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Thread 17: To feel disappointed after reading this in The Observer about the author and her husband from The Salt Path book and film?

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DisappointedReader · 02/09/2025 13:42

The Observer's original exposé: The real Salt Path: how a blockbuster book and film were ...
The 14 Observer items currently available on their online 'The real Salt Path' page: The real Salt Path | The Observer
More from The Observer:
‘Hope is extinguished’: CBD patients respond to Salt Path...
The real Salt Path | The Observer (The Slow Newscast)
Links to more Observer videos can be found in an early post of this new thread and here: Observer YouTube Channel: The Observer UK - YouTube
Working timeline and references: can be found in early posts of this new Thread 17.
Raynor Winn/Sally Walker's statement: Raynor Winn
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New posters joining us in the genuine spirit of our civil discourse are welcome. It would be helpful to get the background from at least some of the Observer items above before posting.
To all - Please be extremely cautious when it comes to naming or implicating people and addresses not in the public eye or with no direct connection to the story, and around the understandable health speculations, especially where details are unclear or still emerging. Remember, even Hollywood rabbits attract the odd flea. Please do not engage with visitors who seem to have their own agenda and seek to derail. Avoid @'ing and quoting them as - from experience - this will only encourage them back to the threads. We have done amazingly well together for sixteen very interesting, very serious and very silly threads so far. I can't be here as much as I'd like so all help with keeping our discussion walking along in our usual reasonable and respectful fashion is very welcome.

Yes, it really is Thread 17. I'm as in need of smelling salts as the next person.

We seek them here, we seek them there, mumsnetters seek them everywhere: just where are the elusive How not to Dal dy Dir and On Winter Hill?

#handwavium #appropriation

Keep to the path. No saltiness. May the fudge be with you.

The real Salt Path: how a blockbuster book and film were ...

The real Salt Path: how a blockbuster book and film were ...

Penniless and homeless, the Winns found fame and fortune with the story of their 630-mile walk to salvation. We can reveal that the truth behind it is ve...

https://observer.co.uk/news/national/article/the-real-salt-path-how-the-couple-behind-a-bestseller-left-a-trail-of-debt-and-deceit

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Vroomfondleswaistcoat · 25/09/2025 09:16

Pissenlit · 25/09/2025 09:12

I occasionally go to one of two local reading groups run by bookshops. Last time I went to one, the book was by a local author I know slightly through mutual friends, and she called by for the first 20 minutes/half hour to discuss it and take questions. The moment the door shut behind her, the people who had asked perfectly polite ‘What made you…?’ questions started ripping the book apart like jackals on a carcass. I was fascinated, as it was a perfectly competent, but uninspired crime novel. It had done nothing to deserve such ire, it was just a bit lacking in characterisation.

I am fascinated by book groups, though, because of what they tell me about how other people read. I had not expected quite so much of people blaming a novel for not being a completely different type of novel which it had never claimed to be!

The only other time I’d attended that group, the book was a (very good) coming of age Irish-American family saga set over a few months in the late 70s, focusing on teenage siblings. Several people seemed terribly pissed off that it wasn’t a thriller, or didn’t take place over 20 years, or that you didn’t get the parents POV.

I only have to look at my reviews to get this same effect. 'I would have preferred this book if (the main characters had been completely different people and the ending had been different and, in fact, none of the actions had taken place)' is often the general wording.

To which most authors mutter (to themselves, never EVER in public) "well, off you fuck and write your own book where that happens, then."

Fandango52 · 25/09/2025 09:21

Pissenlit · 25/09/2025 09:12

I occasionally go to one of two local reading groups run by bookshops. Last time I went to one, the book was by a local author I know slightly through mutual friends, and she called by for the first 20 minutes/half hour to discuss it and take questions. The moment the door shut behind her, the people who had asked perfectly polite ‘What made you…?’ questions started ripping the book apart like jackals on a carcass. I was fascinated, as it was a perfectly competent, but uninspired crime novel. It had done nothing to deserve such ire, it was just a bit lacking in characterisation.

I am fascinated by book groups, though, because of what they tell me about how other people read. I had not expected quite so much of people blaming a novel for not being a completely different type of novel which it had never claimed to be!

