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To think saving on Universal Credit is extremely difficult?

473 replies

FirmGreyMember · Yesterday 20:42

It feels like Universal Credit doesn’t really leave much room for saving once basic living costs are covered. I know in theory people say to put even small amounts aside but in practice it seems very difficult when most of the money goes on essentials.

AIBU to think there’s very little opportunity to build savings on UC?

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MummytoCSJH · Yesterday 21:25

Fluffordirt · Yesterday 20:47

It’s supposed to tide you over until you get working again. If you’ve got enough to save then you’re being given too much.

Do you realise that plenty of people work and claim UC as a top up due to the ridiculously tiny wages employers pay them? And that disabled people and their carers claim UC, not just job seekers? Why shouldn't those people have the ability to put aside something towards a small emergency fund?

XenoBitch · Yesterday 21:25

Fluffordirt · Yesterday 21:23

And so they use their initiative and contact friends, family, charity, community.

You cannot expect the government to give those on benefits the sort of excess money whereby they can build up enough to buy a fridge (£000). That’s just not affordable in the UK today. Anyone that thinks it is seriously needs to educate themselves about the dire state of the national finances.

I am on UC and am saving up to replace my 20 year old bed and mattress. Is that allowed? I guess a cheap yoga mat on the floor is enough.

youalright · Yesterday 21:25

Fluffordirt · Yesterday 21:23

And so they use their initiative and contact friends, family, charity, community.

You cannot expect the government to give those on benefits the sort of excess money whereby they can build up enough to buy a fridge (£000). That’s just not affordable in the UK today. Anyone that thinks it is seriously needs to educate themselves about the dire state of the national finances.

Do people on benefits not deserve a fridge 🤣🤣

Stressedoutmummyof3 · Yesterday 21:25

rainbowunicorn · Yesterday 20:56

Yes, and the point I am making is that benefits shouldn't be a long-term solution. I have never been entitled to any benefits apart from child benefit. I worked full time self employed and then term time to fit round my children. My husband worked 2 jobs. It has only been in the last 5 years that I have been able to save anything. So again, why should someone who is either not working or working just enough hours to maximise their benefit entitlement be in a better position than a family working the equivalent of 2.5 full time jobs?

Because some people have no choice but to be on benefits. I already know one of my children will never be in a position to work and possibly a second one will not or only limited hours.
They didn't choose to have SEN, along with other health issues, should they be forced to never be allowed to save because people like you think it's not fair. It's not fair that some have healthy NT children and two of mine are ND but I don't complain about the unfairness of that.

XenoBitch · Yesterday 21:26

youalright · Yesterday 21:25

Do people on benefits not deserve a fridge 🤣🤣

You don't need to store gruel in the fridge 😅

youalright · Yesterday 21:26

XenoBitch · Yesterday 21:26

You don't need to store gruel in the fridge 😅

🤣🤣🤣

Coconutter24 · Yesterday 21:28

Fluffordirt · Yesterday 21:19

Their family. Their friends. The community. Charity. Like those working who have no saving would do.

You’ve misread that posters comment.

youalright · Yesterday 21:29

I think the problem is uc has changed and people haven't realised they have put everyone in the same group now so uc isn't just a stop gap now its a forever benefit for a lot of people. Its interesting that nobody ever complained when it was called working tax credit now its called uc its a problem

Coconutter24 · Yesterday 21:30

youalright · Yesterday 21:21

Im on uc and work part time as im disabled

You’re not really helping the cause there lol

ParmaVioletTea · Yesterday 21:30

Why would you expect to save from money given to you from the public purse?

It should be just enough to live on.

KTheGrey · Yesterday 21:30

Fluffordirt · Yesterday 21:19

Their family. Their friends. The community. Charity. Like those working who have no saving would do.

Their landlord.

Tableforjoan · Yesterday 21:31

Fluffordirt · Yesterday 21:20

Full time? 35+ hours a week?

You can earn over 60k and be entitled to uc if you hit the criteria. Namely multiple children and renting. Add in some childcare or a child with a disability and you can more than easily be working full time above minimum wage and get uc.

crassida · Yesterday 21:32

How about getting a proper job?

ainsleysanob · Yesterday 21:32

LadyKenya · Yesterday 21:23

What has that got to do with the fact, that the poster was expressing absolute glee?

