If you add random extra letters into a name, don't be pissy when people mispronounce it!

[BoobsOnTheMoon]

I met someone recently who has a young child with a name that is actually quite a old/traditional English name, rare but not unheard of. Almost the perfect sweet spot, you'd think.

When I heard the name I immediately said oh how beautiful, I love that name. Which then set the mum off on a big rant about how nobody can ever pronounce it. Strange, I thought, it's not that unusual and tbh it's pretty phonetic when written down.

Except I found out later via FB that the mum has added two letters to the name (a consonant and a vowel), in two different places, that make it look like you pronounce it completely differently to the way she wants it pronounced. It's not an alternative spelling (which the name does have a couple of, both of which are completely obvious how to pronounce). If you were to see it written down you'd add an extra syllable when reading it out! And probably mispronounce the one of the consonants because it's had a random other consonant put next to it for...no reason? She must just like how it looks

I can't say what the name is because this child is literally the only person in the world with the name spelled that way, I've googled it and got the total of 2 results (both of which refer to this child, via their hobby). The closest examples I can come up with would be calling a baby Phetier when you want it pronounced Peter, or Elixzabieth but wanting it pronounced Elizabeth, or Dharrien and expecting everyone to know you say it Darren.

Anyway I don't particularly care how people spell names but to then be huffy that it gets mispronounced is just silly, right?

Patricia is Pa-tree-sia (roughly) in lots of languages.

Eghllieegh
Aighvarghh
Ammeleighiargh
Izsabeghllarh

I know someone whose daughter has that same pronunciation, with the emphasis on the ‘lee’.

I'll back you. Sound plan!

I know a girl whose name is ivy but she pronounces it as eh-Vee-ya

Emaileh

I say 'Parizian'. I thought Marcia was pronounced as it is spelled - I don't much like Marsha!

I prefer Marcia to Marsha too but I can’t think of anyone who is called that pronunciation. I can't think of anyone called Marcia no matter how it’s pronounced.

I knew a Hannagh and an Issac years ago. I don’t know if these spellings are more well-known in other countries.

I don't remember asking anyone called ClareDeLaLune for their opinion when I named my daughter Eirlysiane. But I'll tell you what the fuck anyway - not that I should have to. I just like the name. Me, the person who actually gave birth to her and has raised her, so I kind of get that decision by default really. It has family meaning for us too, which is absolutely none of your business, incidentally. I never, ever complain about anyone mispronouncing it, I accept and know that this will happen but that it's also possible to move on quickly. And do you know what? Most people can remember how to say it after the first few attempts, so no big deal. There are almost 30 million first names used across the world - I wonder just how many of those you wouldn't approve of? But what's the point of criticising someone else's name? It says more about you than them. Attitudes such as judgmental narrow-mindedness, however... they're definitely worth criticising, always. 😘

Ptameigh for Tammie?

Thread is about people who complain about mispronunciation, which you say you don't do, so clearly doesn't apply to you.

Hannagh 🙄 that’s dreadful - part of the beauty of the name is that it’s a palindrome!

Took me a minute.

They're not pet names.

The forms without the ellipsis (h) are the nominative case. This is the form you use when writing the name or using the name as the subject of a sentence.

The forms with the ellipsis are the vocative case. This is the form of the name used when addressing Mairi or Seamus.

Gaelic and its cousin, Gaeilge (Irish) feature changes to all nouns depending on case - nominative, vocative, possessive, etc.

Using the vocative as the nominative is all wrong.

It's patrisha in English.

I once heard about a child called Car-ian. It was pronounced Kardashian.

My kids also used to go swimming with a boy called Levii.

Yes. That doesn’t make it the only ‘proper’ way to pronounce it though. See the post I was replying to.

It's your child that has to live with the name though which is surely something that should be carefully considered before you give them a name that nobody is going to know how to pronounce.

I hadn't heard this version of that old urban myth. Normally it's La-a, Ladasha.

Don't believe any old shite people tell you

Really? Wow, thanks for explaining that to me. 🙄

Name the name! Is it myaryi

You’re right, I don’t, but the post that I was responding to was an extremely rude and unnecessary judgement of my daughter’s unusual (to English culture anyway) name. New to mumsnet, didn’t realise that you have to quote the post which you’re responding to. I now remember why I have avoided becoming part of this mumsnet ‘community’. It’s a bit too negative for my liking!