I’m absolutely stunned by some of the posts on this thread. I mean, I was fully aware of the hatred that some of you people feel for the working classes, and poor people in particular. The fact that some of you would rather live in a tent in the right postcode than live within 500 yards of social housing demonstrates that. But this is really something else.
The people who said they came from very deprived backgrounds spoke of a world with no broader horizons - decent parents will give their kids an idea the sky is the limit. You can do that with books or a free museum trip just as much as with a skiing holiday. And they will seek promotions in their work to provide the best they can for their kids. They will save too, in case of hard times, rather than spending every last penny. They will try to advance themselves. Then they will become middle class and their kids will not be wanted in the civil service!
I could have been a housewife. My ex-husband had little ambition and we could have lived in relative squalor. But I used my brain and held down a decent job and paid for childcare to do that - as anyone should - and provided a decent home. This is apparently privileged behaviour! So just work harder and there’ll be no poverty? Ahh, I wonder why this didn’t occur to my parents? Maybe it was because they both left school before they were 15, with no qualifications, so they could get jobs, the same as their parents did, so they had no idea that broader horizons were even out there and the concern was to get a job, the steadier the better, so that we could keep a roof over our head and food in the cupboard. Or maybe it’s because domestic violence, complete lack of a support network, twins, cancer and other debilitating illnesses aren’t lifestyle choices? With a brain like yours, you shouldn’t restrict yourself to just a ‘decent’ job. You should be advising the Chancellor. Or at the very least, standing outside food banks with a megaphone, announcing to people that they don’t need to be in poverty, they can get out of it by just getting a better paid job. Genius.
To those who don’t take responsibility for their actions and blame abstract groups of oppressors for poor life decisions, reality must feel like discrimination and life will always be a struggle 😂 You absolute fool. Get back in your bubble; you’re embarrassing yourself.
Re house prices excluding attendance at certain state schools That’s parental choice, surely? The school is free Do you think an ability to afford an extra grand a month in mortgage costs is a parental ‘choice’?
I wouldn't want any kids to miss out because of their parents life choices Life choices? You think that someone looks at a high flying, well paid career in the city and thinks to themselves ‘no, that’s not for me. I don’t want a beautiful house, a nice reliable car and exotic holidays every year. I’d rather scrub other people’s toilets, or deliver their shopping to them’?
Bloody hell there are so many turkeys voting for Christmas on this thread
Good luck when other groups go all virtue signally and do the same thing. When the NHS becomes the preserve of those whose parents are market sellers or who have connections in the NHS. When the police becomes the preserve of children of home help carers or people connected to current officers. When academia becomes the preserve of people who are not actually academic, or people with connections to academics Do you even understand what’s being offered here? It’s a relatively low number of internships designed to show a relatively low number of kids that they can work in the civil service too, and it’s not just for the posh kids, who can still apply for the fast streams, and the full time positions, as they always have. The CS isn’t suddenly going to become the preserve of the working classes because a door has been opened to them, anymore than Asda will become the preserve of the middle classes because they’ve decided they’d like to compete with Waitrose and have reserved half a dozen jobs for people with RP accents. And these interns still have to meet other criteria. They still have to be suitable and capable candidates. Jayden isn’t going to single-handedly bring down the Civil Service when he turns up in his tracksuit clutching a single gcse in woodworking, and saying he can’t work Wednesdays as that’s when he meets his probation officer, ffs. 🤦♀️
In terms of networks my WC have much stronger networks as they have generations to build them. It is pretty common for them to have got employment through those contacts And do you think that uncle Dave’s plumber mate will be talking to your peer’s children about pursuing a career in law? Or in medicine? Or architecture? Or will it be an occupation where they might earn a bit of cash now, but their bodies will be knackered well before retirement age? Do you think your MC peers contacts will be talking to their children about getting a job in Asda? Or as a hair dresser? Can you see how networks in different classes would achieve different results? Or do you still think it’s comparable across the classes?
I can’t decide if it’s outrage that there are 200 less positions for your own DC, if you’re worried that the role will be de-valued by the plebs getting involved or whether it’s just general outrage that some uppity commoners might want a bit more from their futures than their parents had.