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What's the biggest culture shock you've experienced?

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Sacredhandbag · 23/01/2025 16:20

Good or bad?

For me it was definitely the bike culture in Amsterdam - and I loved it.

But also, the over enthusiasm of shop workers in America, the silence in the streets in Japan, and the way Australians are so outdoorsy but can't handle the rain 😅

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samarrange · 24/01/2025 01:26

Gwenhwyfar · 23/01/2025 20:41

Is that related to calimucho, which was cheap red wine mixed with coke when I was a student in Spain. I think the botellon developed much later than that. Nights out till 6am probably means more alcohol is being drunk overall.

Yes indeed (and I spelled it wrong - the k/c at the start is OK, but it ends in o, not a). The standard way to make cheap red wine (a 1-litre Tetra Brik can still be found for less than a Euro) palatable for teenagers.

whynotwhatknot · 24/01/2025 01:28

Saracen · 24/01/2025 01:15

For a right-handed person: the fork is held in the right hand while eating. If you need to cut something, transfer the fork to your left hand while using the knife in your right. Cut off one piece, then put the knife down on the edge of your plate and swap the fork back to your right hand to bring the food to your mouth. The American etiquette columnist Judith Martin ("Miss Manners") jokingly observed that the extreme inefficiency of this method is proof that Americans are more highly evolved than Europeans.

You might think it would make sense to cut your entire steak up at once, to avoid the repeated back-and-forth. This is not allowed. It's only acceptable when cutting a child's food up.

When eating, as opposed to when cutting food, the fork tines curve upward and the fork is held in a pencil grip. Anything which cannot be impaled with your fork is scooped with your fork. Knives are only used to cut food, never to load food onto the fork. So it's difficult to eat peas, for example. You can "herd" them up against the other food on your plate at first, but the last few bites are bound to present a challenge. See above regarding inefficiency as a mark of sophistication 😂

On coming to the UK, I couldn't believe my luck when I learned that here it's perfectly polite to shovel food in using a quick and easy technique which we Americans would only employ when alone in the kitchen with the blinds shut 😁

do you know ive been so many times and never noticed!

AleaEim · 24/01/2025 01:29

battgirlatheart · 24/01/2025 00:50

Yes we found it a nasty hostile place
can not understand the hype surrounding it
I’ve travelled the world but just something about this place. Absolutely nothing like you’re led to believe!! There’s a reason it’s so damn cheap to go to!!

I had the same experience in Tunisia 15 years ago!

DrPrunesqualer · 24/01/2025 01:37

elp30 · 24/01/2025 01:13

Where in Texas were you?

I'm 54 and I've lived in Texas for most of my life, apart from nine years in England, and I've never ever seen anyone with a gun who wasn't a police officer. I know many people who own them but they don't go around openly with them and I live a five minutes drive from an outdoor shooting range. I've lived in four of the largest cities in the state too.

I’ve lived in Oklahoma ( well Norman ) and apart from the vast landscape, huge food shops, and twinkies my main surprise was everyone going to church on a Sunday then straight to a coffee shop afterwards.
A real buzz about town that I really liked

Although the KKK shop near Oklahoma Uni campus with a car parked outside with a number plate referencing Jesus was a shock. I’ve Google earth walked past that area recently and glad to see that shop has gone.

I did enjoy the penny beer, stomp dancing and two stepping though. Now you don’t get those in London

I never saw anyone with guns either

Crispynoodle · 24/01/2025 01:49

Calmomiletea · 24/01/2025 01:12

I doubt your post is truly your culture shock experience as much as it is your culture criticism. And if you have such a desire to criticise Protestant culture, then you are hardly likely to be among the throngs in the streets, actually experiencing it. 🙄🙄🙄🥱

💯 culture shock I couldn't believe what I was seeing it's all so strange. Apologies if you took my post as criticism of the Protestant faith it's still very much a mystery to me

mangoes1 · 24/01/2025 02:00

TimeForATerf · 23/01/2025 20:47

Graffiti, in Australia, specifically Melbourne. Everywhere.

