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Nut allergy on plane

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HomeCookingWannabe · 07/03/2025 22:38

I've been on a plane today. At the airport I bought Pret's choc almond cookie as a treat. We get on the plane and they say don't eat anything with nuts in as someone severely allergic.

So I didn't, because i'm not a dk and I want to keep someone alive.

But if said allergy person is worried about airborne transmission, surely the cookie sitting there for the 4 hour flight is worse than if i'd eaten it and it was in my tummy? It doesn't seem to make sense to me.

AIBU in thinking it's a load of nonsense?

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HomeCookingWannabe · 08/03/2025 07:20

@iolaus Yes, this! I paid £3.50 for a fresh warm cookie from Pret as a treat. As I say, 100% get the importance of not eating it, but I was miffed not to have been told earlier.

Anyway, this thread has been useful, thanks all

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ruffler45 · 08/03/2025 07:39

Been on a flight last year where the staff refused to sell nuts due to someone on the flight with an allergy, depends on the risk of transmission (and who is best to assess it? you?) and the need to do a forced landing to get medical help and all the time and cost involved in that . Do you and your cookie want to be responsible?

HomeCookingWannabe · 08/03/2025 07:41

@ruffler45 Think you've misunderstood the post. My question was not whether my needs are greater than theirs, it was whether leaving the product still on the flight and open to the air was safer than eating it. Others have kindly already answered that.

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ThriveIn2025 · 08/03/2025 07:43

HomeCookingWannabe · 08/03/2025 07:04

Sorry this is my fault for assuming everyone is familiar with Pret. They just put the cookie in a paper bag and fold the top over. It definitely isn't "sealed". I put it in another bag to try and reduce further

This is very considerate and over and above what most people would do.

I know from previous flights not to buy anything with nuts for a plane journey as some else mentioned, this is so common now.

Hope you managed to get a treat on the flight (although extortionately priced)!

HomeCookingWannabe · 08/03/2025 07:44

@ThriveIn2025 I didn't knowingly buy a nut item, I only saw the "double chocolate" lol, it was only when the announcement came on i thought that I'd vaguely seen "& almond" on the sign. But you're right, it's given me pause for thought next time

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OldGothsFadeToGrey · 08/03/2025 07:54

HomeCookingWannabe · 07/03/2025 22:38

I've been on a plane today. At the airport I bought Pret's choc almond cookie as a treat. We get on the plane and they say don't eat anything with nuts in as someone severely allergic.

So I didn't, because i'm not a dk and I want to keep someone alive.

But if said allergy person is worried about airborne transmission, surely the cookie sitting there for the 4 hour flight is worse than if i'd eaten it and it was in my tummy? It doesn't seem to make sense to me.

AIBU in thinking it's a load of nonsense?

Thanks for not eating!

I have a nut allergy child, and when we fly people are asked not to consume nuts. When they asked on our flight the first thing the woman opposite did was open her nut bar. Arsehole. Lucking not the ones my kid is allergic to but some people are selfish arseholes. His allergy isn’t airborne, but on the off chance someone eats nuts, gets it in their hands, goes to the loo, touches other seats, which leaves tiny nut particles on the surface of something which he then touches, touches his face or mouth, and then has an allergic reaction - well then that plane will be making an emergency landing and hopefully he won’t die as a result because
EpiPens only buy enough time to get to a hospital.

Asking people not to eat nuts on the plane is the best precaution against this. It’s not a big ask - Please don’t eat nuts for the few hours where everyone is trapped in a tiny sealed tube with no ambulance service. And yes this can happen in every day life, however unlucky he would be for this to happen, but the risk on an aeroplane is higher due to it being a tiny tube where it’s hard to move about without touching everything.

And yes I get that people are allergic to cheese, fish, spam, etc (I’m allergic to tomatoes) but that’s not a reason for people to keep eating nuts on flights when they’ve been asked not to because of a passenger with a potentially fatal allergy.

Neemie · 08/03/2025 07:56

If I had a severe allergy, I would never trust the general public on this. It isn’t malicious, it’s just that people forget that certain things have nuts in them. Almond croissants and chocolate hazelnut products are always around at my ‘nut free’ work place.

GCAcademic · 08/03/2025 07:58

I did think nuts were banned from aeroplanes and schools entirely. Is that not the case?

No. And I took two flights this week where nuts were given out as snacks.

boatyardblues · 08/03/2025 07:58

BigMoonRising · 08/03/2025 02:13

God, nut allergies are so common now. If my children had been allergic to nuts I think it would have been very stressful.

I did think nuts were banned from aeroplanes and schools entirely. Is that not the case?

