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What's the biggest culture shock you've experienced?

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Sacredhandbag · 23/01/2025 16:20

Good or bad?

For me it was definitely the bike culture in Amsterdam - and I loved it.

But also, the over enthusiasm of shop workers in America, the silence in the streets in Japan, and the way Australians are so outdoorsy but can't handle the rain 😅

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Wholeboxoftissues · 25/01/2025 10:12

The lack of variety of crisp flavours in every other European country.

Gwenhwyfar · 25/01/2025 10:17

JerrySprinter · 25/01/2025 04:14

The thread is about culture shocks. For me, the move from.where I grew up (north eastern deprived town) to a quiet, afflent south eastern town was a culture shock at the time.

I'm.well aware that all the 'south' isn't perfect. But for me, at that time, in that situation, I was in awe of how different my new life was.

Which is what the thread is about. I think!

Yes and your experience is valid as anyone else's.

Gwenhwyfar · 25/01/2025 10:20

calishire · 25/01/2025 07:21

For me, having lived in England since I was 18, going to kids birthday parties in my late 30s after having kids.... the birthday cake to take home in the napkin!!! What the heck?! I found it absolutely bonkers weird. Complete culture shock even though I've lived here for decades.

What do you find so weird about it?

crowstreet · 25/01/2025 10:24

Limonsuz · 25/01/2025 09:05

Kids and cats are definitely the kings and queens in Turkey. Though some grannies with unsolicited opinions on what you should feed your kids, they're dressed too lightly, etc can get a bit annoying. If English speaking you're blissfully sheltered from this, enjoy!

Remember seeing a group of twenty something Turkish lads queuing patiently to take a selfie and play with a kitten near Suleiman’s tomb in Istanbul. Also, a cat dozing on a sunny pavement in front of an ATM and everyone doing funny walks to withdraw money without making it move.
Never experienced any problems on a solo trip to Istanbul, btw.

Gwenhwyfar · 25/01/2025 10:26

Limonsuz · 25/01/2025 08:32

In Turkey, the birthday boy or girl is "treated", meaning friends arrange dinner and pay for it as a way of celebrating that person. Here in the UK, the birthday boy or girl arranges the dinner and pays for it (or everyone pays for themselves). Also in general there's a fight over who will pay the bill (if you can't do this, you don't go out is the general gist) and here, sometimes it's a fight over but I didn't drink therefore won't be dividing etc. I can see the point of both, it's just something I've come to accept over the years but still amuses me. The other culture shock was kids here expected to leave home after 18 and Turkish mums clinging to their kids for dear life to not let that happen for as long as possible 😂

In some UK workplaces you get a cake from your colleagues on your birthday and in others you bring the cake. Seems to depend on size of workplace I think, but maybe also a geographical thing.

I'm on the continent now and the birthday person has to bring the cake.

At first I was actually surprised by the idea of someone buying a round of drinks on their birthday as I'd been brought up with it the other way around, contradicting what you say about the birthday person always paying in the UK.

Gwenhwyfar · 25/01/2025 10:27

JMSA · 25/01/2025 09:00

We have ranch Grin Pic is the one they sell in Tesco. M&S and Waitrose have their own brand ranch too.
Admittedly you'd need a biggish supermarket, rather than being able to pick it up at the corner shop!

I've never seen it so not that easy to find or know about.

Whathashedonethistime · 25/01/2025 10:34

Gwenhwyfar · 25/01/2025 10:20

What do you find so weird about it?

I think the cake is eaten at the party most places?
I’m in Ireland and just heard about taking cake home in a napkin on MN. I was also a little surprised. Here the cake is cut and eaten by the party guests (and often their parents at little children’s parties 😋). Just a small cultural difference.

Gwenhwyfar · 25/01/2025 10:36

Whathashedonethistime · 25/01/2025 10:34

I think the cake is eaten at the party most places?
I’m in Ireland and just heard about taking cake home in a napkin on MN. I was also a little surprised. Here the cake is cut and eaten by the party guests (and often their parents at little children’s parties 😋). Just a small cultural difference.

But isn't the cake eaten in the UK too and leftovers taken home??

Whathashedonethistime · 25/01/2025 10:42

Gwenhwyfar · 25/01/2025 10:36

But isn't the cake eaten in the UK too and leftovers taken home??