The only other time I’d attended that group, the book was a (very good) coming of age Irish-American family saga set over a few months in the late 70s, focusing on teenage siblings. Several people seemed terribly pissed off that it wasn’t a thriller, or didn’t take place over 20 years, or that you didn’t get the parents POV.

The only other time I’d attended that group, the book was a (very good) coming of age Irish-American family saga set over a few months in the late 70s, focusing on teenage siblings. Several people seemed terribly pissed off that it wasn’t a thriller, or didn’t take place over 20 years, or that you didn’t get the parents POV.

Ooh do you remember the title of that book, out of interest? I’d quite like to read it!

BeguiledSilence · 25/09/2025 09:22

Pissenlit · 20/09/2025 10:07

I think that part of her attempt to replicate the success of TSP in subsequent books is that she has to find a way of making them look hapless, victim-y and a bit on the back foot/down on their luck.

The fact is that TSP has made them rich, leisured people with ample time to take off and walk because they don’t need jobs, essentially makes them the people they claimed to pretend to be in TSP. Moneyed retirees with no responsibilities who can afford to walk LD trails at their leisure for fun.

Objectively, the walk in TWS is an expensive holiday in a famously expensive country with friends, so SW has to make pious noises about thank heavens they don’t have to pitch a tent on the grass under the airport flight path, patching her old rucksack, and poor old Moth struggling and losing a tooth in his Mars Bar to stop us noticing that they take an international flight and stay in a hotel to do this walk. It’s not two homeless people semi-starving in a tent, it’s two comfortably-off people going on holiday to walk a tourist path.

Again, the walk in LL is a four-month holiday which involves a car collection service, numerous hotels and taxis, buying bicycles for one stint and posting them home, ordering kit online from their smartphones for delivery to a hotel etc etc. To stop us noticing this, there’s all that guff about Moth’s deterioration, ill-fitting boots, rain, Dave worrying that Moth’s too ill for the walk, and Scottish people not serving them inside cafes because they’re not locals etc.

It’s what SA put his finger on in the NS piece, really. That he gave his blessing to the use of his name in TSP largely because they sounded poor and desperate. But that he was less inclined to be lenient with them rearranging his career timeline for laughs by the time TSP had become a glossy, best-selling, award-winning phenomenon being adapted for film. This couple are definitely no longer ‘down on their luck’. It’s just that they’re trying to stop us noticing because the ‘brand’ is ‘stoical, relatable, child of nature victims’.

@Pissenlit - because of the above quoted, which was very good, I rather hoped you would assess what we have of OWH. There is the blurb, the Muddy Stilettos Cornwall article, and the Get Outside Ordnance Survey article.

Pissenlit · 25/09/2025 11:25

Fandango52 · 25/09/2025 09:21

The only other time I’d attended that group, the book was a (very good) coming of age Irish-American family saga set over a few months in the late 70s, focusing on teenage siblings. Several people seemed terribly pissed off that it wasn’t a thriller, or didn’t take place over 20 years, or that you didn’t get the parents POV.

Ooh do you remember the title of that book, out of interest? I’d quite like to read it!

Una Mannion’s The Crooked Tree.

AncientHarpy · 25/09/2025 11:29

Vroomfondleswaistcoat · 25/09/2025 09:16

I only have to look at my reviews to get this same effect. 'I would have preferred this book if (the main characters had been completely different people and the ending had been different and, in fact, none of the actions had taken place)' is often the general wording.

To which most authors mutter (to themselves, never EVER in public) "well, off you fuck and write your own book where that happens, then."

Yes, it is quite mad, isn't it? I think it's the reason I tend to fizz with irritation when people say, with an air of having been swizzed, of Wuthering Heights, 'But it's not a bit romantic!' or 'The characters aren't realistic!' Though I suppose there you have the excuse of a lot of film adaptations having desperately tried to turn it into a romance via deleting the second generation and making Heathcliff and the first Catherine have a sexual interest in one another that they don't generally seem to have at all in the novel. (Has any film adaptation ever actually featured Heathcliff hanging dogs?)

But there's something quite weird to me about blaming a novel for not being an entirely different kind of novel. It's like going to see When Harry Met Sally in the cinema and complaining that there were no car chases or explosions.