I’ve had an anaphylactic reaction to aspirin, also something we can’t identify, mangoes give me an itchy mouth and itchy back of throat, so I avoid them. I’m just starting to eat nuts after years of avoidance because I became so frightened of anaphylaxis (and because there’s something I’m anaphylactic to and we don’t know what) and also because post menopause hazel nuts trigger burning mouth syndrome (which is not an allergy but it’s freaked me a bit). Swimming in cold water can give me hives as can regular prolonged heat and sweating from exercise. Some days I just have hives for no discernible reason. I live for the day when there’s a vaccine or something to stop the allergy response. What are the chances of that?

I have other health challenges but the allergies are the most frightening. (Probably because anaphylaxis is fucking awful and sudden). Everything else I can take in my stride.

Mangoes are botanically related to cashews. I read they can trigger a reaction in people with cashew sensitivity.

Username12284949 · 08/03/2025 08:04

roselilylavender · 08/03/2025 01:12

I was on a flight recently when they announced it and DD and I had just both finished eating snacks that contained nuts. We pressed the call button and told cabin crew who then told the family. I was feeling so awkward as I presumed that we had ruined their holiday as they would need to disembark and that we would delay the flight as their cases would need to be removed but they just stayed on the plane. On a flight since then, the announcement wasn't until we'd taken off and someone else had to confess that they had eaten something. I don't understand why they don't announce this when waiting to board.

I was on a flight last year where they announced someone on the flight had a nut allergy but this was announced while people were still taking their seats and putting away hand and everything was a bit noisy. I remember thinking there’s no way everyone heard that but I was so glad I did as my children had Nutella snacks with them. I couldn’t stop thinking that the announcement should have been made a lot more loudly and clear as I am certain there would have been a lot of people that were focussed on other things that wouldn’t have heard the muffled announcement.

OldGothsFadeToGrey · 08/03/2025 08:06

boatyardblues · 08/03/2025 07:58

Mangoes are botanically related to cashews. I read they can trigger a reaction in people with cashew sensitivity.

So are pistachio and pink peppercorn. Also cross reactive with cashew, but not as often as pistachio which is from the same family: hazelnut, Brazil nut and almond. My child is fine with mangoes but allergic to pistachio. He can eat other nuts and we have to make sure he eats them regularly to prevent allergies forming

Flossflower · 08/03/2025 08:07

At least you took responsibility. I was on a flight once and people were asked not to ear nuts. The couple in front of us complained and asked where the person with the nut allergy was. They were told quite close. They had planned to eat a giant toblerone between them on the flight home. They really didn’t need it.

Jewel1968 · 08/03/2025 08:15

One of my DC is highly allergic to multiple foods (not nuts funnily enough). The reaction is speedy and dramatic. It's not really possible to control an environment to the extent he needs.

Do planes carry epipens in their first aid?

notimagain · 08/03/2025 08:15

@User746353

Could the allergen rule in airplanes be more about legal liability? Maybe different laws apply to accidental death or injury on planes and the airlines just need to cover their asses.

AFAIK there isn’t an “allergen rule”, airlines tend to have their own individual policies which often make the point that they can’t guarantee a nut free cabin environment for all sorts of reasons from chances of cross contamination at catering facilities right through to the chances of surface contamination due previous occupants.

Also if you listen carefully to the cabin crew announcement at many airlines (if one is made) it is often only a strong suggestion to other passengers that they shouldn’t eat nut products and make passengers aware there is somebody with a food allergen on board, it’s often not an announcement of a total ban.

BigMoonRising · 08/03/2025 08:15

OldGothsFadeToGrey · 08/03/2025 08:06

So are pistachio and pink peppercorn. Also cross reactive with cashew, but not as often as pistachio which is from the same family: hazelnut, Brazil nut and almond. My child is fine with mangoes but allergic to pistachio. He can eat other nuts and we have to make sure he eats them regularly to prevent allergies forming

Thanks to both of you for this info. I’ve reintroduced pistachio and cashew so thankfully no problem there - just mangoes.

TortolaParadise · 08/03/2025 08:20

Adventitiouslungsounds · 07/03/2025 22:58

I feel like the whole nut free thing on a plane is a bit of a false economy.

Who is to say that the person sitting in your seat on the previous flight, didn't have a peanut butter sandwich. Those planes aren't cleaned and sanitised anywhere near enough in-between flights to reduce the risk of contamination.

Yes. I have found used tissues and empty snack wrappers around my plane seat. Sanitation appears to be unimportant for some airlines.

Whyherewego · 08/03/2025 08:22

OldGothsFadeToGrey · 08/03/2025 07:54

Thanks for not eating!

I have a nut allergy child, and when we fly people are asked not to consume nuts. When they asked on our flight the first thing the woman opposite did was open her nut bar. Arsehole. Lucking not the ones my kid is allergic to but some people are selfish arseholes. His allergy isn’t airborne, but on the off chance someone eats nuts, gets it in their hands, goes to the loo, touches other seats, which leaves tiny nut particles on the surface of something which he then touches, touches his face or mouth, and then has an allergic reaction - well then that plane will be making an emergency landing and hopefully he won’t die as a result because
EpiPens only buy enough time to get to a hospital.

