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What's the biggest culture shock you've experienced?

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Sacredhandbag · 23/01/2025 16:20

Good or bad?

For me it was definitely the bike culture in Amsterdam - and I loved it.

But also, the over enthusiasm of shop workers in America, the silence in the streets in Japan, and the way Australians are so outdoorsy but can't handle the rain 😅

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Yougetmoreofwhatyoufocuson · 23/01/2025 19:21

@BitOutOfPractice

Marrakesh

Gwenhwyfar · 23/01/2025 19:22

TinklySnail · 23/01/2025 19:09

Yeah this is definitely a thing. Have puppy and you’ll be adored. Have child you will be judged. Sorry 😔

Yes, but if you tried to make a fuss of someone's baby these days, you'd be told to stand back, not touch, not give them your germs, etc.

Catsandcheese · 23/01/2025 19:22

We moved to Belgium some years ago because of my husband's job. He was really busy so I thought I'd sort out the admin, like registering in the commune, buying a car and opening a bank account. It really wasn't possible without him there as well.
They had a weird idea about wives, but I have to say I really loved living there. I want to go back to retire there.
I also love the big French greetings everywhere in the Francophone parts of Belgium and France itself, everyone is so happy you have come into their shop or cafe, and it just makes everything nicer.
But wine and chocolate with everything wasn't great for the waistline 😂

Gwenhwyfar · 23/01/2025 19:23

arcticpandas · 23/01/2025 19:10

French people generally don't drink like the English. Even younger drink far less, binge drinking is not a thing as in the UK and Scandinavia.

Yes, I know, but what has that got to do with the claim that they never drink wine without a meal?

Greyish2025 · 23/01/2025 19:24

stampin · 23/01/2025 19:18

New York. The woman next to me in a clothes shop did a very loud fart, she casually said 'excuse me' and carried on shopping.

No attempt to pretend it wasn't her. Now that's a real culture shock.

I doubt that’s normal, that woman may have had health problems that caused it and felt she had to apologies as it was out of her control

Eyerollexpert · 23/01/2025 19:24

AInightingale · 23/01/2025 17:23

People - by which I mean men - spit everywhere where I live. Is it really just a Chinese thing? It's becoming everyday behaviour in our cities too, regrettably. I blame footballers for normalising it. Absolutely disgusting and unnecessary thing to do, unless you've got a fly in your mouth or something.

I work in FE in a northern town , we have had to put up no spitting signs! Disgusting.

Gwenhwyfar · 23/01/2025 19:24

birdglasspen2 · 23/01/2025 19:12

So, Wales has no culture? I live a very long way from London and big shops. But I’m surrounded by the culture of my country.

I've seen this before and I figure they mean elite culture e.g. opera houses and concert halls. They don't mean local choirs and amateur dramatics in the village hall, but that is culture too and is very rich in some parts of Wales.

TrellisMonday · 23/01/2025 19:25

LavenderViolets · 23/01/2025 19:15

Sri Lanka beach area for the constant aggro and non stop hassle from hotel staff to bus drivers, everyone was trying to rip you off. Never again! Worse was the old men frolicking with young male boys that turned my stomach.

NYC for the amazing black guys working at the cosmetic counters in the big dept stores - they were so awesome and friendly. I remember thinking that wouldn’t happen at home. Also for the poverty and amount of rough sleeping which was horrid.

Egypt for the sexism and seeing women covered from head to toe……quite a few years back and hadn’t seen it before. I was covered up but had so much staring it made me uncomfortable even though married and with DH. He was offered 200 camels for me but declined lol. I loved Cairo sights but wouldn’t go back.

I hated Sri Lanka for this reason - I was constantly hassled and experienced the same with cons.

Once at a train station I asked the official guy there when the next train to Candy was, he said it was cancelled, and I should take a tuk tuk with his friend instead.

I smelt a rat so I insisted on thr ticket waited and sure enough the train came.

I'm well travelled though and listen to my gut on things, I can imagine he convinced many tourists to part £££.

(The train ticket was very cheap $2, whereas his 'friend' wanted approx $60!).

Switcher · 23/01/2025 19:26

EVHead · 23/01/2025 16:23

In France, not being able to go for a walk on my own, sit on a park bench and read a book, without some bloke following me/sitting next to me and chatting me up. Never happened in the UK!

Harassment in France still gives me the rage over 20 years later. I spent 6 months in Paris, absolutely hate it as a result, they can all just fuck off.

viralviv · 23/01/2025 19:27

Canada. 1990s

Got chucked out of a male-only bar. I didn't know these things existed in the west.

Having a french-style picnic in the park with a bottle of wine and a police car drove across the grass to where we were sitting to tell us public drinking wasn't allowed.

Gwenhwyfar · 23/01/2025 19:28

"I thought I'd sort out the admin, like registering in the commune, buying a car and opening a bank account. It really wasn't possible without him there as well.
They had a weird idea about wives"

How is that weird? Of course he has to register himself at the commune like everybody else.

"everyone is so happy you have come into their shop or cafe, and it just makes everything nicer."

Such a contrast to my first time in Wallonia!

Justwonderingifthisisnormal · 23/01/2025 19:29

Sacredhandbag · 23/01/2025 16:56

I'm British born and bred and id never blow my nose in public. It's rank. I'd go to a toilet or do it when noone else was around

What would you do if your nose was actually running like a tap, while walking or on public transport for example, just let it drip down your face or use a tissue to blow your nose. I dislike blowing my nose in public but sometimes you have no option. Certainly not rake imo.