WorthySloth · 25/09/2025 11:39

Currently on a bus in North Devon and there are several couples who are heading to do sections of the SWC path. They’re mostly retired apart from the German couple who look younger. This is pretty typical from my observations as a sort of local.

Vroomfondleswaistcoat · 25/09/2025 11:57

AncientHarpy · 25/09/2025 11:29

Yes, it is quite mad, isn't it? I think it's the reason I tend to fizz with irritation when people say, with an air of having been swizzed, of Wuthering Heights, 'But it's not a bit romantic!' or 'The characters aren't realistic!' Though I suppose there you have the excuse of a lot of film adaptations having desperately tried to turn it into a romance via deleting the second generation and making Heathcliff and the first Catherine have a sexual interest in one another that they don't generally seem to have at all in the novel. (Has any film adaptation ever actually featured Heathcliff hanging dogs?)

But there's something quite weird to me about blaming a novel for not being an entirely different kind of novel. It's like going to see When Harry Met Sally in the cinema and complaining that there were no car chases or explosions.

Without wanting to turn this thread into a general rant at readers - can I also give an honorable mention to reviews which say 'this book doesn't know which genre it wants to be!'?

Maybe it doesn't 'want' to be read as any particular genre? Maybe you should leave your expectations at the door when you pick it up? Why does everything have to fit neatly into little pigeonholes of expectation?

I think I might have to go and rant to my fellow authors now, because I'm cross all over again...

HatStickBoots · 25/09/2025 12:01

Vroomfondleswaistcoat · 25/09/2025 11:57

Without wanting to turn this thread into a general rant at readers - can I also give an honorable mention to reviews which say 'this book doesn't know which genre it wants to be!'?

Maybe it doesn't 'want' to be read as any particular genre? Maybe you should leave your expectations at the door when you pick it up? Why does everything have to fit neatly into little pigeonholes of expectation?

I think I might have to go and rant to my fellow authors now, because I'm cross all over again...

That’s ok. Nothing a silver haired man with a Mars bar can’t fix 😄

Pissenlit · 25/09/2025 16:57

HatStickBoots · 25/09/2025 12:01

That’s ok. Nothing a silver haired man with a Mars bar can’t fix 😄

Maybe Mothman was the Milk Tray Man in a previous existence, using his climbing skills to clamber in windows to deposit chocolate, his silver-blond locks glinting in the moonlight.

@BeguiledSilence, I don’t think we’ll ever see OWH as originally envisaged, unless SW donates her papers to an archive or something and researchers can have great fun comparing MS versions. I think it will need significant alterations to be published now. Assuming it will appear as scheduled in autumn 2026, I imagine said alterations are taking place as we speak.

But for what it’s worth, and from having skimmed what she’s said about it and the blurb, I imagine they’d realised that the ‘Moth in significant deterioration, must be healed by being dragged out to do ever more ambitious walks in which I work very hard to make us look like lonely, marginal underdogs despite now being comfortably rich and comparatively famous, and Moth turns out to do fine on the walk, anyway, after a lot of everyone worrying about his frailty’ had gone as far as they could push it.

OWH will have had the usual scenes in which SW registers TW’s increasing frailty and tries her old techniques of leaving OS maps lying about to inveigle him into another, last walk — ‘because it’s always worked before, hasn’t it? We’ve staved off the inevitable, we’ve conquered fear and pain and self-doubt via the healing power of walking and tapping into the wildness in our hearts etc etc.’

But this time, TW (whom I should call Moth here, because he’s essentially a fictional character) will say no. ‘No, Ray. Not this time. I’m done. We need to face the inevitable. I’m tired of fighting. We need to accept what’s coming.’

‘No!’ Raynor cries, looking into the tired eyes of the man she’d loved since he was a cocky blonde ecowarrior in tweed shorts. ‘No! But it’s the Coast to Coast walk, that we talked about in our very first conversation as you dipped your Mars sexily in your tea!’

‘You go without me, this time, Ray. Me and Monty, the runt of the litter whom we rescued because of all the love in our hearts, will look after one another.”

’No!’

But she does, eventually. ‘I had to accept that I would walk alone from now on. That the hand I’d held for decades was no longer in mine. I had to walk towards acceptance. I had to walk alone, in winter, as a solitary woman, mourning a lost togetherness, bowing my head in the sleet that careened wildly around the wild fells etc etc.)

