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Not paying for garden work

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gardendramas5 · 16/05/2025 09:24

I’m pretty sure I’m not being unreasonable but I just want to see what other people think.

I purchased my house December last year. It was empty for at least 2 years (ex rental)

The previous owners kept the front and back garden tidy whilst it was on the market, no idea if it was them that did the work or if they paid someone. Both gardens are quite large. I started doing all of this myself when I took ownership.

Anyway, I’ve been away for the last week with family and came home on Wednesday to freshly cut grass, weeds pulled etc. I asked my neighbours if they had seen anyone but they were at work. It turns out that the previous owners hired a company to do the work and hadn’t notified them that they’d sold the house last year. I only found this out yesterday as the gardener turned up with the invoice. I explained I wasn’t aware of this arrangement and that he would have to invoice the previous owners for the work (I was polite and apologised for the inconvenience but made it clear I hadn’t asked for this work to be done and wasn’t prepared to pay for it either)

He knocked on again this morning and explained that he’d spoken to them yesterday and that they agreed to pay half (because it was their error) but that I should pay the rest because I’m the one benefiting from the work. I told him no sorry I’m not paying and he needs to take it up with them.

I do feel bad for the gardener, but it’s their fault. I didn't ask for this. They were awkward during the conveyancing process too so this doesn’t surprise me. AIBU?

OP posts:
Pomonafluff · 19/05/2025 19:56

Reliablesource · 19/05/2025 09:51

How much is the bill? I think you should pay half. You have benefitted in so far as he has saved you doing it yourself for a while and pulling weeds etc is no fun!

The previous owners are totally in the wrong and it’s cheeky of them to only offer to pay half the bill, but you haven’t really got any redress against them.

If you refuse to pay, the only person who loses out is the gardener who has done the hard work in good faith and through no fault of his own. I would suck it up, pay half and enjoy your neat and tidy garden with your feet up, as you can leave it for a couple of weeks now!

Ah another voice of reason, and decency. Unfortunately some of us are peeing in the wind. I loved the comment about the gardener being a trespasser. Presumably he should have had the dogs set on him.

Pomonafluff · 19/05/2025 20:01

AthWat · 19/05/2025 19:52

And? What are you implying that the OP is hiding from us?

Well possibly nothing, but there was an inkling of a little bit of historical annoyance. Apparently the old owners were a bit awkward over the conveyancing. It's still bothering her two years later. So what do you think ? . . . . .

AthWat · 19/05/2025 20:09

Pomonafluff · 19/05/2025 20:01

Well possibly nothing, but there was an inkling of a little bit of historical annoyance. Apparently the old owners were a bit awkward over the conveyancing. It's still bothering her two years later. So what do you think ? . . . . .

What do you think? You think she has somehow engineered a situation where she's being asked to pay half of a bill the old owners owe because she resents them over the conveyancing?

Whatever you're taking, stop taking it.

Pomonafluff · 19/05/2025 20:09

Well going to a civil court with such a silly claim would get you a penny in damages and a flea in your ear from the Judge. I have advised clients against such high handed sentiments in the past. Usually what then happens is they are made to pay their own costs, and they're out of pocket due to a bout of self aggrandisement.

AthWat · 19/05/2025 20:09

Pomonafluff · 19/05/2025 20:01

Well possibly nothing, but there was an inkling of a little bit of historical annoyance. Apparently the old owners were a bit awkward over the conveyancing. It's still bothering her two years later. So what do you think ? . . . . .

Honestly, are you just playing a game where you try to get people to call you stupid so you can report their posts? Is that the whole point of this?

AthWat · 19/05/2025 20:10

Pomonafluff · 19/05/2025 20:09

Well going to a civil court with such a silly claim would get you a penny in damages and a flea in your ear from the Judge. I have advised clients against such high handed sentiments in the past. Usually what then happens is they are made to pay their own costs, and they're out of pocket due to a bout of self aggrandisement.

You think if the gardener went to court to get the previous owner to pay money he was contractually owed he'd be laughed at? What are you talking about?

