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To not want yet another new Prime Minister right now.

36 replies

paddleboardingmum · Yesterday 19:45

I'm not a massive Starmer fan, but at least he's doing okay on the international stuff. What with the war, Trump and everything I feel like we just need some stability and the thought of a whole leadership contest and yet another change of PM just seems like too much. Fed up with the constant drama of the news.

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GoatsOfNavahoe · Yesterday 22:58

The government has some hugely damaging policies and ideas, especially where the economy and the doomed social engineering is concerned so ideally I’d like to see a GE to get rid of the lot, but I realise that won’t happen. As we’re stuck with them for now, I think he’s the best out of truely weird bunch of clueless misfits and hope he stays.

howshouldibehave · Yesterday 23:16

Meadowfinch · Yesterday 21:51

I think he'll stay until the May elections. After that, I can't see how he'll survive.

I can’t see what impact some local elections will have on KS leaving or staying. I think he’ll be around for a few more years yet.

Sheeled · Yesterday 23:25

Part of me thinks it will hardly make any difference. In 38 months the British electorate, whom nobody ever seems to criticise for electing these dreadful people, will, on current polling, hand power to Nigel Farage in a far right coalition with the Tories and possibly DUP. At that point the country will really start to suffer. Is it even worth trying to bring in Lammy, who was a disaster over Gaza, not that many people seem to care about that, Rayner, who the misogynist press (also read as the Bible by more people than youd like to think) would do everything to stymie, or the oily unpleasant Streeting.
Many British people so hate the idea of anything progressive that the only way anyone not Tory or Reform can get to power is to ape their policies and talk bull shit about immigration. A shitshow

IberianLynx · Yesterday 23:40

I would rather he stay. It makes me sick to think what could have happened with Iran if we had a different pm. Straight after Trump started the war you had the likes of Tony Blair saying we should back him!? I don’t mind Kier, overall he is a bit meh but he has had some impressive moments. He also has the advantage of coming after some of the worst PMs in living memory (notably BJ and especially Truss).

Vaxtable · Yesterday 23:54

I dislike Labour intensely however I dont want a new PM either mainly as the options being put forward are far worse IMO

i do agree with Starmer standing up to the bully boy across the pond and not joining in his war

GoatsOfNavahoe · Yesterday 23:57

Sheeled · Yesterday 23:25

Part of me thinks it will hardly make any difference. In 38 months the British electorate, whom nobody ever seems to criticise for electing these dreadful people, will, on current polling, hand power to Nigel Farage in a far right coalition with the Tories and possibly DUP. At that point the country will really start to suffer. Is it even worth trying to bring in Lammy, who was a disaster over Gaza, not that many people seem to care about that, Rayner, who the misogynist press (also read as the Bible by more people than youd like to think) would do everything to stymie, or the oily unpleasant Streeting.
Many British people so hate the idea of anything progressive that the only way anyone not Tory or Reform can get to power is to ape their policies and talk bull shit about immigration. A shitshow

It depends on your definition of progressive, if it’s identity politics and taxing the life out of anything that moves or doesn’t move (including children’s education ffs!??) whilst smirking then you’re right that many British people hate it. Labour had their chance and they’ve broken the social contract, it’s over for them. Yes Reform will be the next government, will the country suffer more than it is now? We’ll see.

ultracynic · Today 00:04

BIossomtoes · Yesterday 19:53

I’m with you. Six PMs in 16 years is lunacy. We definitely don’t need a seventh.

It’s worse than that - this time 3.5 years ago Johnson had just been replaced with Truss, and we’ve had Sunak and Starmer since then. A new one would would mean 5 prime ministers in under 4 years😮

AInightingale · Today 00:08

Is there a reason why Rachel Reeves and Yvette Cooper haven't been mentioned much as candidates for PM? Seems odd given they're Labour's most senior female ministers. They do seem hellbent on veering to the hard Left which I think is suicidal at the moment.

Sladuf1 · Today 00:24

howshouldibehave · Yesterday 23:16

I can’t see what impact some local elections will have on KS leaving or staying. I think he’ll be around for a few more years yet.

Not just local elections on May 7th. The Welsh and Scottish Parliament elections are also being held. Labour is predicted to be out on its proverbial arse in Wales after being in government there since the first Assembly elections in 1999.
Don’t forget that during the 14 years Labour was in Opposition in Westminster, it was still in government in Wales.

Things weren’t looking great for them in Wales prior to the 2024 general election with that business over the corrupt and short-lived First Minister Vaughan Gething but it’s declined further since. The latest voting intention opinion poll from ITV Wales put Labour at 13% - 3rd place, just 3 points above the Greens. They’ve changed to a PR system for these elections too.

Sheeled · Today 00:25

GoatsOfNavahoe · Yesterday 23:57

It depends on your definition of progressive, if it’s identity politics and taxing the life out of anything that moves or doesn’t move (including children’s education ffs!??) whilst smirking then you’re right that many British people hate it. Labour had their chance and they’ve broken the social contract, it’s over for them. Yes Reform will be the next government, will the country suffer more than it is now? We’ll see.

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If by taxing children's education you mean removing the VAT exemption on the exclusive organisations who charge to educate around 4% (mostly among rhe wealthier sections of the population) then yes I agree with raising money this way to go into a pot, from which the education provided to be available to 100% of children's is paid.
It is not identity politics to want billionaires and corporations to pay their way, to have half decent public services and some kind of social safety net. But yes, I agree there probably will be a Reform led government. Mass deportations, making legal migration almost impossible, slashing taxes, selling off the remainder of the NHS, cutting off amy chance of closer ties with Europe, possible abortion bans, cosying up to the latest catastrophic US President and their boss in Moscow. Trashing all climate agreements, worsening housing crisis, tanking economy. Brilliant.

paddleboardingmum · Today 00:52

Reform might bring us a taste of some of the dreadful things we've seen play out in the US so could be considerably worse.

Rachel Reeves for PM? must be a joke. I can't imagine a more unpopular choice. Yvette Cooper would probably be fine, but again what's the point in changing. Starmer seems to be respected in Europe and we need that.

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