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My sister has started calling her evening meal supper ...

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TheFateofOphelia · 05/10/2025 09:43

She was talking about having friends round for "supper" on Friday. I was puzzled as she knows, and I know, that supper is a piece of toast if you're feeling peckish at bedtime.

Apparently, now she's moved to Surrey she no longer has her dinner between 12 and 1, she has lunch. Now I'm ok with that but AIBU to draw the line at her having supper at tea time?

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Hollieandtheivie · 05/10/2025 12:43

Anyone mentioned the Sarah Millican sketch about going on holiday with her sister and the list of meals in the day? If you haven't seen it, Google it. It's great! And reminds me so much of my sister and me. 😋
BTW, we have breakfast, lunch and tea. The kids demand supper before bed as a stalling tactic. It's usually weetabix or porridge.

TheGreatWesternShrew · 05/10/2025 12:43

Just remind her that Hyacinth Bucket would approve and ask whether she’s invited Sheridan to her candlelight suppers.

MasterBeth · 05/10/2025 12:45

ThreeLocusts · 05/10/2025 12:33

Interesting thread. I'm not a native speaker, and at school we learned that the three meals of the day in English are breakfast, lunch and dinner. And tea is a liquid that Brits are supposed to be experts at (how shocked I was to find that British tea bags don't even have strings, once I moved to the UK).

That the women serving lunch at school are called 'dinner ladies' was indeed a bit confusing when I first heard about it, but then so was the whole concept of 'school lunch'. Where I come from schools have only started serving food very recently, and my generation lacks the whole experience of 'school food'. It was fascinating for me to hear people reminisce, with a grimace, about 'school spotted dick' and similar. School lunches are a great equalizer, like railway commutes.

I still don't understand the class vs. regional overtones of the different terms. Is it plebeian in some places to say 'lunch' not 'dinner' for the midday meal? Is it folksy, plebeian or merely Yorkshire-ish to call dinner tea?

The answers to your questions are "yes". All of the above

We called dinner tea. My parents are Londoners, I grew up in the London suburbs and now live in the Midlands. We are middle-aged middle-class professionals. I will still say "what shall we have for tea?", I think, to mean "evening meal, probably eaten around 7.30-8."

I think lunch is always more high status than dinner, for midday meal. Don't forget that it's not always class v region in the UK. "Merely Yorkshire" isn't really a concept in British class dynamics because the dominant cultural drivers (media, press, government etc) are based in London and many blinkered Londoners see The North as fundamentally working class.

GreenCandleWax · 05/10/2025 12:47

Should also have said, tea is what youn have in the afternoon - a cup of tea with a biscuit or piece of cake, as in "Come to tea on Sunday - meaning 3-4pm approximately.
In my first job which was in a park, we started at 8am. At 9am the men I worked with had "lunch", then in middle of the day they had "dinner" (their sandwiches) before going home to tea, presumably the biggest meal of the day.

Bleachedjeans · 05/10/2025 12:48

HollyhockDays · 05/10/2025 09:50

She is just trying to fit in with a new social circle maybe. It’s not a crime.

Yes, sometimes you have to code switch to fit in. I’ve done it myself. Many years ago when went a couple of rungs up the social ladder (🙄) one of the first things I dropped was putting ‘our’ and ‘your’ in front of relatives’ names: Our Kevin is coming at Christmas/ How’s your Maureen?
As you say, it’s not a crime.

Horses7 · 05/10/2025 12:48

I’d drag my sister back to her northern working class roots - who does she think she is living amongst southerners and calling tea supper!!

ExquisiteSocialSkills · 05/10/2025 12:49

LozzaCh0ps · 05/10/2025 09:56

The word “s*pper” gives me the inexplicable but visceral ick. Unfortunately I’m Surrey born and bred as well.

Me too although I grew up Northern. It’s not the middle class Southern vibe of it, it’s the actual sound of the word. In my opinion it’s tea before about 6.30pm and dinner after that.

TeddySchnauzer · 05/10/2025 12:51

Dinner is always evening meal here in North Yorkshire. Lunch is lunch. Are people really calling lunch ‘dinner?!’

MrsSkylerWhite · 05/10/2025 12:52

TeddySchnauzer · 05/10/2025 12:51

Dinner is always evening meal here in North Yorkshire. Lunch is lunch. Are people really calling lunch ‘dinner?!’

My husband is from Cornwall. Lots of people called lunch dinner.

thepariscrimefiles · 05/10/2025 12:52

Jilly Cooper's characters and David and Samantha Cameron used to have 'kitchen suppers' with friends. I do associate 'supper' with posh people.