I don’t care whether she fees glee or not! Benefits should not enable a person to acquire savings ‘for emergencies’ when people who are not in receipt
of them stand no chance of being able to do the same.

youalright · Yesterday 21:32

Coconutter24 · Yesterday 21:30

You’re not really helping the cause there lol

Why this is the reality of the majority of people on uc their disabled, carers, minimum wage workers. Uc isn't just for out of work people as a stop gap the majority of people on it won't be coming off it. So this whole well you don't deserve a fridge until you get a job or until you get a better job doesn't work

youalright · Yesterday 21:33

ainsleysanob · Yesterday 21:32

I don’t care whether she fees glee or not! Benefits should not enable a person to acquire savings ‘for emergencies’ when people who are not in receipt
of them stand no chance of being able to do the same.

But why can't you wages are more then benefits. Its not people on benefits fault your crap with money

LadyKenya · Yesterday 21:34

ainsleysanob · Yesterday 21:32

I don’t care whether she fees glee or not! Benefits should not enable a person to acquire savings ‘for emergencies’ when people who are not in receipt
of them stand no chance of being able to do the same.

It is just as well that we don't all think the same way then.

FirmGreyMember · Yesterday 21:35

ParmaVioletTea · Yesterday 21:30

Why would you expect to save from money given to you from the public purse?

It should be just enough to live on.

I’m not saying people should be building large savings from benefits. I’m talking about having enough breathing room to put aside even very small amounts for emergencies - a broken kettle, replacing essentials, an unexpected bill - so every minor setback doesn’t become a financial crisis. That’s a very different point.

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ainsleysanob · Yesterday 21:35

youalright · Yesterday 21:24

People on benefits still need to be able to save for stuff just like people not on benefits. Being on benefits doesn't mean your boiler doesn't break or your car doesn't break or you should never go on holiday ever again

And the people not in receipt of benefits who cannot possibly save should so what?! None of you seem to be able to answer that!

oviraptor21 · Yesterday 21:36

exhaustedandoverit · Yesterday 20:47

What if something breaks, car, white goods, school trip etc? There’s nothing wrong with having a savings pot for emergencies. You’re allowed up to £6k with no sanction.

It is hard OP, have you done an I&E to see if there’s anything that could be cut back on to put some aside? If you’re paying out on any debt could this be looked at to see if you’re paying too much?

You can get a budgeting advance on UC for essentials.

XenoBitch · Yesterday 21:36

youalright · Yesterday 21:29

I think the problem is uc has changed and people haven't realised they have put everyone in the same group now so uc isn't just a stop gap now its a forever benefit for a lot of people. Its interesting that nobody ever complained when it was called working tax credit now its called uc its a problem

Yep! UC has replaced the legacy benefits. WTC was for people in work, ESA was for people too sick to work, and JSA was for people looking for work. Now they are all called the same thing... UC.

youalright · Yesterday 21:37

ainsleysanob · Yesterday 21:35

And the people not in receipt of benefits who cannot possibly save should so what?! None of you seem to be able to answer that!

Why don't you write down your income and outgoings and i will tell you where you can cut back to help you save.

ainsleysanob · Yesterday 21:37

youalright · Yesterday 21:33

But why can't you wages are more then benefits. Its not people on benefits fault your crap with money

I’m not crap with money love! Nor do I have any broken appliances! But your post goes to show just how out of touch you are! It really does! Hilarious really!

FirmGreyMember · Yesterday 21:37

crassida · Yesterday 21:32

How about getting a proper job?

What a strange thing to say on a thread discussing the realities of saving on Universal Credit.

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ainsleysanob · Yesterday 21:39

youalright · Yesterday 21:37

Why don't you write down your income and outgoings and i will tell you where you can cut back to help you save.

I’m mortgage free, I have one child that I can afford to do anything I like with really because I didn’t have too many kids that I couldn’t afford, I have a lovely life and a good job! I don’t need your ‘advice’! Thanks though, I’ll bear it mind for when I want to fleece the taxpayer so I can buy a microwave!

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