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To be angry at this arrogant pudding prat!

127 replies

BigHouseLittleHouse · 24/09/2025 14:20

Article on Guardian today by a snide journalist wondering if we should abandon traditional puddings.

AIBU to find this article very aggravating? A bad cook blaming his incompetency on the recipes. He lost me at jam roly-poly which if made well (using a high-fruit content home made jam) is a clever dessert - the sweetness compensated well by a creamy vanilla custard (similar to the perfect ratio of fat and sugar represented by eating a jam donut).

By the time I got to rice pudding I felt positively violent. Rice pudding can be absolutely luxurious (as cooked by my neighbour) or it can be comforting and delicate (as cooked by my nutmeg-loving mother). How dare this pudding prat award only 3.5 to the taste of rice pudding? All he has done is evidence his pathetic inability to use his cook’s instinct to make a good version of a timeless classic.

If I asked my 7 year old to make these puddings they’d taste awful. That doesn’t mean the pudding itself is bad - just that the cook lacks skill.

Link:
www.theguardian.com/food/2025/sep/23/steam-stodge-suet-endangered-british-puddings-are-any-worth-saving

OP posts:
tartyflette · 24/09/2025 16:57

PollyValente · 24/09/2025 16:10

I wonder if you could make a kind of savoury roly poly using ham, and perhaps grain mustard? (Obvs not cake,but pastry for the roly poly part[

I'm sure I have seen a recipe (but not recently) for a savoury suet roll, containing chopped ham or bacon, onions and possibly other vegetables, (carrots?) spread over an oblong piece of suet pastry, then rolled up swiss roll style, put in paper and foil and steamed for hours.
Not so different from a steak and kidney pudding really, albeit without the delicious gravy.
Both are real cold-weather dishes and I suspect our winters tend to be milder than they were 50+ years ago.

Treesarenotforeating · 24/09/2025 16:59

@BigHouseLittleHouse
bread and butter pudding is easy
1 egg
half pint milk
table spoon sugar or how sweet you like it
buttered glass dish
buttered bread
raisins/currants
spred the bread, cut into slices/ squares
layer butter side down, raisins, bread raisins
warm milk ,egg &sygar mix to dissolve sugar
pour over, leave to soak for a while
bung in oven for half hour

LadydeBathe · 24/09/2025 17:19

All of those puddings would be my worst nightmare, tbh. My husband however (born in 1970, thinks it was 1930) would love all of them. He’s very sentimental about nursery type stodgy puds. I’ve never known him to actually order one, but his goes misty eyed at the thought.

Yawhat · 24/09/2025 17:21

YABU for still reading the grauniad.

Hotflushesandchilblains · 24/09/2025 17:26

I think its his style, did not realize he was American as I dont read him regularly but have always found him annoying when I have. Suet puddings are wonderful when done properly but like a lot of American food, if you dont grow up wth them, I can see why you wouldnt take to them.

SpidersAreShitheads · 24/09/2025 17:39

Similar to a couple of PP, I'm not a big fan of most of those puddings. I can eat rice pudding if I have to but it's nothing special. Jam roly poly is edible but nothing more. I can appreciate when it's been done well but it's just not my thing.

I know, I know 😂

The Sussex Pond sounds amazing though! Malvern Pudding sounded nice too - but I'd have to replace the cinnamon with something else as I'm not a fan.

In the comments though, someone mentioned a pudding called Hollygog which does sound really good! I've actually got some shortcrust pastry in the fridge that I bought and didn't use so tempted to give this a go..... I'm wondering if the milk makes it soggy?

To be angry at this arrogant pudding prat!
ErrolTheDragon · 24/09/2025 17:39

tartyflette · 24/09/2025 16:57

I'm sure I have seen a recipe (but not recently) for a savoury suet roll, containing chopped ham or bacon, onions and possibly other vegetables, (carrots?) spread over an oblong piece of suet pastry, then rolled up swiss roll style, put in paper and foil and steamed for hours.
Not so different from a steak and kidney pudding really, albeit without the delicious gravy.
Both are real cold-weather dishes and I suspect our winters tend to be milder than they were 50+ years ago.

We sometimes had bacon and onion suet rolypoly for lunch in my primary school in the 1960s.

Sharptonguedwoman · 24/09/2025 17:40

Orangepate · 24/09/2025 14:27

Sticky toffee pudding.. unless JK Rowling makes it obviously.

Pardon? What have I missed?

Skodacool · 24/09/2025 17:48

Whether or not he’s serious he misses the point of these puddings. They were high calorie to fill people up cheaply and in some cases using up stale bread. One of my favourites as a child was bread pudding.

ErrolTheDragon · 24/09/2025 17:54

Sharptonguedwoman · 24/09/2025 17:40

Pardon? What have I missed?

This, probably
https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5400595-i-blame-jkrowling?utm_campaign=thread&utm_medium=app_share

Sharptonguedwoman · 24/09/2025 17:55

Thank you!