NoSoapJustUseShowerGel · 05/10/2025 12:53

Bellyblueboy · 05/10/2025 12:19

However sometimes it’s just easier to use the language everyone understands.

i live somewhere that dinner is never at lunch time. Therefore someone moving here would confuse everyone if they talked about dinner but meant a meal mid day.

they are only words - but they have different meanings in different areas and within different social sets.

I don’t think referring to the evening meal as supper as posh. It’s just very English and old fashioned (I’m not from England)

I agree with your sentiment, however by the same reasoning, she should adapt her language when speaking to her sister and go back to calling it tea/dinner as they both grew up with and she knows her sister still does.

Most people switch their language depending on their audience, so it should work both ways.

WinterNightStars · 05/10/2025 12:53

I’m a Yorkshire girl so it’s breakfast, dinner & tea all the way. Supper would be a snack before bed such as toast, crackers.

musicismath · 05/10/2025 12:54

TheFateofOphelia · 05/10/2025 09:43

She was talking about having friends round for "supper" on Friday. I was puzzled as she knows, and I know, that supper is a piece of toast if you're feeling peckish at bedtime.

Apparently, now she's moved to Surrey she no longer has her dinner between 12 and 1, she has lunch. Now I'm ok with that but AIBU to draw the line at her having supper at tea time?

YANBU. Very pretentious imo to change the words you use for things just to fit in with a particular social group.

MasterBeth · 05/10/2025 12:56

The other factor to take into account in all this is time.

Different generations of class and geography use different terms.

ginasevern · 05/10/2025 12:56

I grew up in the West Country. Dinner was on the table at midday and tea was the evening meal, usually around 6pm. We didn't have supper but if you did it would be some sort of snack before bedtime.

JadeSeahorse · 05/10/2025 12:57

viques · 05/10/2025 12:43

“Herefordshire/Wiltshire border village.

Do you mean Gloucestershire ? It’s a bit bigger than a village imo. 😁

No, it's more Wiltshire I believe.

I'm not too familiar with that area but I know she's not too far from Camilla's house.

I know the properties are pretty much all £800k upwards. Very pretty but I wouldn't fit in. I'm far too common which won't surprise you.🤣

TroysMammy · 05/10/2025 12:58

I'd consider going low contact for that. I'm horrified every time my sister refers to going places, doing things and taking a photo as "making memories". If she started saying supper I don't know how I'd react.

mugglewump · 05/10/2025 12:58

I have always had lunch and supper; a main meal eaten between 7 and 8.

Supper as a late evening snack is an anathema to me. The idea of having anything to eat after a large meal at 8pm sounds crazy, but I guess if you have 'tea' at 5 or 6pm, which I think is the time for an evening meal in the North, you might feel peckish after 9pm. Perhaps the difference is in when we eat? Tea eaters eat much earlier than Supper eaters, who do not get back from work until 7ish.

Dinner is just too ambiguous to describe a meal time, but I use it to describe having a meal.

ForCheeryTealDeer · 05/10/2025 12:58

I never use the word supper, it sounds so pretentious and old fashioned. I just have breakfast, lunch and dinner.

VickyEadieofThigh · 05/10/2025 13:03

TeddySchnauzer · 05/10/2025 12:51

Dinner is always evening meal here in North Yorkshire. Lunch is lunch. Are people really calling lunch ‘dinner?!’

Come on - you're in N YORKSHIRE and you're entirely unaware that in most parts of God's own county, the midday meal is called 'dinner'?

I don't believe you don't know that!

IsEveryUserNameBloodyTaken · 05/10/2025 13:06

TheFateofOphelia · 05/10/2025 09:43

She was talking about having friends round for "supper" on Friday. I was puzzled as she knows, and I know, that supper is a piece of toast if you're feeling peckish at bedtime.

Apparently, now she's moved to Surrey she no longer has her dinner between 12 and 1, she has lunch. Now I'm ok with that but AIBU to draw the line at her having supper at tea time?

Supper is supper nothing to do with toast.

Bigearringsbigsmile · 05/10/2025 13:06

The whole concept of a kitchen supper demands a house big enough to have a dining table and chairs in the kitchen.
You can't fit a table and chairs in most normal house kitchens.
So posh enough to afford that.

BUT why would you want to sit and eat looking at all the dirty pots and pans you've just used to cook the meal?

Bigearringsbigsmile · 05/10/2025 13:07

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DJKATIE · 05/10/2025 13:10

Yes Dinner is at dinner time around 12.00 to 1.00. That's why schools have Dinner ladies not Lunch ladies ... supper is a later night snack. Tea is at Teatime.

Bigearringsbigsmile · 05/10/2025 13:11

The dinner ladies are called " midday ladies" where I work.