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Sick of eatting out and it’s not that good!

295 replies

Greekdream · 15/06/2025 15:06

Second time this week eatting out one was a birthday celebration and today for father day
both times spending over 100 quid and the food worse then you make at home

just don’t wanna go it anymore unless it’s somewhere really good
tricky when it’s special occasions tho

OP posts:
Rosscameasdoody · 15/06/2025 19:06

Redpeach · 15/06/2025 19:04

At home, someone has to cook and wash up

Yep, to be honest I’ve never eaten out for Sunday lunch to the same standard as a home cooked roast. Plus there’s leftovers and sandwiches and coffee later on, and possibly a curry next day.

CrispEatingExpert · 15/06/2025 19:06

twiddlingthumbs69 · 15/06/2025 18:40

I’m afraid that 99% of the food that you have out, whether it be chains or independents all use either Brakes or Bidfood. (I know, I’m in the trade)
it comes in a box, the only skills you need in the kitchen is to know how to read the instructions and how to arrange it on the plate. A handy little picture is attached for that.
Nothing is fresh or cooked from scratch.
when was the last time you walked into somewhere and smelled the Sunday roast (etc) cooking?
the only difference in the venues is the price, the food is the same.
granted some higher price pubs/restaurants can cater for the more upmarket food but that because they can afford the higher prices in the wholesale catalogues/websites.
having been in the trade for 35 years there has been a huge decline in food quality and prep. The bottom line is it’s far cheaper to buy in bulk, make a guaranteed profit on it and have less waste

It’s definitely not 99% where I live. Most of our local independent pubs use meat from local farms, local bread and locally made ice cream. The ice cream can be brought directly from the dairy farm in a little hut next to the milking sheds and our local butchers rears and slaughters most of their own animals.

One local pub even offers free meals in exchange for locally grown produce and eggs.

I realise this probably isn’t the norm, but I really don’t think the number is as high a 99%.

Redpeach · 15/06/2025 19:08

mum2jakie · 15/06/2025 15:53

Not everything that makes life enjoyable is a necessity!

But if you're worried about money, don't have dessert

Redpeach · 15/06/2025 19:09

Rosscameasdoody · 15/06/2025 19:06

Yep, to be honest I’ve never eaten out for Sunday lunch to the same standard as a home cooked roast. Plus there’s leftovers and sandwiches and coffee later on, and possibly a curry next day.

Still, that's all labour that someone has to do

Redpeach · 15/06/2025 19:13

Scarfitwere · 15/06/2025 15:57

So true! Especially Miller and Carter....fine dining for chavs

Pretty unpleasant comment, i've never heard of them

cumbriaisbest · 15/06/2025 19:13

I can think of 2 or 3 memorable meals and the rest have been rubbish. I can't justify spending £80.00 on what is basically bread dough tomatoe puree and a bit of cheese ( for example)
Very very rarely eat out.

Tiddlywinkly · 15/06/2025 19:13

Same with most takeaways. Even our regular has gotten crap. Love the idea of not cooking and doing the washing up. Disappointing reality that comes to bite you in the bum with bad sleep from too much salt and grease. Not worth it 😕

DuesToTheDirt · 15/06/2025 19:14

Other countries seem to manage this better - or am I wrong?

cumbriaisbest · 15/06/2025 19:15

twiddlingthumbs69 · 15/06/2025 18:40

I’m afraid that 99% of the food that you have out, whether it be chains or independents all use either Brakes or Bidfood. (I know, I’m in the trade)
it comes in a box, the only skills you need in the kitchen is to know how to read the instructions and how to arrange it on the plate. A handy little picture is attached for that.
Nothing is fresh or cooked from scratch.
when was the last time you walked into somewhere and smelled the Sunday roast (etc) cooking?
the only difference in the venues is the price, the food is the same.
granted some higher price pubs/restaurants can cater for the more upmarket food but that because they can afford the higher prices in the wholesale catalogues/websites.
having been in the trade for 35 years there has been a huge decline in food quality and prep. The bottom line is it’s far cheaper to buy in bulk, make a guaranteed profit on it and have less waste

Thats very interesting and as I suspected.

Tiddlywinkly · 15/06/2025 19:16

DuesToTheDirt · 15/06/2025 19:14

Other countries seem to manage this better - or am I wrong?

God, yes! I was in Naples and the locals would pop in on the way home from work and have their pizzas cooked in the ovens. Delicious, fresh, cheap.

Goodlorditssummer · 15/06/2025 19:17

Rosscameasdoody · 15/06/2025 19:06

Yep, to be honest I’ve never eaten out for Sunday lunch to the same standard as a home cooked roast. Plus there’s leftovers and sandwiches and coffee later on, and possibly a curry next day.

Agree with this too! I am a long way from being any kind of chef but I can make a better Sunday roast that I can buy, anywhere. I’ve been doing it for decades, it’s no hassle, glass of wine whilst I cook and load the dishwasher as I go. Plus, curry Monday follows 🥰 And the dogs all get a proper Yorkshire pudding!

cumbriaisbest · 15/06/2025 19:21

(£90/£150 a head) for treats

So £300 for 2 people? Mind blowing to me.

DuesToTheDirt · 15/06/2025 19:23

I ate out with friends last night for a special occasion, and it was excellent, but expensive. It was lovely for a treat, but not something I would do just to avoid the cooking and washing up.

ChocolateCinderToffee · 15/06/2025 19:24

yeah, my benchmark is 'could I make it better at home?' If I could, I'm not likely to go back.

