The Enfield haunting was real.

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I’m watching The Enfield Poltergeist, probably the most famous ghost story in England.
The two sisters both give interviews and still seem deeply troubled by what happened, what are people’s thoughts?
And does anyone want to share their own spooky experiences. I’ll go first,

When my son was three I caught him chatting to himself in my hallway, he told me he was talking to a sad little girl who had lost her way in and was stuck.
He’d come into my room at night and tell me she’d woken him up by playing with his toys.
I was home alone one night, I got up to get a glass of water and was walking back to the bedroom and the hallway light turned off and the kitchen radio turned on.. full sodding blast, I was terrified!
I also come home one day to find the oven door open and all of the oven trays on the floor.
Another day I come home to my cat with its fur all puffed up, growling at the wall like the dog in The Poltergeist movie. Nothing else like this has happened since moving out of that house.

There are very obvious explanations for this ‘haunting’, just as there were for Danny Robbins’ ‘Battersea Poltergeist’ and ‘The Witch Farm’ — all of them firmly embedded in human psychology. You’ll note that in both Enfield and Battersea, a young girl in a family with complex or troubled dynamics is being given fascinated attention by a kindly uncle-ish investigator.

Of course it wasn’t real. There’s always an explanation. Only people that believe silly ghost stories are taken in.

Some people will believe any old shite.

I saw that programme, and didn't come away with any sense of real supernatural activity. The cheese in the fridge, though, is a phenomenon I'm only too familiar with. It's mostly food or remote controls that disappear then re-materialise exactly where you've been searching, but any interesting object small enough to be transferred temporarily to another dimension will do.

@Limprichteabiscuit - that sounds like a classic sleep paralysis experience, possibly influenced by the surroundings. Sleep paralysis is most likely to happen when you lie on your back and can be incredibly vivid. I'm not dismissing it though - I do believe in ghosts and have had some strange experiences.

She took a photo of her jumping off the bed and talking in a creepy low voice it was deffo fake

We were quite good at science in the 60s and 70s, you know! 🤣🤣

Anyone who thinks ghosts are a thing or that the dead are somehow with us, needs their bumps reading. I know a good phrenologist!
Such nonsense
Such gullibility that people can take advantage of

I don’t believe it was real and photo looks very staged, however I love a spooky story!
I don’t have any myself unfortunately!
@Bridestone what are your thoughts on the Battersea poltergeist and the witch farm? I enjoyed BP but thought the witch farm was easily explained….just isolation and sleep deprivation, plus didn’t the husband drink quite a lot or am I remembering that wrong? Loved BP though and will have to listen to it again! I love Danny Robbins uncanny too although I am more of a sceptic.

'Twas not 😄

I will admit that the only thing I’ve watched relating to this is the Enfield Poltergeist drama on Apple but I didn’t believe any of it whereas I think DH did, or was at least open to the possibility.

It’s a bit much to insult people given that the global majority believe in some sort of supernatural/spiritual entities, it’s been an intrinsic part of human culture since forever.

That's the one! It's a briliant read. Him on the set of Most Haunted is hilarious.

But how do you explain the voice she used when they made her hold water in her mouth and then taped it up?

I thought the ‘Witch Farm’ was largely explained by the husband’s almost unmentioned alcoholism and obvious MH issues, plus their isolation, electrical faults, and a couple of nasty pranks from hostile neighbours. I imagine he pissed people off a lot sounding off in the pub. He was clearly a disturbed, angry and suggestible individual, particularly if, at the suggestion of a random, he sent his teenage son to live elsewhere on the suggestion he was the one ‘activating’ the poltergeist. I think the thing ‘haunting’ his house was chiefly his moods and drinking.

The Battersea scenario I think was fairly obviously the creation of the two YA children of the household, who may or may not have been collaborating — the ‘poltergeist’s’ preoccupations, including attacking the grandmother who had wronged the adopted son of the household (whose origins are never fully explained), getting the teenage daughter who wanted freedom, boyfriends and art college, not an overcrowded home and a dreary alterations job in Selfridges, fired, attention from a kindly uncle figure in the shape of the obsessive Harold Chibbert, the poltergeist’s obsession with Shirley’s favourite filmstar, the fact that the handwriting expert testified to the ‘poltergeist’’s’ handwriting being Shirley’s etc.

I know, but the fact that a whole newspaper serial and other media attentions could run with 'poltergeist' says a lot for what the public would swallow at that time

It wouldnt happen now. Why?

Its not about whether science exists at a time or not, its what societal beliefs are for behavioural explanations. I dont know if the children were ND, or had been abused or any number of reasons why they would have behaved like that. Today those are the explorations that would take place rather than feeling the house was possessed. In 50 years time it will be something else, another diagnosis or condition that replaces those explanations.

Haven’t listened to the Battersea Poltergeist yet, but you’re bang on about Witch Farm. An alcoholic artistic type who pissed off his neighbours FGS. I bet the teenage son was delighted to leave.
There was an “incident” where a piano was making sounds by itself that was never mentioned again. It obviously had mice, rats or a bird inside it.

Don’t think anyone has mentioned it, but the film “The Conjuring 2” is all about the Enfield Poltergeist. Two American ghost hunters come over to investigate!