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Best places for diverse, professional families near London?

224 replies

Paniconthestreetsof · 20/07/2025 12:04

DH and I currently live (very happily) in Zone 1. We’re now thinking about moving as we want more space (a house and garden), good schools, and access to green space for our kids. Budget is around £1.5m.

We’re looking for:

  • A genuinely diverse area, with a visible Black community (we’d prefer our children not to be the only ones in their class)
  • A mix of middle-class professionals from different backgrounds
  • Green spaces and a relaxed, family-friendly feel
  • Good connections into central London for work a few days a week

We’re not from the UK originally and don’t have ties outside this bit of London, so wide open to ideas.

Worth saying upfront: well-meaning replies like “well I’m not Black and it’s not very diverse around here but we don’t see colour” or “there is a large (insert non-Black ethnic minority) community here” aren’t what we’re after.

If you’re Black or mixed race and living somewhere you love outside Zones 1–2 (especially if you moved from central), I’d love to know where you are and what you like about it.

OP posts:
SimplySoo · 23/07/2025 16:50

SouthernFashionista · 22/07/2025 23:02

On the SW London suggestions, Tooting would probably suit you. It is predominantly non-white and a broad mix of financial backgrounds.

Can people stop recommending Tooting? It's primarily South Asian communities. This is not what the OP is asking after.

The nearest best place nearby Tooting with black communities would probably be Streatham/Streatham Hill, which has changed a lot financially in the last decade.

Crikeyalmighty · 23/07/2025 18:00

@SimplySoo has it changed then? When my son lived there in 2019 there was always a large black community very visible, rather than just an Asian one. - I loved the carribean bakery too .

diterictur · 23/07/2025 18:03

Crikeyalmighty · 23/07/2025 18:00

@SimplySoo has it changed then? When my son lived there in 2019 there was always a large black community very visible, rather than just an Asian one. - I loved the carribean bakery too .

I live in Tooting, there absolutely is a black community there. It's not as big as in say Streatham but it is a decent size. About a third of my children's school is black

oudle · 23/07/2025 18:35

I wouldn't say there is a large % of black people living in the houses on the Heaver Estate/Trinity road way or around Graveney though.

diterictur · 23/07/2025 18:50

oudle · 23/07/2025 18:35

I wouldn't say there is a large % of black people living in the houses on the Heaver Estate/Trinity road way or around Graveney though.

I guess it depends on how narrowly you want to look at these things, you might be able to find half a road here or there in Tooting without a black family but I would be astonished in Tooting if you could find a school with less than 10% black children. Including Graveney.

There are much whiter areas that have been suggested on this thread .. I still roll my eyes at Chislehurst as a suggestion! But also suggested were Oxford, Windsor, Maidenhead, Brighton. I would suggest that Tooting isn't the obvious suggestion to pick out as not black enough.

Crikeyalmighty · 23/07/2025 19:01

@diterictur totally agree -!! I lived in 2 streets in Oxford - both in summertown which is likely the area the OP may well fancy house wise and cannot ever remember seeing a single black family , a few Asian families yes but not that many either proportionally to be honest -lots of Americans and Germans and comfortably off white Brits.

Crikeyalmighty · 23/07/2025 19:03

@diterictur have also lived in Windsor too ( we get around) and lots and lots of Asian families but again I can’t remember a single black family in the area we were - although the Tory MP at the time was black

oudle · 23/07/2025 19:10

@diterictur obviously I've not knocked on every door but I spend a lot of time on these roads so have some insight. The OP I believe wants families like her on her road.

JHound · 23/07/2025 19:20

TempestTost · 21/07/2025 18:00

The OPs subsequent comments, to me, looked like she is interested in a black community, and the diverse element is a lot less important, that is, as long as they was a sizeable black community she didn't mind who else was or was not there. Possibly that's not true, but that was absolutely the impression I had.

It also seems like the places she likes are fairly liberal communities, and it seems that those are the suggestions she's most positive about. But perhaps not.

People often use the term "diverse" to mean non-white. Even about single individuals, as in "She is a diverse person". Other people read it exclusively as a term to be applied to groups that are mixed. Those two usages are mutually exclusive, and ime often cause people to talk past each other, and in some cases that can cause friction which seems to me happened in this thread, with the OP using it more in the former sense and some posters more in the latter.

I don't really care if you think I'm a massive racist, I think you very likely are, so your opinion doesn't mean a lot to me.

I have never ever ever heard the term “he / she is a diverse person”.

JHound · 23/07/2025 19:21

BeRubyLurker · 21/07/2025 04:49

Where has this woman said she’s liberally progressive?

She hasn’t asked for a ‘Black neighbourhood’. She’s asked for ‘genuinely diverse area, with a visible Black community’. This is not complicated. So, a massive Asian community and no Black people wouldn't be appropriate, for example.

And, yes, it’s still diversity - why would the presence of a visible Black community render a place non-diverse? Why would the presence of a ‘mix of middle-class professionals from different backgrounds’ (direct quote, again) mean a place isn’t diverse? She didn’t say ‘nobody of any other background or socio-economic group can live there’, mind. Just that she’d like Black people and people of similar socioeconomic background to be present. The absolute cheek of her.