I assume there will also be something about leaving the cider farm. ‘We had healed the land. It was time to let someone else do the easy stuff, like making cider, and find a new home, like migratory birds, drawn on by instinct, though our real home was always by one another’s side.’

And there will be some quipping about doing the Coast to Coast ‘backwards’, so she is walking home. But she has found healing on the walk. In the harsh weather, in the darkest time of the year, she accepts the healing cycle of nature, which eternally dies and is reborn etc etc. And she should have arranged to walk through the solstice, ‘weathering the darkness as the earth turns back towards the light, even though we can’t see it yet.’

I’m actually impressing myself here. I could ghostwrite OWH in case SW has run out of inspiration.

Uricon2 · 25/09/2025 17:17

@Pissenlit before I got to the end I thought this is a book I would buy!

'OWH: The Mumsnet Edition'

(and "cocky blonde ecowarrior in tweed shorts" is... wonderful)

BeguiledSilence · 25/09/2025 17:30

@Pissenlit I had every confidence you could do this!

Even with a longer than usual disclaimer in the beginning:

I don’t think we’ll ever see OWH as originally envisaged, unless SW donates her papers to an archive or something and researchers can have great fun comparing MS versions. I think it will need significant alterations to be published now. Assuming it will appear as scheduled in autumn 2026, I imagine said alterations are taking place as we speak.

Thanks for an amazing effort 👏

MistMountain · 25/09/2025 17:51

PRH must be kicking themselves that the blurb for OWH is now out there. I don't see how they can fundamentally change the book content now as surely to do so would imply that version 1 wasn't true.

MistMountain · 25/09/2025 17:57

I've just actually taken a look at the Amazon blurb for OWH. Am I correct in thinking that the bit about Moth 'believing his decline is now inevitable' has been removed? 🤔

BeguiledSilence · 25/09/2025 18:08

MistMountain · 25/09/2025 17:57

I've just actually taken a look at the Amazon blurb for OWH. Am I correct in thinking that the bit about Moth 'believing his decline is now inevitable' has been removed? 🤔

That bit is on the Penguin one:

On Winter Hill

On Winter Hill

After a turbulent year, Raynor Winn embarks on the Coast to Coast Walk in winter, unexpectedly alone. Despite 45 years of walking together, setbacks in her husband, Moth's, health have led him to see his decline as inevitable, which Raynor refuses to a...

https://www.penguin.co.uk/books/320471/on-winter-hill-by-winn-raynor/9780241484586

MistMountain · 25/09/2025 18:24

BeguiledSilence · 25/09/2025 18:08

That bit is on the Penguin one:

On Winter Hill

Ah, so I see. I'm sure it used to be on the Amazon one too but it isn't now.

AgitatedGoose · 25/09/2025 18:28

MistMountain · 25/09/2025 18:24

Ah, so I see. I'm sure it used to be on the Amazon one too but it isn't now.

I thought it was on the Amazon one too.

HatStickBoots · 25/09/2025 19:40

@Pissenlit that was absolutely brilliant! 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻 literally laughed out loud here and then had to read it all to my DP who is laughing as well.

HatStickBoots · 25/09/2025 19:45

I could definitely see that as a graphic novel too with the fictional version always at odds with the reality…. especially the part where they leave the cider farm because it’s “healed”. In my mind they left it in a worse state than when they started and despite the threat of death by Christmas, Moth is in extreme rude health.. ooops… hence the key left under the mat and they tiptoe away in the dead of night.

SimoArmo · 25/09/2025 20:24

Pissenlit · 25/09/2025 16:57

Maybe Mothman was the Milk Tray Man in a previous existence, using his climbing skills to clamber in windows to deposit chocolate, his silver-blond locks glinting in the moonlight.

@BeguiledSilence, I don’t think we’ll ever see OWH as originally envisaged, unless SW donates her papers to an archive or something and researchers can have great fun comparing MS versions. I think it will need significant alterations to be published now. Assuming it will appear as scheduled in autumn 2026, I imagine said alterations are taking place as we speak.

