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AIBU to end a tenancy so my niece can live there?

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SunnyDaysAndCoolNights · Today 14:12

We have a house that we rent out to a family with 2 children who have been in the house for about 7 years. The house is in the same city that our niece is at university in.

Just after Xmas, my niece asked us if she could live in the house for her second and third year at uni, (possibly longer) as the houses she had looked at weren’t very nice and she can’t stay in halls.

After speaking to my husband, we decided to say yes and we gave our tenants a section 21 notice in February. Our tenants were/are not happy and have been advised to stay in the house by the council. We thought that may happen which is why we served the notice in February despite my niece not needing the house until September. We were also aware of the new rules coming in soon which would make it harder to end a tenancy.

Since finding out that we have ended the tenancy for our current tenants, my brother and his wife (not nieces parents) have told us that we are ‘typical arsehole landlords’ for ‘kicking out a family’. They think our niece, also their niece is selfish for asking, that she could have found somewhere herself and that we should have put our tenants first as they have been our tenants for quite a long time and they have children. My brother and his wife rent with their children, so obviously that may play a part in their feelings on this. I feel upset they would say these things as I think it’s normal to put your own family first. My other brother and his wife who are parents of my niece are very annoyed at our other brother and his wife.

Would you have done the same as we have or would you have put the tenants first and said no to your niece? I do have sympathy for my tenants, they’re a nice family and have been good tenants, but obviously we love our niece and to us, she comes first.

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Darkladyofthesonnets · Today 14:25

Really it would be karma if she trashes the place, is unreliable with the rent and moves out in three months. I say that as a non-renting homeowner. I think you have behaved shamefully and your niece is no better.

Tryagain26 · Today 14:25

The niece could and should have found somewhere else. The house will only be a temporary home for her anyway. Whereas it has been that families home for 7 years! They have done nothing wrong and have been good tenants.
Of course you are being unreasonable and I can't believe anyone would think otherwise

SunnyDaysAndCoolNights · Today 14:26

FancyBiscuitsLevel · Today 14:24

Oh sorry cross post- so this isn’t a financial decision, more “caring for disabled family member” decision that you know you’ll lose money on ?

Even without her having autism, we would have let her have the house. I’ve only mentioned she has autism to explain why she won’t be living with others or damaging the house.

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SqueakyDinosaur · Today 14:26

Absolutely vile thing to do. If we were friends, I'd be done with you.

Crocsarentslippers · Today 14:27

What a lovely family.

Niece for asking knowing full well there is a family living there.

You for actually kicking this family out . Your Brother is correct, what an arsehole landlord thing to do.

I'm sure you are scrambling for a drip feed now about how poor your tenants have been, that your Niece has had problems etc but you've done aht you've done.

Did you also expect some praise for being clever and beating the deadline for new tenant rules?

Edit : Yup, just seen your drip feed.

AmberOtter · Today 14:28

As someone who has recently had to move with a family after receiving a section 21 I cannot tell you the stress it caused! This is a complete arsehole move and you should be ashamed!

WallaceinAnderland · Today 14:28

You've been very foolish OP and also very unkind to your tenants. How many years does your niece plan to live there?

MrsOni · Today 14:28

SunnyDaysAndCoolNights · Today 14:23

My niece will be living in the house by herself so not a bunch of students.

Money isn’t an issue. We won’t be charging her very much and we are ok with that.

She won’t damage the property, she is autistic, very responsible, quiet, has only a few quiet friends, hates parties, doesn’t go out much etc.

So you are kicking out a good family in favour of a niece who won't even be paying the full amount?

People like you are the reason landlords get a bad reputation.

Peacepot · Today 14:29

I don't think I would have done that for a student neice either TBH. I'd want to help, and as you know the city, I'd have thought you can do that through practical support and contacts etc, but evicitng a family to give a single person short term accomodation?

SethBrogan · Today 14:29

Renamed · Today 14:24

If this is genuine - then there are people who are capable of thinking/ saying “you know the people who live there? Could you evict them from their home so I can live there instead?”
Ugh.

