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What's the biggest culture shock you've experienced?

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Sacredhandbag · 23/01/2025 16:20

Good or bad?

For me it was definitely the bike culture in Amsterdam - and I loved it.

But also, the over enthusiasm of shop workers in America, the silence in the streets in Japan, and the way Australians are so outdoorsy but can't handle the rain 😅

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Namechangefordaughterevasion · 23/01/2025 19:55

In Marrakesh we went on a tour of the souk(s). Me and 2 teenage daughters. We didn't get hassled at all - maybe because we were with a guide but I was amazed to see a baker with a massive wood fired oven built into the wall of his shop where people would pay a few coins to bring their food to be baked /roasted as many houses don't have ovens.

I know this was quite common here back in the day but I was surprised to see it in this day and age.

Gwenhwyfar · 23/01/2025 19:56

Wexone · 23/01/2025 19:50

Carpets make the house feel cosy. I don't want to see people's feet 😫 I much rather they keep their shoes on please
I would rather have my house as opening and welcoming rather than people avoid coming as have to take their shoes off.
here in Ireland it's called having notions

This is something that's changed a lot in the UK, probably going from minority shoes off to majority shoes off in the last couple of decades. I don't want to start a conversation about it though as it's been done to death on MN from both points of view.

DrPrunesqualer · 23/01/2025 19:56

Working in Hong Kong
I had to up my ironing skills
People were so neatly dressed, practically starched in place

You could spot the Brit a mile away 🤣

Gwenhwyfar · 23/01/2025 19:57

QuinionsRainbow · 23/01/2025 19:52

And even in France back in the 1980s.

Much more recently than that in France.

TinklySnail · 23/01/2025 19:57

SirSidneyRuffDiamond · 23/01/2025 19:44

@TinklySnail

I realised after I wrote it that obviously the cars were driven round it! I think it was the unconcerned and nonchalant way they just drove past this mahoosive cow as if it were of no consequence at all. Later on I had a very near miss with a falling water buffalo and once again the Sherpas were just so... nonchalant about that too, as if such things are an everyday occurrence.

I think I would love the nonchalant attitude.
Here you’ve got to call 101 which takes forever. I’m always scared someone will accidentally hit it.
I love the respect cows get. They are awesome ☺️

HOTTOGOisastupidsong · 23/01/2025 19:58

Wexone · 23/01/2025 19:50

Carpets make the house feel cosy. I don't want to see people's feet 😫 I much rather they keep their shoes on please
I would rather have my house as opening and welcoming rather than people avoid coming as have to take their shoes off.
here in Ireland it's called having notions

Ha! Many’s a time I have tried to explain notions to friends from the UK or US - they do NOT get it, no matter how I explain it. Especially our American friends - like they just can’t comprehend it

LaPalmaLlama · 23/01/2025 19:58

Namechangefordaughterevasion · 23/01/2025 19:37

A really happy one was a recent visit to Lourdes in France. It's a place of pilgrimage for Catholics and many people with varying levels of disability and illness go there seeking a miracle cure or relief from pain or just a break.

It was so refreshing to be in a place where disability was totally accepted. Where the whole infrastructure was set up to be welcoming and accessible to people who are marginalised in most public spaces.

I didn't see any medical miracles but just the loving, accepting atmosphere of the town (junky religious souvenirs included) was a miracle of sorts.

Now might be a good time to confess about my most embarrassing ever miscommunication over this guy I liked. Convo with my friend

Me: Yes, he's ever so nice. He's spending his holiday taking some disabled people to watch the cricket
Her: Oh really, when?
Me: In a few weeks. It must be a test match as he'll be gone for a week
Her: I didnt know there was a test match coming up. Where is it?
Me: Lords

Drop mic. My friend (a catholic) stopped laughing after about 10 minutes.

mangoamango · 23/01/2025 19:58

AwardGiselePelicotTheNobelPeacePrize · 23/01/2025 19:08

Actually I agree that a glass of wine is not usually what people drink as an apéro on its own. A glass of white with some oysters, yes, but not typically as a standalone drink.

Might be a regional thing. I live in the Loire Valley and a glass of white is very much the go to apéro, with or without something to nibble on. My husband is from Dijon and it is the same there. On the other hand, you don't see it as much in Britanny or in the North.

ERthree · 23/01/2025 19:58

LittleScampi · 23/01/2025 19:37

Moved to a European country with a reputation for being boring. Went to a bar one evening with some new friends. A proper bar, not a cafe. The two women I was with ordered herbal tea.

I can’t imagine this being culturally acceptable in the UK!

I wish we could do that in every bar in the UK. I can't drink alcohol, can manage one can of fizzy drink or one fruit juice, so half the time sit there with water. I would be in heaven if the sold tea. Not everyone that goes into a pub wants alcohol.

Yougetmoreofwhatyoufocuson · 23/01/2025 19:59

Beetlebumz · 23/01/2025 19:44

She meant Blackberries maybe? Don’t think that’s a weird thing to say.

