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To pronounce this street correctly

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wherethestreetshaveasillyname · 04/06/2025 08:56

I just moved into small business premises locally and people have been asking for the address.

Now the street shares the name with a North American location that’s semi well-known in the UK - to avoid outing myself, let’s call it Illinois Street (it’s similar).

But every time I pronounce it (ill-ih-NOY street), I get blank looks. Then, when I describe the location, I get “ah you mean ill-ih-nwahh street!” and a raised ‘are you a bit stupid’ eyebrow.

What should I do?

A)keep saying it correctly

B) say it like everyone else seems to- but then look weird when I encounter someone who says it correctly

C) do as I am currently and long-windedly doing and say “oh it’s on Illinois Street, or, ill-i-nwa street as people seem to pronounce it round here.

(this is life-and-death and not at all lighthearted btw)

OP posts:
JollyRoseBiscuit · 04/06/2025 20:08

PickAChew · 04/06/2025 19:42

Cammus, apparently. I tend to forget, too.

That's boring, I'll stick to pretending I'm French and posh.... ha

Beautifulspringsunshine · 04/06/2025 20:25

You're pronouncing it wrong 🤷‍♀️

RyeGood · 04/06/2025 20:55

Not read the whole thread so apologies if another Sussex MNer has already said these, but ALWAYS GO WITH THE LOCALS!
Rye has a Cinque Port St (Sink, not the French sanke), and the landmark Ypres Tower (pronounced Wipers).
Nearby we have Udimore (yoody moor, not uddymore) and Herstmonceaux (Herst mon soo, not herst monux)

Tuebrook · 04/06/2025 21:21

But the OP is local and the customers might not be.

IfYouPutASausageInItItsNotAViennetta · 04/06/2025 22:19

PickAChew · 04/06/2025 19:42

Cammus, apparently. I tend to forget, too.

Easy thing to do if you're an outsider...

monkeysox · 04/06/2025 22:20

Chop Gate.

Pronounced.

Chop Yat. Ffs

Imisscoffee2021 · 04/06/2025 22:21

I'm from the North but lived in London for nearly 20 years, and loved on Alnwick Road for a while near Lewisham. Taxi drivers would never understand when I said it like it's meant to be "Anick", they'd go "Oh you mean AWLNWICK?" Aggressively pronouncing every letter, even the W 😆

Luddite26 · 05/06/2025 09:05

Spidey66 · 04/06/2025 08:59

There was a council estate near where I used to live with a block called Arkansas House. I bet that had similar problems.

I'm 53 and only last week made the link in my head that Arkansas is Bill Clinton's 'Arkansaw'.
So pleased with myself I keep saying it in my head. I did actually know this all along but the connection just didn't clicking my pronunciation!😄

StScholastica · 05/06/2025 09:20

Peover in Cheshire gets a lot of people!
Upper Peover, Lower Peover and even Peover Superior. 😁.

GizzyDillespie · 05/06/2025 11:45

I’ve always wanted to visit Woolfardisworthy.

U53rn8m3ch8ng3 · 05/06/2025 11:47

Spidey66 · 04/06/2025 08:59

There was a council estate near where I used to live with a block called Arkansas House. I bet that had similar problems.

I'm embarrassed to admit that only recently at aged 33 did I learn how to say Arkansas...🤣

IfYouPutASausageInItItsNotAViennetta · 05/06/2025 14:41

StScholastica · 05/06/2025 09:20

Peover in Cheshire gets a lot of people!
Upper Peover, Lower Peover and even Peover Superior. 😁.

Is there a local building company called Peover Walls?! Grin

BucketofTeaMassiveCake · 05/06/2025 16:33

If not already mentioned, in our neck of the woods we have Church Greasley (pronounced Grezz lee), Ilkeston (Ill kiss tun), Breaston (Bree stun), Eyam (Eem), Edensor (Ensa).

We also have the delightfully named Erewash Borough Council (pronounced Erry Wash, not ear wash).

Then there's Cator Lane (pronounced cay ta, not catta).

I mustn't forget Toton (Toe tun, not tott un).

BangersAndGnash · 05/06/2025 17:31

BucketofTeaMassiveCake · 05/06/2025 16:33

If not already mentioned, in our neck of the woods we have Church Greasley (pronounced Grezz lee), Ilkeston (Ill kiss tun), Breaston (Bree stun), Eyam (Eem), Edensor (Ensa).

We also have the delightfully named Erewash Borough Council (pronounced Erry Wash, not ear wash).

Then there's Cator Lane (pronounced cay ta, not catta).

I mustn't forget Toton (Toe tun, not tott un).

