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To feel disappointed after reading this in The Observer about the author and her husband from The Salt Path book and film?

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DisappointedReader · 06/07/2025 02:04

The real Salt Path: how the couple behind a bestseller le...

I read Raynor Winn's book The Salt Path and her other two books. I was looking forward to seeing the film at some point and to reading her next book. I felt sorry to read about the challenges the couple had faced, especially with regard to losing their family home and with Moth's health. Now, having read the article in today's Observer, I feel a bit stunned and am not sure what to think.

The real Salt Path: how the couple behind a bestseller le...

The real Salt Path: how the couple behind a bestseller le...

Penniless and homeless, the Winns found fame and fortune with the story of their 630-mile walk to salvation. We can reveal it was far from the truth

https://observer.co.uk/news/national/article/the-real-salt-path-how-the-couple-behind-a-bestseller-left-a-trail-of-debt-and-deceit

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Judiezones · 06/07/2025 10:50

PandoraSocks · 06/07/2025 10:46

Authors earn money from library loans (up to a maximum of £6,600 per annum), which is annoying in this case!

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I know, but nowhere near as much as from copies of the book though.

shortoedtreecreeper · 06/07/2025 10:50

I remember thinking the were many gaps in the hows and whys of how they got.into their situation.If they are that bad with money they won't keep what they have now, it will all go .

Fretfulagain · 06/07/2025 10:50

I started the book, thought the whole ‘losing’ the house thing didn’t smell right, came here to see if anyone else thought the same and, thank you MN, home of healthy scepticism, there was a thread with a lot of people saying the same. I stopped reading. The Observer piece is no surprise. Sally and Tim is it? Lol.

Comet33 · 06/07/2025 10:52

Tootingbec · 06/07/2025 08:43

Gutted!

Someone bought me the book and it is not my usual “thing” but I ended up loving it and re- reading it several times and recommending it to others 🤨

But even I was a bit confused about why/how they lost their home and why they didn’t accept housing support, just get jobs, get PIP for Moth etc etc

But I put it down to the fact that they were hippy free spirit types who of course couldn’t be expected to live in a council flat doing minimum wage jobs when they were used to running their own business and living on a farm surrounded by fields……So put my skepticism to one side and enjoyed the tale.

What a pair of grifters! And you would think the publisher would have done some basic due diligence/fact checking!!

Same. Like others I thought there was something a bit off about the court case but bought the line they couldn't talk about it & also thought that even if they weren't completely innocent everyone makes mistakes.

I also thought Moth had probably been misdiagnosed.

Liked the fact they were two old, naive hippies who meant well and fell for it hook line & sinker!

TheAutumnCrow · 06/07/2025 10:52

PopeJoan2 · 06/07/2025 10:42

This is all so interesting. I have a gut feeling about another piece of work that I suspect is largely created by AI. I am going to sit it out though and see if anyone else notices in the next few years.

I immediately thought Spare - but apparently a ghostwriter got paid a million quid to come up with that deluded fantasy of woe and weirdness.

As @PermanentTemporary said upthread,

I think what people do when they face losing a life they feel they’re entitled to is really interesting.

But in terms of gut feelings around passages of text, I'm plumping instead for Oprah. Outsiders include Becoming by Michelle Obama or The Woman in Me by Britney Spears.

Cloudsandbees · 06/07/2025 10:52

AWanderingFool · 06/07/2025 10:49

I really hope this story gains traction, and doesn't just disappear.

If you feel strongly about supporting a pair of thieves, I've urge everyone who's bought it to ask for a refund from wherever they bought it as it's been mis-advertised and therefore mis-sold.
Amazon has 'raised a ticket ' for me as my Kindle purchase is outside the 14 day returns window.

Fretfulagain · 06/07/2025 10:54

Aspanielstolemysanity · 06/07/2025 10:08

Ignoring the criminality, yes it would matter to those of us with neurological conditions. We are always battling against the myth that we can exercise ourselves better. Or think ourselves better. Or magically eat the right food and get better.