That's actually encouraged in the inner city laneways of Melbourne. They are full of bars and restaurants and cafes and rather than having boring walls the council got in some graffiti artists to brigten things up. Some of them are amazing. There's lots of pics on instagram under Melbourne laneways.

Cattenberg · 24/01/2025 02:21

Ibiza aged 4 - Everyone made an effort to be nice to me as though they thought I was special, but in reality they just loved children. It was hot and even some of the grown ups had a nap after lunch. The milk was horrible. The postboxes were yellow instead of red and the trees were different.

Fes El Bali, Morocco in my 20s - It’s an ancient maze-like medina. The first time my boyfriend and I were led through it to our hotel, I felt as though I were watching a slide-show on fast-forward.

There were countless tiny shops and I couldn’t so much as glance at a carpet or silver teapot without getting the hard sell - I hated that. When I did buy something, haggling over a glass of mint tea was usually part of the ritual.

Goods were carried through the narrow alleyways by donkeys, or by young boys pulling trolleys. I felt sorry for some of the donkeys and the unkempt stray cats.

People also carried trays of bread dough through the streets so they could bake them at a communal bakery. There were communal bathhouses (hammams) as well.

Many local men hung around the streets and leered at the foreign women. Men (and boys) also kept trying to guide me around in exchange for money. But I learnt my way around by using by nose and ears, as well as my eyes. The bakery smelled good; the tannery smelled awful. In the metalworkers’ square, men hammered out enormous metal bowls, big enough for a wedding feast.

CarolinaInTheMorning · 24/01/2025 02:26

So it's difficult to eat peas, for example. You can herd" them up against the other food on your plate at first, but the last few bites are bound to present a challenge.

It's one of the reasons that we Americans often serve mashed potatoes when we have peas. You adhere those last few bites of peas to your last few bites of mashed potatoes. Job done.

Hoover2025 · 24/01/2025 02:29

The principles of overtaking in Africa.

It’s basically the other persons responsibility to slow down and not smash into you even when it’s you that’s overtaking and on the wrong side of the road.

AliasGrace47 · 24/01/2025 03:03

mangoamango · 23/01/2025 17:18

While ot may still happen, spanking is forbidden by law in France since 2016 and a further law in 2019 banned all forms of "commonplace educational violence " against children so I can assure you that not all parents here are dishing out smacks and clips around the ear willy nilly. A former colleague's ex-wife accused him of slapping his son during a particularly nasty divorce and as a result, all three of his kids had to go through medical examinations, interviews with psychiatrists in presence of the police and both parents were interviewed by the police and social services. He was cleared in the end but the whole process took 3 months and his youngest son still talks about it 5 years later. Open season, it is not.

While not a trailing spouse myself, I have known a lot of them and wouldn't be rushing to take what they see as being representative of real life for the rest of us (see also French Women Don't Get Fat and, although the author isn't a trailing spouse, A Year in the Merde)

As someone whose family are all big francophiles, as am I, I think that book did make some valid points. My French friends & acquaintances who grew up here were quite a lot like the kids she described, & my family felt it stacked up for at least some people they'd met. But she's speaking about quite snobby areas of Paris, & a lot of what she says is common sense & not specifically French. She stil lives there & wrote a new book recently, I wonder what she thinks now? & how her kids feel about the book?
On the spanking thing, my friends certainly weren't spanked. On the whole France can be a bit unprogressive in some fronts, & I think that's one of them.

AliasGrace47 · 24/01/2025 03:08

Hwi · 23/01/2025 20:55

Japan is a monoethnic state, outwardly it is kind and helpful with visitors go 'awww, no migrants, that is why everything is fine', and then you go and check their suicide rate, their misogyny, their historic site of 'torture garden', their cruelty and suddenly you think, 'naaah, thanks, I'd rather be ruffed up at a bus stop occasionally, but I prefer it here'.

This is a bit unfair on the Japanese, these are awful issues but many people are trying to change them. Look at the response to Mieko Kawakami's novels, the culture is def waking up to the misogyny, or starting to. MeToo has moved things somewhat at least.

beencaughttrollin · 24/01/2025 03:22

12FreeRangeEggs · 23/01/2025 18:29

I was pulled over by the cops in a Texan city for walking.