Blackberries, crab apples, plums, rose hips, sloes, damsons, hazelnuts, elderberries. Shall I go on?

When you come from a poor place, there is no free food just hanging about that nobody can be bothered to harvest. Even the lush verges amazed me that they had no animals tethered there to eat the free grass. It was culture shock to me.

apateu · 23/01/2025 19:59

Lived in china in the mid 2000s, toilets with no doors or partitions were fairly common and is not something I could cope with! I became an expert at holding it.

AwardGiselePelicotTheNobelPeacePrize · 23/01/2025 19:59

Gwenhwyfar · 23/01/2025 19:23

Yes, I know, but what has that got to do with the claim that they never drink wine without a meal?

It's not never. But wine not being a typical standalone drink is definitely a thing. It's much more typical with a meal.

Illegally18 · 23/01/2025 19:59

Spudstogo · 23/01/2025 17:32

@Mabelmable the Irish say feck which is not considered a swear word.

yes, that's what I thought.

arcticpandas · 23/01/2025 20:00

LittleScampi · 23/01/2025 19:37

Moved to a European country with a reputation for being boring. Went to a bar one evening with some new friends. A proper bar, not a cafe. The two women I was with ordered herbal tea.

I can’t imagine this being culturally acceptable in the UK!

Germany?

BunnyLake · 23/01/2025 20:02

LolaLouise · 23/01/2025 17:59

In Florida. I could see a supermarket across the road from the hotel, but there was no way to actually walk to said supermarket, no where to cross the road, no pavements, i had a buggy aged child, it just wasnt possible to safely get there unless we drove across a street. Insane.

The lack of pavements is insane. I stayed in a place near Boston and the entire neighbourhood had no pavements and there was no such thing as a bus stop (or a bus). I couldn't imagine the area I live in here to have no pavements anywhere. I don’t know how the more elderly managed their lives there. I couldn't live like that.

JooLoo · 23/01/2025 20:03

Downtown Vancouver. Shocked at the number of wasted people on the streets, shooting up quite openly. Some of them looked to be at death’s door.

TheBoots · 23/01/2025 20:04

Caddycat · 23/01/2025 18:24

Or foreign... wine is for meals only.

As a French woman...that's absolute nonsense.

ERthree · 23/01/2025 20:04

InterIgnis · 23/01/2025 19:39

Moving to the UK from Serbia and having to adapt to the cultural norms regarding communication. Serbian, and actually the Slavic languages and cultures in general - and the Dutch, apparently - are much more direct and ‘blunt’ in a way that is perceived as rude in the UK. The same with facial expressions - I’ve admittedly got that stereotypical blank/stone/bitch faced expression so I was often thought to be angry or miserable when that wasn’t the case at all. I also had to learn to interpret what was meant from what was said.

I did make conscious efforts to soften myself a bit, but I don’t think I could ever be described as particularly diplomatic by British standards.

From Greek Stock and i have the opposite problem to you, my face shows every emotion without me thinking about it, it just happens and often gets me into trouble.

NameChangedForThis1985 · 23/01/2025 20:05

BunnyLake · 23/01/2025 20:02

The lack of pavements is insane. I stayed in a place near Boston and the entire neighbourhood had no pavements and there was no such thing as a bus stop (or a bus). I couldn't imagine the area I live in here to have no pavements anywhere. I don’t know how the more elderly managed their lives there. I couldn't live like that.

Reminds me of the time I was visiting family in Johannesburg and we had to get an Uber from the restaurant to a bar which we could literally see across the street - except the street was a highway and there was no other way of getting across!

Gwenhwyfar · 23/01/2025 20:05

arcticpandas · 23/01/2025 20:00

Germany?

Probably Belgium :)
You can get hot drinks in British pubs too though. It was a bit awkward 20 years ago unless they served food, but now is totally normal and free refills in the Spoons as well.

Illegally18 · 23/01/2025 20:05

JaneJeffer · 23/01/2025 17:52

That's just a throwback to being forced to speak English rather than our native language.

eh?

arcticpandas · 23/01/2025 20:06

ShinyAppleDreamingOfTheSea · 23/01/2025 19:43

Interesting perception there @Gwenhwyfar
Perhaps its the high level of service end expectations in their own country which makes some Americans appear a little demanding when encountered in other countries.

Or perhaps they are all very entitled and don't care about bothering people about small things?

millfree · 23/01/2025 20:06

Didshejustsaythatoutloud · 23/01/2025 19:39

Sounds fantastic, I wanna live there 😀

Yeah Japan has some wonderful bits of its culture including a no tipping culture! However it also has its downsides but it is lovely in so many ways.

Gwenhwyfar · 23/01/2025 20:08

"Perhaps its the high level of service end expectations in their own country which makes some Americans appear a little demanding when encountered in other countries."

Well, yes, of course.

Aftergloww · 23/01/2025 20:08

Nothing could have prepared me to the drinking and drug culture in the UK. The way it’s treated so casually is baffling. I’ve never seen anything more depressing.

Also no one going for walks after dinner.

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