Asking people not to eat nuts on the plane is the best precaution against this. It’s not a big ask - Please don’t eat nuts for the few hours where everyone is trapped in a tiny sealed tube with no ambulance service. And yes this can happen in every day life, however unlucky he would be for this to happen, but the risk on an aeroplane is higher due to it being a tiny tube where it’s hard to move about without touching everything.

And yes I get that people are allergic to cheese, fish, spam, etc (I’m allergic to tomatoes) but that’s not a reason for people to keep eating nuts on flights when they’ve been asked not to because of a passenger with a potentially fatal allergy.

Edited

This is actually the best explanation I've seen of the reason and now makes sense to me. If we eat the nut product and then touch the toilet door and transfer particles and the allergic person then touches it, they can get the particles from that.
Thank you genuinely for explaining ! I get why they say it now

Overthebow · 08/03/2025 08:25

They really need to tell people at check in (maybe an alert on the app?). Telling people on the plane is too late. Many will have already bought snacks or meals to eat on the plane and lots will still eat these anyway as no good or cheap food options on many flights, and some won’t hear or properly register the announcement as lots of other noises and things going on around them (this would be me as I have AuDHD) so won’t even realise.

TortolaParadise · 08/03/2025 08:27

Also if you are not impacted by nuts, you may be unaware that a product even contains nuts as your health doesn't require ingredients to be checked,

BigMoonRising · 08/03/2025 08:28

TortolaParadise · 08/03/2025 08:20

Yes. I have found used tissues and empty snack wrappers around my plane seat. Sanitation appears to be unimportant for some airlines.

Absolutely. I guess it’s a result of cheaper flights. But public buses are cleaner now.

I’ve never been in business or first so perhaps it is cleaner up the front of the plane.

OldGothsFadeToGrey · 08/03/2025 08:28

Whyherewego · 08/03/2025 08:22

This is actually the best explanation I've seen of the reason and now makes sense to me. If we eat the nut product and then touch the toilet door and transfer particles and the allergic person then touches it, they can get the particles from that.
Thank you genuinely for explaining ! I get why they say it now

We are also often allowed to board first if I ask so I can wipe down our seats and tables.

Ionut · 08/03/2025 08:28

I just eat the nuts.

Overthebow · 08/03/2025 08:30

TortolaParadise · 08/03/2025 08:27

Also if you are not impacted by nuts, you may be unaware that a product even contains nuts as your health doesn't require ingredients to be checked,

Edited

Yes this too, if there’s no need most people don’t read the ingredients list and wouldn’t think to.

MajorCarolDanvers · 08/03/2025 08:36

BigMoonRising · 08/03/2025 08:28

Absolutely. I guess it’s a result of cheaper flights. But public buses are cleaner now.

I’ve never been in business or first so perhaps it is cleaner up the front of the plane.

I travelled in business last week.

i lost my hearing aid in the chair and they took they whole thing apart.

they found someone else’s glasses, several spoons and a lot of sweetie wrappers and tissues.

not my hearing unfortunately

they are only surface clean

RedHot2025 · 08/03/2025 08:36

User746353 · 08/03/2025 00:04

Has there ever been a documented case of a fatal allergic reaction purely due to airborne particles? Virtually every news article only seems to mention the allergic person being given falsely labelled food (like that poor girl with the Pret sandwich) or some other situation where they actually came into direct contact with the allergen.

Surely the statistical chances of coming into contact with airborne nut particles is exactly the same as on a bus, a train, in a restaurant, cafe, classroom etc as a plane? There will always be strangers eating random foods, possibly with nuts, in public places. If someone is so allergic that they might die while being in the same enclosed space as some else eating an allergen, then why does that rule not apply to other far smaller spaces like a train carriage?

Could the allergen rule in airplanes be more about legal liability? Maybe different laws apply to accidental death or injury on planes and the airlines just need to cover their asses.

"Is contact through touch or smell a risk?
People with peanut and allergy often worry that touching or smelling nuts could cause a serious reaction, but research suggests this is not common.

One small study showed that when 30 children with serious peanut allergy had contact with peanut butter through touch or smell, none of them experienced anaphylaxis and none reacted to smell. A third had a mild reaction to touch including redness, itching or rash in a small area, but these were not serious, and no medication was needed. The researchers concluded that at least nine out of ten children with similar allergies would not have a serious reaction to touch or smell, but the study only looked at peanut butter, not other forms of peanut.

In another study, 84 children were positioned half a meter away from a bowl of peanuts for half an hour and none of them had a moderate or serious reaction. The researchers also collected peanut proteins from the air and the amounts of peanut protein were so small they were very unlikely to be able to cause moderate or serious allergic reactions. These studies only looked at peanuts, but there is no reason to think that tree nuts would be any different."

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