It's such a dangerous myth and means we go without the support and understanding we deserve

Completely agree. The dishonesty is wrong and dangerous. The whole thing is loathsome and so cynical.

throwawaynametoday · 06/07/2025 10:57

Comet33 · 06/07/2025 10:52

Same. Like others I thought there was something a bit off about the court case but bought the line they couldn't talk about it & also thought that even if they weren't completely innocent everyone makes mistakes.

I also thought Moth had probably been misdiagnosed.

Liked the fact they were two old, naive hippies who meant well and fell for it hook line & sinker!

I was completely taken in and thought that everyone who was suspicious was just being a big old meanie.

In my defense, I've never seen her interviewed. I just watched a couple of her interviews in the Observer video piece that accompanies the article and I can see exactly what people are talking about that she comes across as very insincere and shifty. Easy to spot that now though with the benefit of hindsight. In general I am quite trusting and perhaps not a good judge of character, sadly.

Bunnymummy7 · 06/07/2025 10:57

They will have to put the books in the fiction section now. Or the bin. Clearly Penguin did no due diligence on this pair. Feel like demanding a refund!

AWanderingFool · 06/07/2025 10:58

Cloudsandbees · 06/07/2025 10:52

If you feel strongly about supporting a pair of thieves, I've urge everyone who's bought it to ask for a refund from wherever they bought it as it's been mis-advertised and therefore mis-sold.
Amazon has 'raised a ticket ' for me as my Kindle purchase is outside the 14 day returns window.

Will do!

Cloudsandbees · 06/07/2025 10:58

Bunnymummy7 · 06/07/2025 10:57

They will have to put the books in the fiction section now. Or the bin. Clearly Penguin did no due diligence on this pair. Feel like demanding a refund!

Do it! I'll update on what Amazon's reponse to my refund request is.

Aspanielstolemysanity · 06/07/2025 11:00

throwawaynametoday · 06/07/2025 10:57

I was completely taken in and thought that everyone who was suspicious was just being a big old meanie.

In my defense, I've never seen her interviewed. I just watched a couple of her interviews in the Observer video piece that accompanies the article and I can see exactly what people are talking about that she comes across as very insincere and shifty. Easy to spot that now though with the benefit of hindsight. In general I am quite trusting and perhaps not a good judge of character, sadly.

For me it was the story of the judge not accepting critical evidence that they produced at the last minute. It was so obviously bullshit.

YourAmplePlumPoster · 06/07/2025 11:00

I've read some of the reviews on GoodReads. A fair number of reviewers thought it was tripe and dishonest.

zingally · 06/07/2025 11:00

I'm not surprised tbh.

I read the first book some years ago, and my overall summary of it, even back then, was "self-indulgent tripe."
Then, "You're both adults, stop being so wet."

stayathomer · 06/07/2025 11:01

I’d say there’ll be a case about this, it is strange it’s one article especially as such a large publisher published it and it being a film, you’d guess they’d have checked it out so this may be a case that this article may not be totally true either, as someone said wouldn’t the daily mail have grabbed for it? We honestly can’t believe anything anymore

Anonymouseposter · 06/07/2025 11:02

I read this for my book club. From the outset I thought they had probably made some foolish decisions and she was blaming other people rather than taking responsibility. I was a bit cynical about the book and some people seemed to think I was being miserable not to find it uplifting. Now it turns out that they may be criminal or at least very dishonest.I’m not completely surprised.

SunnieShine · 06/07/2025 11:02

Yellowbirdcage · 06/07/2025 05:21

Vindicated! I saw the movie and was on the thread on here agreeing it seemed emotionally manipulative in that modern way where people know how to get attention.

Felt the same way when I read the very first article about that Jack Monroe. Like hmm that doesn’t sound right. The fire brigade discriminated against you and you lost your job then you had only 50p a week to live on and nobody to turn to. Grifters all of them.

I was going to it say reminds me of Jack Monroe.