MoneyLaunderingQueen · 23/01/2025 19:30

A night out in Blackburn in the late 1990s. I am from London. Eye opening 😂

FattyLump · 23/01/2025 19:30

Cyclebabble · 23/01/2025 16:26

I remember starting work in London. I was raised in the Midlands just outside of Birmingham in an ethnically Indian family who had come from Malaysia. In those days the Midlands was industrial and I had seen men running out of work at the end of a shift. The bit that surprised me in London was that men and women in suits were running up the escalators in the tube to get to work- not to bet out of work, but running to get there. Then one day there am I doing the same thing without really realising it! Also the way people would cram themselves into an already crowded tube.

HA! I have worked in London my whole life and I have never seen anyone run to get to work. And I work in what's considered a very fun and glam industry... Maybe they run into work at Canary Wharf?

For me it was the explicit racism when I lived abroad. Things I hadn't heard come out of a white person's mouth for years - in fact things I had only ever heard come out of people who openly supported the national front or British movement. I'd be casually chatting away to someone and boom, there it was. My friend reckoned it took about two weeks for new arrivals to feel comfortable spouting their bigotry.

MarieDeGournay · 23/01/2025 19:30

Seeing a statue to Oliver Cromwell on my first visit to London. (I'm Irish).

Catsandcheese · 23/01/2025 19:31

@Gwenhwyfar No it was weird in that they wouldn't speak to me.
I was buying the car, not him.
Yes of course he was registering at the commune, but it took several visits to sort it all out., same with the bank account
We were also in Wallonia, had a lovely, lovely time for about 6 years, up to 2019.

Itiswhysofew · 23/01/2025 19:31

Sidebeforeself · 23/01/2025 16:38

In NY one December. Had a stinking cold. Apparently it’s not the done thing to sneeze or blow your nose in public. Twice I was told I was disgusting!

I knew a very middle class Irish man who would never sneeze nor blow his nose in company/in public😁

LiquoriceAllsorts2 · 23/01/2025 19:32

Chuchoter · 23/01/2025 16:25

Leeds.

What about Leeds?

FuzzyDonkey · 23/01/2025 19:32

Crushed23 · 23/01/2025 18:32

I live in the US now, having emigrated from the UK.

Biggest culture shock has been how much better customer service is here. It's night and day. And not just in places where customers tip (better customer service is often attributed to tipping culture).

At my bank, they sort things out for me there and then, in-branch. No sending me away and telling me to call a number (looking at you Barclays).

My morning coffee is to-go so there's no tipping but I still receive excellent service and a smile at 6:30am! In London, baristas would barely look at you, let alone make conversation or smile.

Generally, everyone here seems happier and more positive, despite their lives being qualitatively no better than those of people in the UK, in general.

It's culture driven, and I love it.

I can tell you don't live in NYC, then! I would say people are. less friendly here than in London as a whole.

Mittens67 · 23/01/2025 19:33

Foy19 · 23/01/2025 17:18

Just like the New Forest. Beautiful area ruined by very unpleasant locals.

Thanks for that. We aren’t all clones here in the Forest you know. We do have individual personalities.
Who ruined your experience of the New Forest and in what way?
Genuinely curious. Of course we have some arsewipes. Doesn’t everywhere?
Locals tend to moan about mega rich Londoners buying up property as second homes they barely visit.

millfree · 23/01/2025 19:34

EVHead · 23/01/2025 16:23

In France, not being able to go for a walk on my own, sit on a park bench and read a book, without some bloke following me/sitting next to me and chatting me up. Never happened in the UK!

Yeah I remember this, I went there to do research for my thesis and it was like I'd suddenly become Kate Moss, very disconcerting as I got zero attention in the UK unless out on a Saturday night, in Paris it was relentless.

mathanxiety · 23/01/2025 19:34

Snowfall11 · 23/01/2025 16:50

In NYC? Were you on the subway? Did you not cover your mouth and nose while sneezing? As a New Yorker, I agree that would be very rude.

Yes, the only problem about sneezing would be failure to sneeze into your elbow or sneezing into your hands. Excessively loud nose blowing would also attract attention, as would blowing your nose on your sleeve or just clearing your nostrils onto the ground or floor. But all the quieter nose blowing tones would be acceptable.

For me, the culture shock came when I arrived in the US during the Reagan presidency. The flags would have made Belfast blush.

TheNinkyNonkyIsATardis · 23/01/2025 19:34

Rural to urban: football culture. Where I grew up, the boys were all into football, but going to a match was a rare event due to distance, and it wasn't treated as the be all and end all.

Work culture: hanging out with friends of friends. Was asked "do you have a job?", because in their group more we're on the dole than not.

Gwenhwyfar · 23/01/2025 19:35

Catsandcheese · 23/01/2025 19:31

@Gwenhwyfar No it was weird in that they wouldn't speak to me.
I was buying the car, not him.
Yes of course he was registering at the commune, but it took several visits to sort it all out., same with the bank account
We were also in Wallonia, had a lovely, lovely time for about 6 years, up to 2019.

Ah yes, at the commune there might be some basic things you can do for someone else, but you'd need a signed procuration (just a note).

I didn't have good customer service in shops and cafes when I arrived at all. It's true that I committed some faux pas, but I was a young foreigner and they didn't have to be so awful about it.

Berlinlover · 23/01/2025 19:35

Gwenhwyfar · 23/01/2025 18:10

My colleague had to kiss the corpse of her husband's grandmother in the coffin. That was in Latin America.

Also, when her husband first came to the UK he would try to haggle in shops and wouldn't accept her word for it that it wasn't possible.

I kissed my mother in the coffin when I was ten, that’s normal here in Ireland.

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