There are I’m afraid, it happened to us, we had only been in the property for 8 months when the landlord served us a section 21 because her son wanted to move in. It had cost us thousands to move (as we moved into a new town) and then we had to spend thousands again to move to the next town over as we couldn’t find anywhere else to rent that would accept our pets. These people do exist unfortunately, they are utterly vile.

76evie · Today 14:29

I think it was a crap thing to do to your tenants tbh. You obviously have good tenants otherwise you would have evicted them sooner, good tenants can be hard to find and you will have to go through the search again in just over 2 years time and there is no guarantee you will find good tenants like now.

For info, my child has secured a house with their friends for their second year and it starts from 1st July 26 till 30th June 2027, it seems normal in her Uni city for students to have to take the house for 12 months July to June despite not really needing it till September. I know the 12 month tenancy will be a thing of the past come 1st May.

Have you thought how it will work with your niece after the first year, will she be looking not to pay rent after June till September, leaving you out of pocket?!

Mistymaglets · Today 14:29

Your niece is asking for a family to be made homeless for her own convenience????
And you agreed.
Family of absolute charmers.

TheBlueKoala · Today 14:30

I think you are being unreasonable @SunnyDaysAndCoolNights. One thing if the niece was planning to stay longterm but she's just looking for a temporary accommodation so it's quite mean to kick a family with kids out. Niece could have rented a room somewhere. Now there are kids without somewhere to stay and you will have to find good tenants in two years when niece moves out.

Ablondiebutagoody · Today 14:31

Dick move but legal so you can do what you want. Hopefully your tenants will also put their family first and cease paying rent from now until you have been to court and the bailiffs turn up. Could take you well past September.

Bloodorangekangaroo · Today 14:31

I wouldn’t have kicked the family out. Especially as they were long term and you haven’t outlined them as been bad tenants. You have made a mistake here. I know people who are landlords and all have rented to family and regret it.

tinyladybird · Today 14:31

Agree with other posters, not a nice thing to do. Good tenants can be hard to come by. Totally different if they awful and you wanted them out anyway. You don't know who you will get in after niece moves out sadly.

MrsOni · Today 14:31

SunnyDaysAndCoolNights · Today 14:24

No, not a reverse. I’ve done it because I have chosen to put my families needs first.

If "money isn't an issue" why didn't you allow the family to keep their home and just give niece a bit of help towards finding somewhere else, if she can't cope with what she can afford?

BIossomtoes · Today 14:31

No wonder people detest landlords. What a shitty thing to do.

SpiceGirlsNeedAComeBack · Today 14:31

Really shitty thing to do to good, stable, long term tenants. Hope the next tenants after your niece fuck you off and don’t pay the rent.

StephensLass1977 · Today 14:32

Why did she have to have THAT house? It's not like it was down to the two sets of people and only one house available in the entire area.

Your niece is spoilt and knew she'd get her own way. I feel bad for the current tenants, they did nothing wrong.

But you do you.

Greenwitchart · Today 14:32

35965a · Today 14:21

Is this a reverse? Because I can’t think why anyone would be stupid enough to evict a long standing tenant who will probably stay much longer than a 20-something who will only want to live there a couple of years maximum.

This. It makes no Financial sense and is a poor way to treat a family/good tenants.

Not to mention that the family will just stay put and wait for a tribunal to issue an eviction notice, which will take months, so they can be rehoused by the local council.

HawkersWest · Today 14:32

Dick move. Karma's a bitch...

MissyPants · Today 14:33

Who knows who you will get in there once your Niece leaves, good trusting tenants are hard to come by. The problem isn't now, it's once she leaves.
This won't effect you now, but it will in 2 years time I suspect.

VickyEadieofThigh · Today 14:33

MrsOni · Today 14:31

If "money isn't an issue" why didn't you allow the family to keep their home and just give niece a bit of help towards finding somewhere else, if she can't cope with what she can afford?

EXACTLY what I was going to say.

Idontjetwashthefucker · Today 14:33

Awful way to treat your tenants