Talkinpeace · 15/06/2025 19:31

Things like Sushi and Vietnamese are better out
as they have the right kit and ingredients.

Stuff I can cook from trusted sources at home is not worth paying VAT on

lydgjhsCSBCH · 15/06/2025 19:32

KeepTalkingBeth · 15/06/2025 18:13

But the tax regime hasn't changed enormously in the last 5 years - consumers have been paying VAT at 20% everywhere (not just the food industry) for ages, and the NI changes are very recent. Every employer has to deal with premises costs and increases in minimum wage and energy prices, not just restaurants. I think everyone understands that.

But in the same period there's been a noticeable drop in quality together with price hikes in places that previously offered good food at competitive prices. It's thag double whammy that people are on about. I don't think people mind paying more for good food. It's the overpriced crap that puts people off.

A minority of restaurants seem to manage to keep serving good food so it seems that it can be done.

The places that still deliver great food are expensive, because they are not cutting quality. This thread is evidence that people won't pay what it costs, hence previously good places serving less good food as they are in desperation going for cheaper suppliers. The price hikes reflect the soaring input costs not profiteering, it isn't just the VAT/NIC, it is everything. Think how much your energy costs would be now v 5 years ago if you ran several ovens for half the day. I've just had a letter from our fish supplier saying they can no longer supply cod at due to reduced quotas and overseas military activity in their fishing zones. Fish prices are sky rocketing. Starmer hasn't helped with his activities. Literally every input cost is unaffordable now.

We serve great food, people complain we are expensive but we are currently running at a loss.

The chains are cheap because everything is mass produced with the lowest cost ingredients in a factory, frozen or vac packed and microwaved or deep fried on site. That costs far less than employing a highly qualified chef to prep and cook fresh local ingredients from scratch.

If customers can't or won't pay what it actually costs a business to produce a high quality meal then the only option they will be left with will be a budget chain as everywhere else will go bust.

The cheapest food you will find will most likely be in small family run restaurants. They don't pay themselves salaries, hence avoid all the payroll taxes. They take money out of the business other ways. Given the biggest input cost for most restaurants is staff they have a big competitive advantage and can under cut.

I'd love for some of the people on this thread who think they know everything about running a restaurant to actually have to for a month.

BunnyLake · 15/06/2025 19:32

StooOrangeyForCrows · 15/06/2025 18:02

Mass produced microwaved crap is right.

Lately I can't eat out without getting ill afterwards and the quality and quantity has been shaved down endlessly. The joy has gone.

I’ve noticed these last couple of years that nearly every time I eat out I get a stomach upset, it was making me quite anxious to eat out. I wonder if it’s the oils they use, (I use olive oil).

Tulipvase · 15/06/2025 19:33

As others have said, I like to eat out for the occasion. I have 3 kids aged between 14 and 20 and it’s something that we all enjoy. Except the price v value. We have a good pub near us that does good food but at £10 a starter, £20 a main and £8 for pudding and then drinks, it’s expensive. 2 courses and a drink or two is getting on for £200 quid for 5 of us.

AliciaLeeming · 15/06/2025 19:36

I agree. I'm vegetarian and it's very rare now for me to have a decent meal out. So rare that we hardly ever bother.

I don't want to eat fake food and far too often that is the only option available to me.

MissSookieStackhouse · 15/06/2025 19:36

I completely agree, OP. I said as much to my partner. We’ve been away this weekend and had two expensive but indifferent meals. We had an all day breakfast for tea when we got home as we were too tired to cook properly and it was still better than anything else we’ve had this weekend!

indoorplantqueen · 15/06/2025 19:37

I eat at least once/ twice per week and it’s generally very food. Went out today 7 adults and 2 kids and the food was fab. Ordered huge Sunday dinner sharing boards and there was very little left. Deserts were amazing.

cumbriaisbest · 15/06/2025 19:39

I notice eggs and bread feature heavily. Cheap obviously.

Soukmyfalafel · 15/06/2025 19:40

People are just more experimental and better cooks at home now. Cooking is a popular hobby for people now and not necessarily seen as a chore.

Why would I go out a for a £18 lasagne which I can cook better at (and am bored of) eating at home? That would cook one twice over at home almost. It just doesn't make sense. I'm happy to have a drink or pudding, but a full three course meal is too expensive.

Anything slighty interesting is ridiculously expensive and would probably enjoy the experience of cooking it myself than sitting in a restaurant with people faffing around me. I just think people are more into staying home now. Don't want to dress up, or go bother with the hassle of traveling somewhere.

I do love a good food van that sells something different, but even they are even a lot of £ and again, some of it is really bad. When you're paying a lot it's just not worth the risk.

lydgjhsCSBCH · 15/06/2025 19:41

CrispEatingExpert · 15/06/2025 19:06

It’s definitely not 99% where I live. Most of our local independent pubs use meat from local farms, local bread and locally made ice cream. The ice cream can be brought directly from the dairy farm in a little hut next to the milking sheds and our local butchers rears and slaughters most of their own animals.

One local pub even offers free meals in exchange for locally grown produce and eggs.

I realise this probably isn’t the norm, but I really don’t think the number is as high a 99%.

Thank you! There are a lot of great restaurants out there who use local ingredients. They can't do it for Wetherspoons prices though.

Tagyoureit · 15/06/2025 19:43

We went out today and the food was good, Turkish, but the service was awful. Full 20 minutes before a drinks order was even taken, 45 minutes before the starters arrived and then when ordered desserts the waitress had the cheek to say we had half hour left on our booking. And one of the waiters absolutely stank of BO!

£283 bill.

Certainly wont be returning there!

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