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.. to think this would blow some minds?

119 replies

BeepBoopBop · Today 07:56

….. standing next to my van, loading my stuff into it when a black Volvo pulls up behind me and the female driver asks if I’m leaving. I tell her no not yet so she thanks me and reverses back a little and stops and asks if the two men in a van (having a tea break) are leaving. They tell her the same thing, so she asks if it’s okay to leave the car in front of the van as she only needs five minutes. They say it’s fine and she says great, I’ll leave the keys in it just in case they need to leave and then off she pops.
Two minutes later, a car opposite starts up and the driver can’t manoeuvre out. as her car is in the way. Van driver jumps out and gets in her car to move it. At which stage, two startled heads pop up in the back. She had left the keys and her two young kids in her car.
Van driver lets the other driver out and neatly parks Volvo in the now vacant space.
Could you see this happening in the UK? By this time it was about 10 minutes - I wonder what she thought as she came back to the car park and saw her car wasn’t sitting where she left it?

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Ireallycantthinkofagoodone · Today 13:43

catipuss · Today 12:28

You haven't seen the state of my living room, I would be totally embarrassed.

Apart from that it also makes it very obvious whether anyone is home or not if there are thieves around.

I never close my sitting room curtains! I live in a quiet cul-de-sac, have lamps on timers, so whether I am in, out, or even on holiday, no-one would be any the wiser. It helps that the driveway and road slopes away, so my windows are a bit higher for ‘seeing in’. I can always tell when several of my neighbours are away, as they leave their curtains closed halfway. A dead giveaway for burglars, imho.

agentmarmalade · Today 13:53

That's a really bad thing to do. What was she thinking?

Theysignoffquick · Today 13:56

I’m not clear what part of the “story” the OP is so confident will “blow our minds”

XelaM · Today 13:59

DontReplyAll · Today 08:16

Thankfully the baby was fine, slept through the whole thing.

The car thief abandoned the car a short distance away on discovering the baby. The poor Mum was very, very shocked of course.

Omg she was so lucky! There was definitely a case in the news not that long ago where a father left the car running to pop to a shop with the baby sleeping in the back and the car was stolen and baby killed.

XelaM · Today 14:02

Theysignoffquick · Today 13:56

I’m not clear what part of the “story” the OP is so confident will “blow our minds”

Don't you think it's quite unusual to hand over keys to your car to strangers whilst you pop out and 2 kids are in the car?

Theysignoffquick · Today 14:03

XelaM · Today 14:02

Don't you think it's quite unusual to hand over keys to your car to strangers whilst you pop out and 2 kids are in the car?

Indeed

but was it the absolutely reckless parenting of the mum
Or the all the other stuff about the van drivers moving the car and how wonderful France is?

Theysignoffquick · Today 14:04

XelaM · Today 14:02

Don't you think it's quite unusual to hand over keys to your car to strangers whilst you pop out and 2 kids are in the car?

I think you need to reread. She didn’t hand over the keys. She left them in the car with the children unattended

Dragonscaledaisy · Today 14:06

Northermcharn · Today 10:25

My friend lives in Saudi Arabia. She never locks the house, cars, she leaves her bike outside no lock, her kids can roam around the shopping centres on their own for fun, she wears expensive jewellery and a nice watch without fear of them being snatched, same with her phone.

None of the above applies in European towns and cities. None of it. It is so much safer there.

Apart from the kids, I do pretty much all of those things and have done for years.

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ConnieHeart · Today 14:09

Mankini · Today 13:05

This happened to me at Legoland about 15 years ago - a Japanese man was at the top of a waterslide with two small children. The smaller one wanted to go and the other outright refused to go without him (it was a 1 or 2 person at a time ride). So he asked the rest of the immediate queue (group of random women) to look after Child 2 while he went down, left child 1 with mum who was waving from the bottom, then ran back up. Some of the other women were huffing and saying 'well, we could be anyone - we could be paedophiles'. I thought they were bonkers - it was a public place and perfectly reasonable for the sake of 3 minutes or so.