Every single Black person reading this, regardless of their background, understands exactly what she means and why she wants it. She cross-posted to Black MN and there’s been exactly no confusion over there (the existence of Black MN - a place for Black people to discuss Black issues is pretty illustrative of why she wants it). There is zero implication that we are ‘all the same’ or any of that nonsense.

However - and this really appears to be because OP has the temerity to be Black, well off, and in search of similar people - it appears to have got a lot of your backs up over here on AIBU. She’s apparently ‘rude’, ‘hung up on the Black thing’, hates the working class, wants a neighbourhood of only rich Black people and isn’t really interested in diversity. A bunch of you have literally read an extremely clear post and written a parallel narrative.

But I’m sure you’d be astonished and offended to be told you’re racist.

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LBOCS2 · 23/07/2025 20:10

oudle · 20/07/2025 14:04

This may be outdated now but I do remember quite a few school friends from South Croydon & the surrounds. Croydon gets a bad rep but parts of it are very leafy and very different to the image.

We’re in leafy Sanderstead - just outside (4 miles up the hill from) Croydon. It has two direct train lines into town (Purley Oaks and Sanderstead, 25 mins to London Bridge or Victoria, plus the Thameslink at peak times) and has great state schools - both primary and secondary. I would say that the primaries are less diverse but then some of that is because we moved up here from Selsdon, so it’s more of a ‘by comparison’ rather than ‘not diverse’, if you see what I mean. DD1’s secondary (which is Outstanding and gets excellent-for-a-non-selective-school results) has an intake which reflects the demographic of the borough it’s in, so it’s very mixed.

It’s also nice and cheap (for houses in London z6) because people get put off by the fact that it’s in the borough of Croydon 🤷🏻‍♀️😁

SouthernFashionista · 23/07/2025 22:14

SimplySoo · 23/07/2025 16:50

Can people stop recommending Tooting? It's primarily South Asian communities. This is not what the OP is asking after.

The nearest best place nearby Tooting with black communities would probably be Streatham/Streatham Hill, which has changed a lot financially in the last decade.

That is ridiculous. If indeed the OP is looking for a ‘genuinely diverse community with visible black population’ then Tooting is probably the perfect place for her.

Onemorenamechangeagain · 24/07/2025 00:14

BeRubyLurker · 21/07/2025 08:58

I’m a bit baffled by this. Merton is 40% non-white, of which Black people make up over 10%. Raynes Park and Morden lower proportions, but still pretty large minority ethnic communities. That’s not diverse?

The 40% is predominantly in Mitcham, although Morden has become more "diverse" in the past 20 years or so.

SouthernFashionista · 27/07/2025 08:03

Onemorenamechangeagain · 24/07/2025 00:14

The 40% is predominantly in Mitcham, although Morden has become more "diverse" in the past 20 years or so.

Morden and Mitcham are not desirable locations at all, regardless of their supposedly increased diversity.

Onemorenamechangeagain · 27/07/2025 10:13

SouthernFashionista · 27/07/2025 08:03

Morden and Mitcham are not desirable locations at all, regardless of their supposedly increased diversity.

I was simply explaining the demographics as the person I was responding to seemed unaware. And while the town centres may seem "undesirable" to some, there are parts of both areas which are nice and leafy. House prices in both regions will reflect that.

MissPrismsMistake · 27/07/2025 10:56

Maybe it’s worth remembering that what the OP appeared to want is a vibrant, thriving area that she and her family would find stimulating and exciting to live in. Some of the places people are listing are, as far as I can recall, quite unbelievably dreary, dull and depressing. The fact that there may be two particular streets with a number of Black residents doesn’t, in itself, make them suitable for her purpose.

Crikeyalmighty · 27/07/2025 12:23

@MissPrismsMistake totally agree- in all fairness it’s why I liked Tooting when my son lived there - not swanky but had a good vibe, nice markets , some nice gastro pubs , a very mixed population including large Afro carribean one, decent hospital and a very big mix of housing both leafy and urban -plus tube and the train . handy for popping to Wimbledon too

Onemorenamechangeagain · 27/07/2025 12:34

@Paniconthestreetsof have you considered West London at all?

Paniconthestreetsof · 16/10/2025 23:07

Hello! Just popped back to update, in case anyone was interested. We’re moving to Brockley. 🙂

OP posts:
Unexpectedlysinglemum · 16/10/2025 23:14

Kingston

FastFood · 16/10/2025 23:21

Paniconthestreetsof · 16/10/2025 23:07

Hello! Just popped back to update, in case anyone was interested. We’re moving to Brockley. 🙂

Well done, fantastic area!
Now you need a cockapoo and a yoga mat.

LBFseBrom · 17/10/2025 09:21

Chislehurst is lovely.

MissPrismsMistake · 17/10/2025 10:02

<Awaits detailed account of decision making process>

Glad you’ve found somewhere you like, @Paniconthestreetsof!

peachandbloodorange · 17/10/2025 15:19

@Paniconthestreetsof oh amazing! be sure to get yourself a welcome breakfast at Good as Gold, Broca, or Dream Story, and a welcome dinner at Babur, Mauby, or (in Nunhead), D1400!

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