My Dad grew up in Ilkeston, and everyone local called it Ill’ston

Grammarninja · 05/06/2025 18:03

Stay true to the right way to say it! Don't conform. I still ask for a panino in a cafe and when they reply with 'a panini?' , I say, 'no, just the one'. Panini = plural, panino = one.

Chubbymummyof2 · 05/06/2025 18:05

BucketofTeaMassiveCake · 05/06/2025 16:33

If not already mentioned, in our neck of the woods we have Church Greasley (pronounced Grezz lee), Ilkeston (Ill kiss tun), Breaston (Bree stun), Eyam (Eem), Edensor (Ensa).

We also have the delightfully named Erewash Borough Council (pronounced Erry Wash, not ear wash).

Then there's Cator Lane (pronounced cay ta, not catta).

I mustn't forget Toton (Toe tun, not tott un).

I’m also from Derbyshire and know Erewash as e-ra-wash not erry-wash.

Youlgreave/Youlgrave is another place pronounced differently by different people and Rowsley is pronounced as row-s-lee (as in row row row the boat) by some and row-s-lee (as in having a row with someone) by others.

Another place is Rainworth in Mansfield, non-locals say it as it looks, locals say ren-uff.

OP I think it’s worth saying it the way locals say it and spell it for people who are not familiar with the street name.

Isinglass20 · 05/06/2025 18:08

How about Cholmondeley probably Norman pronounced Chumley

PeopleWillAlwaysNeedPlates · 05/06/2025 18:08

Grammarninja · 05/06/2025 18:03

Stay true to the right way to say it! Don't conform. I still ask for a panino in a cafe and when they reply with 'a panini?' , I say, 'no, just the one'. Panini = plural, panino = one.

I hope you are equally fastidious when talking about one broccolo or two pizze.

botchartistsunited · 05/06/2025 18:09

I reckon you’re in Theydon Bois!!!
I used to live close by and clearly, it’s a forest…so should be bois… the French for “wood”. Drove me to distraction that the locals called it “boys” . I did concede to the locals though because otherwise I just sounded like a pretentious arse 🤣.

Grammarninja · 05/06/2025 18:10

PeopleWillAlwaysNeedPlates · 05/06/2025 18:08

I hope you are equally fastidious when talking about one broccolo or two pizze.

Always! So glad I have a supporter!

YoNoHeSido77 · 05/06/2025 18:14

A couple of small villages near me are New Houghton and pleasley.

they are pronounced (new) huffun and plezlee. Also rainworth and Southwell are ren-uff and suvull.

locals know how things are pronounced and telling them that they are wrong will not go the way you want.

PickAChew · 05/06/2025 18:18

YoNoHeSido77 · 05/06/2025 18:14

A couple of small villages near me are New Houghton and pleasley.

they are pronounced (new) huffun and plezlee. Also rainworth and Southwell are ren-uff and suvull.

locals know how things are pronounced and telling them that they are wrong will not go the way you want.

Yet Houghton le Spring is pronounced either hor-ton or, more usually, hoe-ton, depending on who you're asking. The nearby hamlet of Houghall rhymes with offal, though!

sixtiesbaby88 · 05/06/2025 19:17

I grew up in Styvechale, also written and known as Stivichall…..pronounced Stychel

ThePenguinIsDrunk · 05/06/2025 19:26

MNersSufferFromContextomy · 04/06/2025 10:30

LOL, I feel your pain OP!!! Yes, you tend to need to pronounce it like the locals otherwise you sound to everyone like you're stupid/ignorant. It's like this all over the UK, everywhere.

I speak to people all over the country as part of my job and have made quite a few people laugh at me for either being "stupid", ignorant, sounding like a tourist or simply not knowing the area I am supposed to be talking about / living in.

A couple of examples just from the top of my head:

Bicester near Oxford is pronounced "Bister".
Alwick near Newcastle is pronounced "Anook".
Wrotham Heath in Kent seems to be pronouced "Ruttam" Heath.
Locals in Redcar often pronouce it "Reh-kah", but I think those people are just uneducated as others in the nearby areas pronounce it as it sounds (they tend to be posher, lol).

Wrotham Heath (and Wrotham village itself) are pronounced Roo-tam, my favourites near there are also Meopham (Meh-pam) and Trottiscliffe (Trosley), in fact the country park is spelled phonetically because visitors to the area were often told by locals that they'd never heard of trot-iss-cliff.

Birthdaypartydilemma · 05/06/2025 20:05

Des Moines by any chance? A lot of people have issues with that name and I rarely hear it pronounced correctly!