Everyone drives everywhere in Texas, so someone reported me to the cops for walking, not Jaywalking I might add, from one huge mall to another huge shop. They thought I had a mental illness. When I told them I was British and used to walking everywhere the cops eventually let me go.

I lived in Houston, Texas until a few years ago. I can't drive because I have narcolepsy. It's incredibly inconvenient to be unable to drive, because driving is the default Texas-wide, and therefore public transit and options for walking are limited - NOT non-existent.

However, I've never encountered anything but sympathy when I have told people I cannot drive. There are certainly no state-wide laws against walking.

Can you tell us where and when this happened, and are you sure you were not stopped for another reason besides "walking" (maybe trespassing; the laws on what is considered private property are quite different than those in the UK, and there is no "right to roam")?

LushLemonTart · 24/01/2025 03:30

Well that's me never going to Marrakesh 😳

Weepixie · 24/01/2025 03:49

In the shopping centre lifts, people were employed to press the button for the floor you needed to go to and they sat on a stool next to the buttons all day

this was normal when I as growing up in north east Scotland in the 60’s and early 70’s when I moved. The job was usually done by someone who had a disability and each time the lift stopped at a floor the lift attendant would shout out what was available on the floor so you knew when to get out.

JMSA · 24/01/2025 03:54

Newsenmum · 23/01/2025 16:44

Japan had a lot. Going into supermarkets and genuinely having no idea what something was. Children wearing school uniform even on weekends to advertise their school. The quietness and uniformity. People just obeying the rules. Things like the inability to understand how someone could lose a bus ticket and instead of just saying “no you have to buy a new one” being sent through ten different people all expressing surprise I could lose it. They couldn’t just say no!

Oh and the shop workers having incredibly high pitched voices, acting like children and following you around.

Edited

It really would be the dream destination for my adult autistic daughter!

JMSA · 24/01/2025 03:58

CatsndtheBear · 23/01/2025 16:53

Teaching in Cambodia ten years ago. Having my first set of parent evenings and the parents being extremely concerned (to the point of being frantic) about how much milk their child drinks during the day and how much food they eat.

The children were 7 years old, but the primary concern was their eating and milk intake.

The affects of the Khmer Rouge were everywhere.

I don't understand (sorry). Is it that the parents were feeders, or that they were concerned about their children becoming overweight?
Very interesting either way!

LukesDiner · 24/01/2025 04:03

Moving to and living in China. The culture shock is immense, even after living in another asian country. The little things I've noticed are that people don't generally get out of the way for each other on the pavement, the next-level queuing (it really is something to behold - even as a Brit!) - even queuing to take a photo with me or my children if we stand still for a second! Also the genuine kindness of the Chinese if you need help and can find a way to ask for it. The biggest shock is the pace of change and the technological wonders at your fingertips. The ease of life is amazing, once you know how to access it. The electric vehicle revolution - the quietness and cleanliness of roads after living in an asian petrol-fueled city.

Fifisneighbor · 24/01/2025 04:11

xRobin · 23/01/2025 16:55

Being grabbed by an Egyptian who tried selling me for 6 camels.
My ex thought it was funny and said “all yours mate” with a thumbs up.
The Egyptian thought it was a done deal.
I’m blonde and blue-eyed and was 23 at the time.
Another Egyptian at a coffee shop licked his lips at me in the airport when I asked for a latte.

I had a similar situation in a small town in Turkey. I didn’t feel unsafe but seriously wtf.

JMSA · 24/01/2025 04:11

MifsBr0wn · 23/01/2025 17:35

I had to do a module of community nursing during my training : I didn't know people still lived like that.

Like what?

Yougetmoreofwhatyoufocuson · 24/01/2025 04:17

Sacredhandbag · 23/01/2025 23:06

Where did you come from?

Marrakesh

hellohellooo · 24/01/2025 04:25

Sidebeforeself · 23/01/2025 16:38

In NY one December. Had a stinking cold. Apparently it’s not the done thing to sneeze or blow your nose in public. Twice I was told I was disgusting!