GenerousGardener · 06/07/2025 11:03

On X or Twitter
https://x.com/observeruk/status/1941738885106872782?s=46&t=pln5Z6rGtqgzRm0aM4pGKQ

faffadoodledo · 06/07/2025 11:03

stayathomer · 06/07/2025 11:01

I’d say there’ll be a case about this, it is strange it’s one article especially as such a large publisher published it and it being a film, you’d guess they’d have checked it out so this may be a case that this article may not be totally true either, as someone said wouldn’t the daily mail have grabbed for it? We honestly can’t believe anything anymore

The journalist who wrote this for the Observer has great form with this kind of investigative stuff. The paper too has a mission to investigate.

The Mail just doesn’t compare. So not strange at all.

Tedsshed · 06/07/2025 11:03

AnnaMagnani · 06/07/2025 09:45

This is why I only lasted 4 sessions of book group.

Had a massive disagreement over a book which I thought was crap and everyone else loved.

Realised I was wasting my precious reading time on books I actively disliked and going to a group to be told I wasn't as kind/sensitive as the rest of the group.

Also being a doctor kind of ruins this sort of book. If diagnosed with an illness that primarily affects your ability to walk, how are you walking a coastal path or wild camping? Does the book ever mention him falling over/getting stuck more or less continuously?

Yes, I had that argument with my book groupers too. In fact only the other day when someone mentioned seeing the film how heart-warming it was I said 'But Moth was supposed to be terminally ill and unable to walk, so why did she drag him hundreds of miles along a coastal footpath?' She got very angry about not all terminal illnesses being immediately terminal, and not all disabilities being visible and that life itself is a terminal condition.

What bothers me is that so many people didn't pick up on it. There are an awful lot of people who seem susceptible to anyone with a hard luck story, people who will accept practically anything they're told. It's dangerous. As one of those who has spent the last few years trying to remind everyone that humans can't change sex and that transwomen are men, it concerns me deeply that some people would rather be kind but wrong (and thus enable all kinds of terrible things to happen) rather than right but unpopular.

MikeRafone · 06/07/2025 11:03

Interesting is the reviews on amazon back in 2020 are suspect at times and also can't understand why the book is so popular

check out the 1 star reviews

Siltone makes some interesting points

Duh · 06/07/2025 11:03

A Grain of Salt Path…

Aspanielstolemysanity · 06/07/2025 11:04

YourAmplePlumPoster · 06/07/2025 11:00

I've read some of the reviews on GoodReads. A fair number of reviewers thought it was tripe and dishonest.

I just looked on the Storygraph app and someone has already updated their review with a link to the Observer article Grin

Shocking how many people loved it primarily because they felt it was an honest account though.

CuddlesKovinsky · 06/07/2025 11:06

Brava, Chloe Hadjimatheou, lovely work 👏.

And it clearly took months to do - I guess Penguin would find it too expensive to do that sort of research on every book they publish. But I imagine they have a clause in their contract about good faith that it IS true? In which case, they win-win - they'll have made loads from the books and the film rights, and they could probably sue the Walkers for their money back...

I guess a minimal number of people would ask for a refund, but the real loss is to have had their faith in humanity dented a little more... or maybe it's a worthwhile lesson...

TheAutumnCrow · 06/07/2025 11:06

Aspanielstolemysanity · 06/07/2025 10:08

Ignoring the criminality, yes it would matter to those of us with neurological conditions. We are always battling against the myth that we can exercise ourselves better. Or think ourselves better. Or magically eat the right food and get better.

It's such a dangerous myth and means we go without the support and understanding we deserve

This is such an important point that you and other posters with illnesses and disabilities are making.

On a day when The Telegraph is claiming that people are getting PIP 'for acne and writer's cramp' (spoiler: no they are not - The Telegraph has simply regurgitated the garbage of DWP data collection coding errors), it's more important than ever that narratives around illness are truthful.

It's a bit heartbreaking that the supposedly redemptive genres of literature and film are being used to feed into a malevolent political undercurrent.

And surprise, surprise; it's the 'chin up' culture that is the grift, not the lives of people with illnesses.

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