Similar happened to me. I was manning an activity stall at a fete & this guy came over with 2 very young girls. They started colouring etc. I thought i heard him say 'I'm just getting a coffee' but thought I'd misheard. He then strode off leaving them! I couldn't leave the stall to go after him. After about 10 mins he came back. I did tell him that we weren't a childcare facility!

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · Today 14:09

VickyEadieofThigh · Today 08:50

It'll be the same Neverland where the posters live who never lock their doors, not even at night.

To be fair, I think it would be pretty safe to do this in the place where my parents moved after retirement. They bought the house off plan the year before they moved and as the building work was being finalised they were asked to choose which kitchen worktops and cupboards they wanted, finish of bathroom fixtures and other minor variants from standard. They asked for a burglar alarm to be installed. The builder was very surprised but complied. It's never been used once. The house stood unlocked from morning till bedtime while they were in. Out of habit it gets locked overnight. It's the kind of place where the local paper reports the police attending reports of public drunkenness. Not too long since they reported every outing made by the fire engine.

Where we live (Inner London) things are somewhat different.

Greenfinch7 · Today 14:15

scienceteachersarefun · Today 09:07

Indeed. My favourite was the one where the poster berated folks in the UK for closing curtains and blinds at night. Where they live, there is no need! People benefit from the lit up houses, and aren't so uptight that they care about privacy. 🙄

Very common in the Netherlands- Dutch reform.

I think it's great there are places left where the story in the OP can happen.

I often leave my door unlocked, even at night...

Ireallycantthinkofagoodone · Today 14:40

BIossomtoes · Today 13:36

Totally normal. I came out of a local shop one day and got halfway down the street before it dawned on me that I’d left the pram and baby outside the shop. 😱

🤣 I probably did the same!

VickyEadieofThigh · Today 14:46

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · Today 14:09

To be fair, I think it would be pretty safe to do this in the place where my parents moved after retirement. They bought the house off plan the year before they moved and as the building work was being finalised they were asked to choose which kitchen worktops and cupboards they wanted, finish of bathroom fixtures and other minor variants from standard. They asked for a burglar alarm to be installed. The builder was very surprised but complied. It's never been used once. The house stood unlocked from morning till bedtime while they were in. Out of habit it gets locked overnight. It's the kind of place where the local paper reports the police attending reports of public drunkenness. Not too long since they reported every outing made by the fire engine.

Where we live (Inner London) things are somewhat different.

I've told the story many times on here about my friend's mum and DP who lived in a similar area, assumed not locking the door was fine - until thugs burst in, beat them up, tied them up and robbed them. Police: "They target houses they suspect will be unlocked - remote, rural areas and old people's bungalows are favourites."

As I said earlier, it takes a second or two to lock your door - and what does anyone actually gain from not doing so?

MyTrivia · Today 14:48

Jeez.

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · Today 15:08

Maybe there's something to be said for the unpredicability of the Calmac service after all! I think robbers can find easier targets without the risk of being unable to make a quick getaway from the island.

wifeofeverything · Today 15:09

VickyEadieofThigh · Today 08:50

It'll be the same Neverland where the posters live who never lock their doors, not even at night.

I don't lock my door at night. I live down a long lane with a locked gate. Have never felt unsafe.

OtherS · Today 15:15

Home counties and often don't lock my door when I go out, or close my downstairs windows. Also often leave my handbag in unlocked car, often with keys inside, while I go for a walk. I do reflect I am extremely lucky to live where I feel safe enough to do that. Wouldn't leave the kids (or dogs) in an unlocked car and wander off out of sight though, with or without keys.

scienceteachersarefun · Today 15:40

VickyEadieofThigh · Today 14:46

I've told the story many times on here about my friend's mum and DP who lived in a similar area, assumed not locking the door was fine - until thugs burst in, beat them up, tied them up and robbed them. Police: "They target houses they suspect will be unlocked - remote, rural areas and old people's bungalows are favourites."

As I said earlier, it takes a second or two to lock your door - and what does anyone actually gain from not doing so?

I think that's a fair point. It's a low risk, probably, but why take the risk?

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