But for what it’s worth, and from having skimmed what she’s said about it and the blurb, I imagine they’d realised that the ‘Moth in significant deterioration, must be healed by being dragged out to do ever more ambitious walks in which I work very hard to make us look like lonely, marginal underdogs despite now being comfortably rich and comparatively famous, and Moth turns out to do fine on the walk, anyway, after a lot of everyone worrying about his frailty’ had gone as far as they could push it.

OWH will have had the usual scenes in which SW registers TW’s increasing frailty and tries her old techniques of leaving OS maps lying about to inveigle him into another, last walk — ‘because it’s always worked before, hasn’t it? We’ve staved off the inevitable, we’ve conquered fear and pain and self-doubt via the healing power of walking and tapping into the wildness in our hearts etc etc.’

But this time, TW (whom I should call Moth here, because he’s essentially a fictional character) will say no. ‘No, Ray. Not this time. I’m done. We need to face the inevitable. I’m tired of fighting. We need to accept what’s coming.’

‘No!’ Raynor cries, looking into the tired eyes of the man she’d loved since he was a cocky blonde ecowarrior in tweed shorts. ‘No! But it’s the Coast to Coast walk, that we talked about in our very first conversation as you dipped your Mars sexily in your tea!’

‘You go without me, this time, Ray. Me and Monty, the runt of the litter whom we rescued because of all the love in our hearts, will look after one another.”

’No!’

But she does, eventually. ‘I had to accept that I would walk alone from now on. That the hand I’d held for decades was no longer in mine. I had to walk towards acceptance. I had to walk alone, in winter, as a solitary woman, mourning a lost togetherness, bowing my head in the sleet that careened wildly around the wild fells etc etc.)

I assume there will also be something about leaving the cider farm. ‘We had healed the land. It was time to let someone else do the easy stuff, like making cider, and find a new home, like migratory birds, drawn on by instinct, though our real home was always by one another’s side.’

And there will be some quipping about doing the Coast to Coast ‘backwards’, so she is walking home. But she has found healing on the walk. In the harsh weather, in the darkest time of the year, she accepts the healing cycle of nature, which eternally dies and is reborn etc etc. And she should have arranged to walk through the solstice, ‘weathering the darkness as the earth turns back towards the light, even though we can’t see it yet.’

I’m actually impressing myself here. I could ghostwrite OWH in case SW has run out of inspiration.

Edited

This is astounding! It's like you entered Ray's head there for a while. I would be surprised if the book was anything other than what you so clearly and marvellously put here.

[ETA] I think the ending of the book might possibly involve Raynor finding hope at the end of her walk, finding peace in the darkness of winter and going home; not to her physical home, but to Moth, because he is home, who probably suvived on batch cooked freezer meals that RW left for him while she abandoned him to go off walking...which she seemed to do when she had book events and deleted the evidence on IG.

Catwith69lives · 26/09/2025 07:21

Walking the C2C in January struck me as slightly bonkers (a bit like going to Iceland in Feb 2017 when they were supposedly living a hand to mouth existence in Polruan on a student loan...).

Cynically I wonder if it was down to the fact that SW had been given a 3 book deal by PRH after the success of TSP and Feb 2025 was the only window of opportunity left to do a short walk (14 days), turn it into a book (OWH), before the publicity of the film launch, the Gigspanner Tour and the Litfest appearances (by which time Moth will have made another of his miraculous recoveries or be living off a freezer load of precooked meals (a photo of some of which appeared in one of SW's IG feeds before being subsequently removed!)

Pissenlit · 26/09/2025 08:04

Catwith69lives · 26/09/2025 07:21

Walking the C2C in January struck me as slightly bonkers (a bit like going to Iceland in Feb 2017 when they were supposedly living a hand to mouth existence in Polruan on a student loan...).

Cynically I wonder if it was down to the fact that SW had been given a 3 book deal by PRH after the success of TSP and Feb 2025 was the only window of opportunity left to do a short walk (14 days), turn it into a book (OWH), before the publicity of the film launch, the Gigspanner Tour and the Litfest appearances (by which time Moth will have made another of his miraculous recoveries or be living off a freezer load of precooked meals (a photo of some of which appeared in one of SW's IG feeds before being subsequently removed!)