That isn’t the impression I’ve got from various MN posts I’ve read. It seems to be cut up to send home in napkins in some parts of the UK anyway 🤔

Snakebite61 · 25/01/2025 10:49

ItGhoul · 23/01/2025 16:42

The constant presence of Christian evangelism in the Bible Belt states of the USA.

Those people are insane.

Snakebite61 · 25/01/2025 10:50

Gwenhwyfar · 25/01/2025 10:20

What do you find so weird about it?

What's weird about that?

Snakebite61 · 25/01/2025 10:52

Whathashedonethistime · 25/01/2025 10:34

I think the cake is eaten at the party most places?
I’m in Ireland and just heard about taking cake home in a napkin on MN. I was also a little surprised. Here the cake is cut and eaten by the party guests (and often their parents at little children’s parties 😋). Just a small cultural difference.

It's usually leftover cake when that happens. Or taking some home for someone who couldn't make it to the pan. I find people's overreaction to this extremely weird.

2107emc · 25/01/2025 10:53

BrickBiscuit · 24/01/2025 14:25

"Well this is turning into a racist thread quite quickly"
Also another PP asked that writer to explain what they found racist. Did they ever respond?

They didn't. As an Irish person, I must admit I flinched when a pp described her experience of being in Ireland and hearing everyone cursing freely as 'grim'.

I'm an Irish women who 'discovered' cursing as a young girl. None of my family curse and none of my friends curse the way I do. For reasons I don't fully understand to this day, I found it incredibly liberating. The best explanation I've managed to come up with is that it was my small act of rebellion against being the 'good little Catholic girl' I was expected to be.

Maybe other people are wincing at how their country/peoples is being evaluated. But in general I do think it's just a fun thread not to be taken too seriously.

TheBogInn · 25/01/2025 10:56

Gwenhwyfar · 25/01/2025 10:26

In some UK workplaces you get a cake from your colleagues on your birthday and in others you bring the cake. Seems to depend on size of workplace I think, but maybe also a geographical thing.

I'm on the continent now and the birthday person has to bring the cake.

At first I was actually surprised by the idea of someone buying a round of drinks on their birthday as I'd been brought up with it the other way around, contradicting what you say about the birthday person always paying in the UK.

Yes, where I'm from in UK the friends always pay for the drinks or meal for the birthday person. Same with a hen do. Colleagues usually have a whip round for cake and a card.
The few countries I lived in in Europe I found generally to be the complete opposite. Birthdays could end up expensive!

OooPourUsACupLove · 25/01/2025 10:59

Bjorkdidit · 25/01/2025 02:42

But those sorts of things are nothing to do with North vs South, but rich vs poor or rural vs urban environments.

Compare Tower Hamlets with Jesmond or Jaywick with Harrogate for example.

I live in one of the poorest areas of London. It is still different.

Whathashedonethistime · 25/01/2025 11:01

Snakebite61 · 25/01/2025 10:52

It's usually leftover cake when that happens. Or taking some home for someone who couldn't make it to the pan. I find people's overreaction to this extremely weird.

No, nobody would find taking home leftovers, or extra for someone who couldn’t attend, strange.

Cutting a birthday cake with the aim of sending home the slices with the guests - which I do think happens - seems unusual to me. We tend to eat the cake immediately here 😁

It’s not a big deal, just a little cultural difference as I said.

OooPourUsACupLove · 25/01/2025 11:19

I went to India on a work trip and it happened to co-incide with a company social event. Although we'd never met in person I'd been working with some of my Indian colleagues daily for at least a year so I was there as part of a social group not a guest on the side.

The Bollywood style dancing was great, everyone dancing together in a circle (well the blokes danced in one circle and the women in another) and really going for it. But the culture shock moment was that each team had prepared an entertainment performance and most of them were comedy skits taking affectionate piss out of the company dynamics and leadership, and since some of teams reported to my colleagues in the UK I got to watch my Indian colleagues doing impressions of them, like the young slim Indian guy waddling with his arms out to be his larger British manager saying "Helllo I am Dave and this is my Porsche" 😂😂 All the very senior managers were there and laughing along.

