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To retrain as a teacher at (just turned) 50?

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MyPearlCrow · 14/02/2025 08:47

Just that really. I was a solicitor/partner in a law firm for my first career but burned out /got bored and cynical, so gave it up. luckily we can afford for me not to work which I realise is such a privilege.

I volunteer in a primary school now several days a week and essentially do an unpaid TA role. Here, TAs here are essentially teachers without all the planning/prep/responsibility, as in they actively teach the curriculum to small groups of children. They are highly skilled.

I have considered being a TA. I have been offered a paid role at my current school. But I’m still considering my options and it’s desperately badly paid. And all the TAs here are technically over qualified (all degree educated, or ex teachers, but don’t want the ridiculous workload of a teacher; entry requirement for TA role in England is just passes in gcse English maths and science) but they are paid peanuts. But it’s such a rewarding role and I love it. I think I could really add value.

Complete honesty here: I also realise that I’m used to running the show, in my old job. I suspect that in time I would want to make my own decisions on how to deal with my class, rather than carry out someone else’s instructions. I can already see ways I would want change up the teaching/approach for some children who are struggling. I am acutely aware that teachers just don’t have time to individualise the curriculum for 30 kids though, so I’m aware I might be looking at this from the 6-8 kids I currently take responsibility for in lessons and the ability to do this with a whole class might be much more limited.

i really love being with kids, I value education, I’m a good ‘teacher’ - as in I love to explain things simply and differently to children (or in my old role, to adults too).

Teachers - am I mad? I know too well how hard the job is these days. The primary curriculum here is crazy complicated. The breadth of ability and need is jaw dropping. But I truly believe in state education being a passport to a better life and would love to be part of that.

or do I just take the TA role, qualify up as much as I can in TA courses and accept I’ll be minimum wage forever but trying to make a difference?

important point: I have kids, so want to work part time. And train part time too. I know there are options for this but it will be competitive (I have top grades academically which I think might help). If I do a part time pgce, could I do my first year as a newly qualified teacher part time or is that not an option?

I don’t underestimate what a massive, difficult, demanding and at times (currently) desperately frustrating role teaching is. Am I too old for such a huge challenge? I’d love some wisdom from teachers and ex teachers please.

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BernadetteMatthews · 14/02/2025 08:51

Yep. You're mad. Wouldn't do it again for a million pound a year.

We all went into it thinking we would make a difference. I can't think of any job I would rather do less and I mean any job.

HoskinsChoice · 14/02/2025 08:51

I think there is huge value to kids from their Teachers being more mature (sorry! 🤣) and having experienced life. Go for it!

Liguria · 14/02/2025 08:54

I left at age 48 after 26 years and wouldn’t go back for a million pounds and a private villa in Tuscany.

Shakeyourbaublesandsmile · 14/02/2025 08:56

Nope
Maybe consider tutoring

Viviennemary · 14/02/2025 08:57

Usually I would say no. But in your circumstances I think it might be worth it. You've seen for yourself what the job entails. You want to be in charge rather than be a a TA which is understandable. But sounds like being low paid wouldn't be too important to you. If you are up for a challenge then go for it. If you want an easy stress free life don't.

bournevilleismyfavourite · 14/02/2025 08:58

I retrained aged 40 as a teacher (senior school) love it! No regrets. It’s a full on year of training but it’s brilliant.

Doingmybest12 · 14/02/2025 09:00

I think you should go for it. You've got life and work experience, you've got experience of volunteering in a school, it's a second career that it sounds like you could choose to leave after so many years rather than thinking you've got 35 years to do. Why not give it a try, we need good teachers.

MyPearlCrow · 14/02/2025 09:01

Shakeyourbaublesandsmile · 14/02/2025 08:56

Nope
Maybe consider tutoring

Tutoring is for people with money though, and I would want to access those kids who are more disadvantaged. That’s the part that interests me most.

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alwaysdeleteyourcookies · 14/02/2025 09:01

Well, I left. So I wouldn't recommend it to anyone. Tutoring?

MyPearlCrow · 14/02/2025 09:01

Liguria · 14/02/2025 08:54

I left at age 48 after 26 years and wouldn’t go back for a million pounds and a private villa in Tuscany.

I’m so sorry you feel like this. Can I delve and ask you (and others!) for more details about why?

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TwatOnAHotTinRoof · 14/02/2025 09:03

I'm in the Uni sector but from a family full of teachers who love their roles (secondary). I don't see any of what's written on here from the teachers in my extended family so I would say go for it OP!

biscuitsandbooks · 14/02/2025 09:05

Judging by the number of teachers leaving at the moment, I think you'd be absolutely insane.

