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DevilsKitchen · 24/04/2026 14:48

I’ve just been prescribed something by a PA that is not recommended in pregnancy due to the risk of deafness and cleft palate.

I am only by virtue of being an inherently distrusting person that I am not now taking this. I mentioned I was pregnant and the PA said “oh yeah I’m pretty sure it’s fine” which to me is not good enough so I checked with the pharmacist who told me categorically no and go and ask for something else.

My colleague also had a bad experience with a PA when her daughter was prescribed something inappropriate for her specific condition.

And it’s no wonder is it? It’s two years training at masters level which is obviously nowhere near enough. It was a nice idea to try and reduce the waiting list and I don’t even think it’s their fault because they are doing their best but AIBU to say it’s time this experiment was ended?

I would like to say my surgery has dealt with it really well and I am now booked in to see an actual GP.

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toothcrackedow · 26/04/2026 08:17

spstchmu · 26/04/2026 02:21

They're awful in my limited experience. Limited because i rang up and told the receptionist I didnt want to be contacted by them again. Its not their fault, no, but potentially dangerous

They’re brilliant if you get the right one. I’ve had one who thought she was god, but the others have listened to me, given me the medication I needed, and been polite and friendly.

ispecialiseinthis · 26/04/2026 08:42

Abso · 25/04/2026 23:55

Where as I'm the opposite and would definitely trust the pharmacists decision over the GP/ consultant. But that's because I've been saved from inappropriate drug interactions and doses by pharmacists and also been prescribed drugs by a GP that was an absolute no in pregnancy (known to cause heart defects, not simply untested in pregnancy).

That is exactly the role of the pharmacist - wholly in the scope of practice. When I was junior doctor, pharmacists would come on the ward round and would go through all the patients’ drug charts and sign each drug off with their green pen, add queries etc and contacted us to make amendments.
All discharge prescriptions are checked and issued by the hospital pharmacy.
The pharmacists are vital colleagues but perform an entirely different role from the team of doctors

Cheesipuff · 26/04/2026 08:50

Is this a journalist looking for bad PA stories ???????

disappearingme · 26/04/2026 10:54

OP hasn't been back. I suspect because their attempt to create a story to discredit PA's failed.

ThePeewit · 26/04/2026 11:08

disappearingme · 26/04/2026 10:54

OP hasn't been back. I suspect because their attempt to create a story to discredit PA's failed.

I don't think it failed judging by the almost entirety negative responses and some quite worrying ones.

WhatHappenedToYourFurnitureCuz · 26/04/2026 13:58

ThePeewit · 26/04/2026 11:08

I don't think it failed judging by the almost entirety negative responses and some quite worrying ones.

Yep. Also quite happy if this is the case - the more publicity about the PA scandal, the better.

stopthemud · 26/04/2026 20:41

I had an absolutely awful experience with a PA, well my DH did. The person involved lead us to believe he was a fully qualified GP. My DH is not a person who goes the the dr, so that itself should have rang alarm bells 6 visits in 3 weeks after maybe a visit once every 2 or 3 years for the previous 15 years. It was only when I cemetery lost my shit and rang 111 an ambulance arrived very quickly and he ended up in hospital for 3 months. I do not trust them at all. I would strongly advise anyone who has any doubts to seek a second opinion. The consultants in hospital were less than complimentary about him as we're the paramedics who rang him up to ask him what on earth he was playing at. Luckily my husband recovered, he almost didn't. Trust your gut anyone who thinks they are being fobbed off. We didn't look into legal action, the amount the NHS pays out in compensation is staggering, we were lucky, I would rather someone more affected got the money. Be very wary.

Needmoresleep · 29/04/2026 16:00

I think this post, and the fact that the OP has not returned, suggests something.

I am seeing similar on Facebook. Attacks on ANPs, CNSs, ACPs and other and other senior health practitioners. Comments suggest these stem from the BMA, concerned about Doctor status.

I personally have always been happy to see ANPs. Indeed because of a high risk of melanoma recurring, I pay for six monthly checks to see a specialist nurse at a skin clinic, who I believe is more likely to spot something nasty that a locum GP (or a PA) would. ANPs were also brilliant at helping manage the routine illnesses of old age (UTIs etc) that affected my 90 year old mother and could offer more time and better patient knowledge than a GP as well as home visits when needed.

I think the position is different for PAs who have less experience and training and yet are paid more that junior doctors, soak up scarce training opportunities, and have much more favourable working conditions (no nights, no compulsory rotations to different hospitals, scheduled training time.) DDs classmate who became a PA was nowhere near as academic enough to even attempt a medical school application. It is difficult to see how a sports science degree coupled with a two year course will allow her, even with a lot of handholding, to take the place of a doctor.

What the BMA is not doing is questioning the open immigration policy that is flooding entry level NHS positions will doctors from overseas, forcing expensively trained UK doctors to either leave the profession or to emigrate.

(And indeed the situation is no better for experienced overseas doctors stuck in entry level jobs with little chance of training or promotion, or on fixed term contracts with the prospect of joining the every growing army of under employed locums at the end. Choices once UK residency for the doctor and their dependents is confirmed is to accept the situation, or use the NHS experience to either move to Australia/NZ/Canada or find work in the UK outside medicine.)

The current approach, that doctors are simply numbers and that there is no need to offer retention via a viable career path, is incredibly wasteful. UK trained doctors are valuable as they graduate familiar with UK protocols and NHS procedures, but also cost the UK taxpayer an awful lot to train. They have useful cultural advantages when it comes to things like end of discussions with grieving families, or working with other professionals including nurses. Losing 50% of the year group in order to recruit from abroad or substitute with PAs is bonkers.

We need to be really careful when we use pseudo-doctors. Absolutely fine for a senior nurse experienced in a particular field to see patients, indeed probably better for the patient than a newly qualified doctor in their first week of working in the speciality. But using PAs may save short term money but belated diagnosis costs more and jeopardises patient safety.

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Carriemac · 29/04/2026 16:04

I had a really bad experience with a PA at Christmas who didn’t listen to my chest and sent me away ‘ as it was just a virus ‘ I saw an emergency doctor 24 hours later and was prescribed steroids for my breathlessness and I was ill for ages afterwards . The worst thing is my records say the PA listened to my chest but he didn’t

Locutus2000 · 29/04/2026 16:09

Cheesipuff · 26/04/2026 08:50

Is this a journalist looking for bad PA stories ???????

More like the BMA pulling dirty tricks. I wouldn't put anything past the current lot.

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