Edited

I think that’s very likely, actually. As I seem to say a lot, the Walkers have turned into the exactly kind of people they claimed to despise on the SWCP — moneyed and having to walk to a tight schedule because of their busy lives. It seems very possible that she had to shoehorn in a book walk around her many other commitments, and then provide a possibly retrofitted rationale for why it was in winter and why she did it alone.

It’s completely mad to do the Coast to Coast path ‘backwards’ in winter, too — you’ll be walking straight into freezing prevailing winds the whole way. Simon A in his Walking Home book does the Pennine Way ‘backwards’ so that he can walk towards home, and is eloquent on why it makes it harder.

But SW works hard to present them as still being underdogs, so perhaps this was part of it. Woman alone, walking into sleety wind, head bowed, reflective etc.

BeguiledSilence · 26/09/2025 08:19

Catwith69lives · 26/09/2025 07:21

Walking the C2C in January struck me as slightly bonkers (a bit like going to Iceland in Feb 2017 when they were supposedly living a hand to mouth existence in Polruan on a student loan...).

Cynically I wonder if it was down to the fact that SW had been given a 3 book deal by PRH after the success of TSP and Feb 2025 was the only window of opportunity left to do a short walk (14 days), turn it into a book (OWH), before the publicity of the film launch, the Gigspanner Tour and the Litfest appearances (by which time Moth will have made another of his miraculous recoveries or be living off a freezer load of precooked meals (a photo of some of which appeared in one of SW's IG feeds before being subsequently removed!)

Edited

Yes, it would be bonkers - if she did walk it.

It echoes, what we examined, in TSP - where she doesn't even say she does it all. She gets the bus/train x 4 in TSP but all we get in the later interviews is the whole 630 miles, Everest x 4 talk.

This about OWH:

"The walk took around two weeks. I had some issues, like the Vale of Mowbray was so flooded, I ended up just lost in some endless flood of farmland, and in trouble with farmers on quad bikes so I had to skip that bit. So it’s not totally finished. ...

...I had just reached Hawes Water and it just dumped snow to a point where there was no way over. So I had to skip that bit too, and go down through the Central Lakes, where there was no snow. So I probably missed about three days, but that’s the perils of winter."

And then, of course:

"being utterly alone in those wild, vast, open moors and for an entire long-distance walk, not passing another long-distance walker doing the same path. That was that was a surprise in itself."

I'll bet!

Uricon2 · 26/09/2025 09:24

Simon A in his Walking Home book does the Pennine Way ‘backwards’ so that he can walk towards home, and is eloquent on why it makes it harder.

Absolutely, and he did it in summer. It was still quite gruelling in parts.

Found this which gives a flavour if you haven't read the book

www.theguardian.com/travel/2012/jun/23/simon-armitage-poet-walking-pennine-way

Fandango52 · 26/09/2025 12:02

Uricon2 · 26/09/2025 09:24

Simon A in his Walking Home book does the Pennine Way ‘backwards’ so that he can walk towards home, and is eloquent on why it makes it harder.

Absolutely, and he did it in summer. It was still quite gruelling in parts.

Found this which gives a flavour if you haven't read the book

www.theguardian.com/travel/2012/jun/23/simon-armitage-poet-walking-pennine-way

Thanks to the many positive mentions of it on here, I’ve just started reading it and am enjoying it so far. I haven’t read much of his stuff, so hadn’t realised how witty he is. I also like how honest he is when things aren’t going to plan, as well as his willingness to poke fun at himself 😂

Words · 26/09/2025 15:08

@Uricon2

Thank you so much for that Guardian piece about SA walking the Pennine Way. I am going to buy both books I think.

As with all writing -be it poetry or prose - that appeals to me the most, reading those excerpts felt like I was meeting a stranger who in an instant, is a friend.

Not only am I very familiar with the section of the PW around Windy Gile, I have also fallen prey to many of the follies he describes so brilliantly well.

Most especially: Striding out far too quickly and confidently at first, leading to energy depletion and massive navigational errors ( usually when tired at the end of the day. )

This is because my own judgment ( bolstered by my confidence in my OS map reading skills from Miss Mills' O level geography lessons in 1857) is obviously superior to whatever new fangled devices I have brought with me.

And yes, these are usually at the bottom of my backpack too.

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