MyPearlCrow · 14/02/2025 09:05

Viviennemary · 14/02/2025 08:57

Usually I would say no. But in your circumstances I think it might be worth it. You've seen for yourself what the job entails. You want to be in charge rather than be a a TA which is understandable. But sounds like being low paid wouldn't be too important to you. If you are up for a challenge then go for it. If you want an easy stress free life don't.

this is good advice. Hand on heart, I love my stress free life at the moment. That’s made me think.

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Shakeyourbaublesandsmile · 14/02/2025 09:05

MyPearlCrow · 14/02/2025 09:01

I’m so sorry you feel like this. Can I delve and ask you (and others!) for more details about why?

@MyPearlCrow it’s broken like many other public services. The actual role is great but the job within the system is awful.

You are never done, there are never enough hours to do what is expected- vicarious organisational stress is inevitable.

MyPearlCrow · 14/02/2025 09:06

Shakeyourbaublesandsmile · 14/02/2025 09:05

@MyPearlCrow it’s broken like many other public services. The actual role is great but the job within the system is awful.

You are never done, there are never enough hours to do what is expected- vicarious organisational stress is inevitable.

Thank you for this. Can I ask how relevant good leadership is here? Are heads/leadership teams on board and aware of the challenges/impossibilities of doing everything?

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MyPearlCrow · 14/02/2025 09:09

biscuitsandbooks · 14/02/2025 09:05

Judging by the number of teachers leaving at the moment, I think you'd be absolutely insane.

Isn’t that a reason TO do it though? I completely understand the burn out, I’ve been there, it’s awful. But unlike law, teachers are essential and need replacing?

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Doingmybest12 · 14/02/2025 09:10

From your original post it sounded like you had a good grip on what the difficulties would be and I said go for it. But based on your recent post I think you should take a paid TA role and then make a decision with more inside experience. Also as a TA you may get to do more of the bits you think you'd like.

BellaCiaoBellaCiao · 14/02/2025 09:11

Don’t do it.
There is a WORLD of difference between being a TA and being the class teacher.
Behaviour is APPALLING.
Pressure is INTENSE.
Expectations are LAUGHABLE.

I’ve just retired and I don’t know how I stuck it out for so long.
SERIOUSLY. Don’t do it.

biscuitsandbooks · 14/02/2025 09:15

@MyPearlCrow ha - if anything I'd say the fact that it's essential but increasing numbers of people are quitting should be a massive red flag for you that it's an awful idea.

MyPearlCrow · 14/02/2025 09:17

biscuitsandbooks · 14/02/2025 09:15

@MyPearlCrow ha - if anything I'd say the fact that it's essential but increasing numbers of people are quitting should be a massive red flag for you that it's an awful idea.

Yeah, it makes me so sad that this is true.

Do you think having a strong, mature voice from the inside would help stave off some of those expectations or is that cloud cuckoo land? It’s I type I realise most people will have tried this already.

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Liguria · 14/02/2025 09:17

MyPearlCrow · 14/02/2025 09:01

I’m so sorry you feel like this. Can I delve and ask you (and others!) for more details about why?

I recommend you join a group called Life After Teaching: Exit the Classroom and Thrive on Facebook. There were 170,000 members last time I looked. That will give you the picture. It isn’t a family-friendly profession these days. I left as soon as my DC had graduated university and had a secure job.

Spudalot · 14/02/2025 09:18

I’d say you’d be mad to do it, yep!

Blueberrymuffin8 · 14/02/2025 09:18

I left classroom teaching a year after I qualified! When I pick my boys up from primary school now, I can't help but thank their teachers for what they provide for my kids every day. No one knows how hard it is until you actually do it. I found it to be a nightmare job!

MyPearlCrow · 14/02/2025 09:18

BellaCiaoBellaCiao · 14/02/2025 09:11

Don’t do it.
There is a WORLD of difference between being a TA and being the class teacher.
Behaviour is APPALLING.
Pressure is INTENSE.
Expectations are LAUGHABLE.

I’ve just retired and I don’t know how I stuck it out for so long.
SERIOUSLY. Don’t do it.

I see the behaviour. It is indeed appalling. Many kids are just not parented anymore and are unable to take instructions.

but it’s these kids who need the most help?

idealistic I know.

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biscuitsandbooks · 14/02/2025 09:19

@MyPearlCrow no. I think if anything, you'd be even less tolerant of the bullshit than someone younger.

I genuinely don't understand why someone coming into their fifties would want to make life even harder for themselves than necessary!