I got sick once on the street in NY
Tummy bug
Ran to a hedge

A lady called the police on me 😞😞😞😞

DancingLions · 24/01/2025 04:29

I'm in Japan right now. Currently sitting in a very busy cafe and other than the low background music and the occasional clink of a coffee cup, we could be in a library! It's so quiet. Was in a different cafe the other day and 3 American men came in and were talking really loudly and I had to resist the urge to say to them "we use quiet voices here" 😂

And when I go to use the loo, I will leave my handbag coat etc at the table, knowing 100% they will be there when I get back. (I'm here alone).

I've been to Japan a few times for varying lengths of time. I'm well aware of the problems that exist here but none of it is things that really affect tourists. I have never felt less than 100% safe.

For me the culture shock happens when I go home to London. In Japan I become a "softer" version of myself and then have to go back to the noise, grit, rudeness and dirt and harden myself again.

Passwordsaremynemesis · 24/01/2025 04:37

In the early 90s I took my then boyfriend/now husband to meet friends in Belfast (we lived in London). He almost had a heart attack when he spotted a soldier hunkering down in Marks and Spencer’s doorway with a massive gun! It was so normal to me I didn’t even think to mention the army presence to him! The hovering helicopters freaked him out too, as did the flags and painted cobblestones.

I think my funniest one was when I was reading a newspaper in Australia and there was a full page ad advertising Dogging courses.😀 Dogging here means something quite different to the UK.😀

CatsndtheBear · 24/01/2025 04:47

JMSA · 24/01/2025 03:58

I don't understand (sorry). Is it that the parents were feeders, or that they were concerned about their children becoming overweight?
Very interesting either way!

The Khmer Rouge was a communist regime that ruled Cambodia from 1975 to 1979.

They forced people out of cities into labor camps, banned religion, and targeted intellectuals, ethnic minorities, and anyone they saw as a threat.

During this time, millions of Cambodians suffered from starvation, forced labor, and violence, with around 1.7 to 3 million people dying.

The Killing Trees are something that (in my opinion) people should be aware of as Auschwitz

People resorted to eating frogs and tarantulas and drinking the blood of cows to survive. People with glasses were killed as they were judged as being academic.

So the parents that grew up during or just after the Khmer Rouge have huge trauma that has shaped how they view food—it’s not just sustenance; it’s security, survival, and love.

So, their focus on making sure their kids are well-fed comes from a place of deep fear that their children might ever experience the kind of scarcity they or their parents endured.

sashh · 24/01/2025 04:50

OldTinHat · 23/01/2025 16:37

@EVHead Hahaha, yes!!! I remember being in a park in Paris with my younger DSis and my DM. I was 15, DSis 13. We were literally stalked and DM kept yelling at the guys to bugger off, leave us alone, we were children, etc.

Problem is, she didn't speak French so she was shouting in English. DSis and I can speak French, me more so at the time, so we were shouting translations to the guys, they were shouting back, we translated to DM and off we went again. It was so, so funny!

Also, same trip, getting a commuter train from Paris to Rambouillet (from memory). DM was convinced I'd got us on the wrong train and was getting very stressed. The other passengers didn't know I could understand every word of 'fucking tourists, should learn the language, hope they get lost' comments being muttered. That was until we got off the train and I announced, loudly in French, to the whole carriage, what a delight it was travelling with them and I hope they all had a lovely evening 😊

I'm 53 now but remember it like it was yesterday.

Going off topic here but it fits with the Paris theme.

I was about 13 heading to Paris with my mum who would not fly so it was train, train, ferry, train, train.

On the first train in France I was sitting opposite my mum, some older French men were sitting at the other side of the aisle and a group of English students were behind me.

They were being loud and obnoxious and generally being a pain.

Then one of them threw a half eaten apple over his shoulder that hit my head and rolled down my face.

My mother turned into Maggie Thatcher on acid, stood up and told them off in no uncertain terms, I can't remember all of it but, "a disgrace to Britain" was included along with me wearing glasses and I could have lost my eye.

She then sat down and although we had no idea what the older men were saying but they certainly approved of my mother's speech.

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