Pomonafluff · 19/05/2025 20:12

TheHerboriste · 18/05/2025 00:49

Wrong.

Expecting a victim of trespassing and grifting to be grateful for the “benefit” is absurd.

The victim ? Lol modern snow flakes.

Pomonafluff · 19/05/2025 20:14

TheHerboriste · 18/05/2025 00:55

Technicality? What the fuck?

So if a window washer rocks up, sprays your windows and then presents you with a bill, you’d pay it? What if a former house cleaner had a key to OP’s home and dropped in for a session? Or a painter decided to do her fence or garden shed ? Are you saying she should be grateful and pay them too?

How weak and silly to suggest this is anything but the former owner’s problem.

Ah decency as a weakness. Come on Vlad, we know it's you.

Pomonafluff · 19/05/2025 20:16

TheHerboriste · 18/05/2025 00:57

What utter hogwash. The former owners are trying to foist the cost of their error onto a totally innocent party.

This is between them and the gardener, who should consider himself lucky he isn’t being sued for trespass and damage.

Bull shit. The claimant would get a penny in damages, and told in the best English what a pathetic twat they were, by the judge.

Another2Cats · 19/05/2025 20:39

Pomonafluff · 19/05/2025 20:16

Bull shit. The claimant would get a penny in damages, and told in the best English what a pathetic twat they were, by the judge.

You really are an obvious troll, but I'll bite. I have nothing better to do at the moment, I've just had a nice dinner and a couple of glasses of wine.

You are quite correct that a person, in most cases, cannot be "sued for trespass" and certainly not in this situation.

"... and damage."

This, however, is a whole other area.

Another poster on this thread mentioned that a gardener she employed dug up all her daffodils and dumped them in the dustbin without her permission.

If you damage somebody else's property then they will (generally speaking) have a claim against you.

ps. You say "The claimant would get a penny in damages". I'm not too sure from this that you are saying that they would get damages or you are perhaps American and using the typical American usage of the word "would" when people in the UK would use the word "wouldn't".

I remember a youtube video on this topic (well, actually "could" and "couldn't") from David Mitchell some time ago:

- YouTube

Enjoy the videos and music that you love, upload original content and share it all with friends, family and the world on YouTube.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=om7O0MFkmpw

Pomonafluff · 19/05/2025 20:56

AthWat · 19/05/2025 11:44

It's something that the aristocracy might have used up to the early 20th century and it doesn't mean your upbringing, it means you come from the right stock. In the modern world nobody would use it except someone who thinks upper class people still talk like that and is trying to mimic them, badly (or, I suppose, someone who simply doesn't know what it means).

It may well have been what people ( not just the aristocracy) used in yesteryear, and has been appropriated for use these days as an act of mischief . Tongue in cheek if you like. I'm well aware titled folks may not mean it in all seriousness.

AthWat · 19/05/2025 20:59

Pomonafluff · 19/05/2025 20:56

It may well have been what people ( not just the aristocracy) used in yesteryear, and has been appropriated for use these days as an act of mischief . Tongue in cheek if you like. I'm well aware titled folks may not mean it in all seriousness.

Find something better to do with your time .

RawBloomers · 19/05/2025 21:10

Pomonafluff · 19/05/2025 20:09

Well going to a civil court with such a silly claim would get you a penny in damages and a flea in your ear from the Judge. I have advised clients against such high handed sentiments in the past. Usually what then happens is they are made to pay their own costs, and they're out of pocket due to a bout of self aggrandisement.

You advise people on their chances of winning civil claims in court? In what circumstances?

SwingTheMonkey · 19/05/2025 21:22

Pomonafluff · 19/05/2025 19:53

Yes it is.

Having to pay anything for a service you didn’t ask for or want, isn’t a good deal. I’m with the others - you’re trolling.

AliBaliBee1234 · 19/05/2025 22:20

Not sure why others are suggesting you should pay half for something you didn't ask for at all ... the previous owners had the agreement and are fully responsible.

