical officer estimates contraction of listeriosis in pregnant women to be 1 per 30,0000 - both live and stillbirths.

Therefore you are massively more at risk of dying as a result of pregnancy and birth that listeriosis, but we aren't told to avoid that, are we

[Morloth]

I think lulabellarama has it right, we shouldn't be eating boring things.

From now on when offered food I don't want I shall say "I am sorry, I am pregnant and may only eat fabulous things..."

[Fibilou]

Mathanxiety, I looked at the french recommendations - no unpasteurised cheese. Don't think anyone pays attention to it though

[groundhogs]

Yes, I heard that French Mums to be weren't subject to the same restrictions as we were... can anyone elaborate?

[mathanxiety]

Did Louis Pasteur's mum eat unpasteurised cheese?