The culture shock was partly that the company do including entertaining each other, and partly that it was totally fine to do cheeky impressions of management. Loved the people in that office!

MirrorMirror70 · 25/01/2025 11:29

On the topic of British drinking culture and its comparison to the rest of the world, I was on the opposite side of culture shock. Around 10 years ago I was in central London on my way to a morning meeting on a weekday. A Mediterranean looking and sounding young man approached me and asked in bafflement “why are all the pubs closed?!” I was a bit bemused and said “…it‘s 9.30am. They’ll probably open around lunchtime.” He was utterly baffled that they weren’t open! I don’t know if it was the norm in his country that they’d be open at that time, or if he had heard lots of things about British drinking culture that led him to expect us all to be in the pub drinking at 9.30am on a Tuesday 😂

celticprincess · 25/01/2025 11:31

OMG the cycle culture in Amsterdam freaked me and my kids out walking round. So many times we nearly got hit. My DD wanted us to hire bikes but I wasn’t convinced as to the safety. It’s such a busy place.

in recall taking school kids on the bus to France for a trip. The arc de triumph roundabout is something everyone should experience. Apparently insurance isn’t valid when using that roundabout!! lol. And then we were told that they parked their cars with their handbrakes off so that cars could be shunted by other cars when trying to park. Not sure how true this is or was and it kind of makes sense bit I assume they all drive round with dented cars.

Cuba was interesting. My DH were followed round by locals who were trying to buy branded clothing off our backs and needed items we were carrying - Sony handycam back in the day. We were followed by portrait artists desperate to sell us our portrait or characature. It felt uncomfortable being followed so much. We were quite young at the time.

Sd352 · 25/01/2025 11:33

Canbebotheredwithpassiveracism · 25/01/2025 01:06

Been several times in Turkey and this never happened 🙄 Maybe consider Benidorm next time!!

Why would you invalidate someone else’s experiences because you didn’t experience it? I had an awful time in Istanbul, groped multiple times on public transportation, men trying to rub up against me, it was dreadful. Only time I have cut a trip short (I was on my own there, would have spent my 23rd birthday there but thought spending at an airport and on a plane was better than dealing with that). I am from Delhi so it wasn’t the blonde light skinned assumption that some women have made about why they suffered harassment, and it’s not like I hadn’t encountered it before either (being from Delhi) but the sheer quantum in Istanbul was something else.

Newsenmum · 25/01/2025 11:40

mummyof2boys30 · 23/01/2025 20:39

I cant believe i didnt actually know this. Here we have wake with open coffin. Kissing, touching the deceased person is totally normal. We recently had a sudden bereavement and the wake to funeral was 6 days due to nature of deaths. It felt so so long compared to our normal 2/3 days

Yeah in the uk you’d never expect to see a dead body unless it was a very close family
member they choose to say goodbye to in the casket privately before the funeral - even then Lots of people don’t

calishire · 25/01/2025 12:21

Gwenhwyfar · 25/01/2025 10:20

What do you find so weird about it?

It was a shock. Why don't you eat the cake at the party????!!!!

Ginmonkeyagain · 25/01/2025 12:26

In my experience that usally happens at children's parties. They have had enough sugary food already and are more interested in zooming around playing games. So the host will send them home with a "party bag" which usually contains a few small trinkets like stickers or pens and a slice of birthday cake in a napkin.

LeaDond · 25/01/2025 12:27

Returning to the UK from Europe, shocked at the state of our high streets.

Hungary, clean streets, smart shops, quality brands, lots of choice, loads of customers shopping.

The Netherlands as above with plenty of independents, quality food and flower markets, people cycling in, shopping, sitting outside for coffee. A community.

Online shopping and cheap imports from China are really letting us down, changing the face of British high streets and shopping habits.

calishire · 25/01/2025 12:31

JMSA · 25/01/2025 09:00

We have ranch Grin Pic is the one they sell in Tesco. M&S and Waitrose have their own brand ranch too.
Admittedly you'd need a biggish supermarket, rather than being able to pick it up at the corner shop!

Yes, you can get ranch here.... in some places and increasingly in American restaurants, but in the USA you can get it everywhere. It's served with fries as frequently as is ketchup! People dip their pizza in it!

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