Pomonafluff · 20/05/2025 07:57

SwingTheMonkey · 19/05/2025 21:22

Having to pay anything for a service you didn’t ask for or want, isn’t a good deal. I’m with the others - you’re trolling.

Your a big baby.

SwingTheMonkey · 20/05/2025 07:59

Pomonafluff · 20/05/2025 07:57

Your a big baby.

I rest my case.

Blackdow · 20/05/2025 09:12

Pomonafluff · 20/05/2025 07:57

Your a big baby.

*You’re
You are = you’re

If you’re going to insult a stranger on then internet then at least get it right.

Pomonafluff · 20/05/2025 10:22

SwingTheMonkey · 20/05/2025 07:59

I rest my case.

Me too

Pomonafluff · 20/05/2025 21:47

TheHerboriste · 19/05/2025 00:23

I can’t believe anyone is this obtuse, ignorant and dim.

I own three lawn mowers and a large shed full of tools.

Nevertheless my front and rear garden are unmowed and un “weeded” because that is how I, the actual property owner, prefer it to be at this time of year. Strongly prefer.

Any trespassing arsehole who thought they were doing me a favour by vandalizing my garden would be fortunate to escape without a costly lawsuit.

And that rant wasn't the slightest bit ignorant, obtuse or dim . There you go the lowestform of wit, especially for you. The thread isn't about your fetish for an au natural garden . What would be dim not to mention pathetic, would be to sue someone over it. That'll cost you money, and you'd get jack out of it, apart from being made to feel like a complete plank by the judge.

Pomonafluff · 20/05/2025 21:51

Blackdow · 20/05/2025 09:12

*You’re
You are = you’re

If you’re going to insult a stranger on then internet then at least get it right.

Big deal, you spotted a typo. Get over yourself mom .

Pomonafluff · 20/05/2025 21:55

Pomonafluff · 20/05/2025 10:22

Me too

harvestqueen · 21/05/2025 00:45

Pomonafluff · 19/05/2025 20:01

Well possibly nothing, but there was an inkling of a little bit of historical annoyance. Apparently the old owners were a bit awkward over the conveyancing. It's still bothering her two years later. So what do you think ? . . . . .

At least read the OP correctly. The house has been vacant for two years. The OP bought it in December last year.

TicklishBeaker · 21/05/2025 08:51

gardendramas5 · 16/05/2025 09:24

I’m pretty sure I’m not being unreasonable but I just want to see what other people think.

I purchased my house December last year. It was empty for at least 2 years (ex rental)

The previous owners kept the front and back garden tidy whilst it was on the market, no idea if it was them that did the work or if they paid someone. Both gardens are quite large. I started doing all of this myself when I took ownership.

Anyway, I’ve been away for the last week with family and came home on Wednesday to freshly cut grass, weeds pulled etc. I asked my neighbours if they had seen anyone but they were at work. It turns out that the previous owners hired a company to do the work and hadn’t notified them that they’d sold the house last year. I only found this out yesterday as the gardener turned up with the invoice. I explained I wasn’t aware of this arrangement and that he would have to invoice the previous owners for the work (I was polite and apologised for the inconvenience but made it clear I hadn’t asked for this work to be done and wasn’t prepared to pay for it either)

He knocked on again this morning and explained that he’d spoken to them yesterday and that they agreed to pay half (because it was their error) but that I should pay the rest because I’m the one benefiting from the work. I told him no sorry I’m not paying and he needs to take it up with them.

I do feel bad for the gardener, but it’s their fault. I didn't ask for this. They were awkward during the conveyancing process too so this doesn’t surprise me. AIBU?

I wonder why the gardener had not been during the house sale period? Bit strange they turn up now. Unless of course they only used to come a couple of times a year.

Pomonafluff · 21/05/2025 10:06

harvestqueen · 21/05/2025 00:45

At least read the OP correctly. The house has been vacant for two years. The OP bought it in December last year.

Not sure what the reply is in aide of. I did read the OP correctly. What's your point.

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