ErrolTheDragon · 24/09/2025 17:57

I’ve not RTFT but I love the OP’s passion on the subject.
And I’m not going to set much store by whatever this man may say, coming as he does a country where ‘pudding’ means some sort of blancmange-like substance. eww.

LillyPJ · 24/09/2025 18:22

Hedjwitch · 24/09/2025 16:45

I didn't know people still made puddings. Other than the very occasional crumble I never make them, and never did when the dcs were small either. Ice cream now and again was the extent of my efforts.

I live alone but I still make puddings. Crumble is very easy and I like making pastry. I've got tons of apples to get through this year (donations from friends with bumper crops) so I'll be looking out for any apple-based puddings to make.

Comtesse · 24/09/2025 18:24

Yes I thought that too - a bad workman blaming his tools more like. Should have got Felicity Cloake on the case who knows her stuff.

randomchap · 24/09/2025 18:24

It's just rage bait for clicks. Ignore and move on

CherryPencil · 24/09/2025 18:28

Puffinshop · 24/09/2025 15:28

Where I live (Iceland), rice pudding is traditionally served with raisins, cinnamon (all good so far), liver sausage and blood pudding. All in together. It's an absolute car crash of a dish.

A proper British rice pudding with jam or a bread and butter pudding with custard is the food of the gods. Did anyone else ever have apple charlotte? Like an apple crumble but bread with brown sugar on top instead of the crumble.

They have that in Finland as well, but with syrup also added. Had many horrifying hours as kid turning the handle on a liver mincer. It’s served as a savoury dish though rather than a dessert. Interesting it’s in Iceland too.

Denim4ever · 24/09/2025 18:29

nomas · 24/09/2025 15:14

I prefer puddings to American desserts. Don't see the point of key lime pie, pumpkin pie and brownies.

I found it weird that he was put off by the sweetness of some puddings when pumpkin pie is sooo sweet.

soupyspoon · 24/09/2025 18:29

He writes tongue in cheek articles, 'humorous' articles, usually quite deprecating which is unusual for Americans

However he might have missed the mark there or Im oversensitive about how British cuisine is portrayed, because people will buy into the 'its a load of stodge' narrative.

You go to other countries and they're proud of their food heritage and eat stinky, stodgy, fried, fresh, home grown foods. But we dont. We eat American, UPF crap and anything bland and beige. Im particularly thinking about fish which obviously forms no part of puddings.

soupyspoon · 24/09/2025 18:30

Skodacool · 24/09/2025 17:48

Whether or not he’s serious he misses the point of these puddings. They were high calorie to fill people up cheaply and in some cases using up stale bread. One of my favourites as a child was bread pudding.

You rarely hear about bread pudding these days. Its all bread and butter pudding. And lots of people dont understand the difference.

nomas · 24/09/2025 18:30

Denim4ever · 24/09/2025 18:29

I found it weird that he was put off by the sweetness of some puddings when pumpkin pie is sooo sweet.

And gross.

But I hate squashes.

Talipesmum · 24/09/2025 18:31

Denim4ever · 24/09/2025 18:29

I found it weird that he was put off by the sweetness of some puddings when pumpkin pie is sooo sweet.

He didn’t say he likes pumpkin pie either. Americans are allowed to like a range of stuff!

soupyspoon · 24/09/2025 18:32

SpidersAreShitheads · 24/09/2025 17:39

Similar to a couple of PP, I'm not a big fan of most of those puddings. I can eat rice pudding if I have to but it's nothing special. Jam roly poly is edible but nothing more. I can appreciate when it's been done well but it's just not my thing.

I know, I know 😂

The Sussex Pond sounds amazing though! Malvern Pudding sounded nice too - but I'd have to replace the cinnamon with something else as I'm not a fan.

In the comments though, someone mentioned a pudding called Hollygog which does sound really good! I've actually got some shortcrust pastry in the fridge that I bought and didn't use so tempted to give this a go..... I'm wondering if the milk makes it soggy?

Never heard of it but really want to try this. Of course the milk will make it soggy, Im guessing that is the point. I really like soggy pastry personally, I love stodge and heaviness.

Antimimisti · 24/09/2025 18:33

My mum used to do traditional puddings - I wasn't a fan, other than of her apple pie which was delicious. Too much milk for my liking, and I absolutely loathe and despise custard. I'd rather have a slice of cake than a pudding.

Denim4ever · 24/09/2025 18:33

Fun fact - I once worked in an office with a chap with the surname King who said Queen of Puddings was his favourite pudding.

Denim4ever · 24/09/2025 18:36

Talipesmum · 24/09/2025 18:31

He didn’t say he likes pumpkin pie either. Americans are allowed to like a range of stuff!

The person I'm replying to does mention pumpkin pie. I thought instantly about pumpkin pie when read the article because we used to live in the US.